JCUT 6090A or JCUT 6090B

[OregonCustom]

Butterknife- when you reprogrammed your e300 did you have to reset it somehow or just change the input?

"I looked at setting F0.0 (Frequency input mode). It was set to 4(External terminal). I changed it to 1(External input signal (0~10V / 0~20mA))."

Is this the answer to my cryptict question? "4" being the programmable inputs which from the factory change the speed.

I bought this unit also and had to gut it after a week of not being able to get it to run with the supplied software... fast reply from Mandy and crew but totally useless in fixing the problem. I have rewired with a Mach 3 controller and I'm down to reprogramming the freq. Drive.

[Butterknife]

OregonCustom,

I sent you a private message.

Butterknife

[wizzardworks]

Butterknife- when you reprogrammed your e300 did you have to reset it somehow or just change the input?

"I looked at setting F0.0 (Frequency input mode). It was set to 4(External terminal). I changed it to 1(External input signal (0~10V / 0~20mA))."

Is this the answer to my cryptict question? "4" being the programmable inputs which from the factory change the speed.

I bought this unit also and had to gut it after a week of not being able to get it to run with the supplied software... fast reply from Mandy and crew but totally useless in fixing the problem. I have rewired with a Mach 3 controller and I'm down to reprogramming the freq. Drive.

Oregon custom. I too had problems with the factory software and NO support, however eventually I stumbled on the set up by trial and error. I had bought the mach3 and parallel card as well as a 4 axis driver board. I had intended to pull out everything but the power supply and rewire everything. With the original software plus meshcam3 G-code and Rhino4 all talking to each other I am sticking with the NC-studio for the present. Out of curiosity did you make up a cable with a 15 pin D-sub on the machine end and a 25 pin D-sub for the printer port and use everything in the original control box just matching the pinouts or is it necessary to replace the drivers as well.
As I understand it Butternife changed the NC-studio out for WINcnc which he was familiar with. I don't know how much hardware he had to replace. Hopefully when he is satisfied with his installation he will post the details.
As far as speeds are concerned I set them in Meshcam3 before importing, however in the english manual for NC-studio they list the pinouts. The pinouts are also accessable from the screen if in manual mode. There is a youtube video by sale cnc showing setup proceedures for the 4 speed steps. The pinouts for mach3 are in the downloadable manual and in the manual that shipped on my install disks as well.
wizzardworks

[Butterknife]

I've seen people asking about JCut's wiring. I don't have the Mach wiring, but here's what I had for my NC Studio software.

1. Unhooked, but I think it was for a tool touch off switch.
2. Step signal for axis 1
3. Step signal for axis 2
4. Step signal for axis 3
5. X3 on the Sunfar inverter. It was set up for 3 outputs to control speed.
6. Z high limit switch
7. Y low limit switch
8. X low limit switch
9. Direction signal for axis 3
10. Direction signal for axis 2
11. Direction signal for axis 1
12. X1 on the Sunfar inverter. Another of the speed outputs.
13. X2 on the Sunfar inverter. Combinations of the 3 make up to 9 speeds.
14. 5v- for everything.
15. 5v+ for inverter, and steppers.

I can't promise yours will be the same, but this was mine.

I found mine by toning out the wiring.

I never ran my machine from NC Studio, I cut out the 15 pin plug from the box and added a 37 pin D-Sub connector for WinCNC. It is the controller I use at work and I am used to it.

I got a rotary axis with my machine. It was set up so that you moved Y to where you wanted it, then at the back of the machine, you unplugged it and plugged in the rotary axis in its place.

I added another drive for it and a seperate mic jack for it to plug into. That way I can use my X, Y, Z, and A at the same time.

Hope this helps,

Butterknife

[Butterknife]

When I took out the 15 pin connector for NC Studio, I cut the hole larger in the drive box and put in a 37 pin D-Sub breakout for WinCNC.

WinCNC has two cards, both of which has a 37 pin connector. One card is a PCI card that does the connection to the PC for the second card, the daughter card.

The PCI card connector can supply up to 16 inputs and 16 outputs as well as 5v+ and 5v ground.

The daughter card supplys several inputs and outputs too, but it also does step and direction for up to 6 axes. Another great thing about the daughter card is it can be made to allow digital to analog spindle speed control.

Here is a quick once over of the daughter card pin out.

Pins 1 -10 and pins 26 - 29 are inputs. They are for WinCNC to receive TTL signal.

Pins 22 - 25 are outputs. These are used to turn things like a spindle on and off.

Pins 17, 19, 31, 33, 35 and 37 are step pins. Each can be configured in WinCNC to supply step signal to an axis.

Pins 16, 18, 30, 32, 34, and 36 are direction pins. Each can be configured in WinCNC to supply direction signal to an axis.

With the proper hardware added to the daughter card (by WinCNC) and the feature enabled, pins 12 - 14 can be made to control the RPM of the inverter by use of an S# command. 'S18000' would spin the spindle at 18000 RPM.

Now, my wiring, all from the daughtercard...

1. X low limit
2. Y low limit
3. Z high limit
4. My inverter can be set up to output a signal when it reaches the requested RPM. I used that here. I do not allow my machine to move until this input comes on. That way it can not hit the material until it is up to speed.
5. Tool length measure switch
12. Ground signal from inverter
13. Output voltage from WinCNC to the inverter to control RPM.
14. 10 volt signal from the inverter.
20. 5v+ from WinCNC
21. 5v ground from WinCNC
22. Connected to an opto and turns on and off the spindle.
23. Connected to my crosshair laser for X, Y zeroing.
30. Direction for the rotary (A) axis.
31. Step for the A axis.
32. Direction for Z axis.
33. Step for Z axis.
34. Direction for Y axis.
35. Step for Y axis.
36. Direction for X axis.
37. Step for X axis.

I still have enough out outputs for two more devices and 9 more inputs. I also could add up to 2 more axes.

There are also the previously mentioned 16 inputs and 16 outputs available on the PCI connector if I ever needed them.

I hope this is useful to someone. It would be a shame to write all of this for no one's benefit.

Butterknife

[wizzardworks]

I've seen people asking about JCut's wiring. I don't have the Mach wiring, but here's what I had for my NC Studio software.

1. Unhooked, but I think it was for a tool touch off switch.
2. Step signal for axis 1
3. Step signal for axis 2
4. Step signal for axis 3
5. X3 on the Sunfar inverter. It was set up for 3 outputs to control speed.
6. Z high limit switch
7. Y low limit switch
8. X low limit switch
9. Direction signal for axis 3
10. Direction signal for axis 2
11. Direction signal for axis 1
12. X1 on the Sunfar inverter. Another of the speed outputs.
13. X2 on the Sunfar inverter. Combinations of the 3 make up to 9 speeds.
14. 5v- for everything.
15. 5v+ for inverter, and steppers.

I can't promise yours will be the same, but this was mine.

I found mine by toning out the wiring.

I never ran my machine from NC Studio, I cut out the 15 pin plug from the box and added a 37 pin D-Sub connector for WinCNC. It is the controller I use at work and I am used to it.

I got a rotary axis with my machine. It was set up so that you moved Y to where you wanted it, then at the back of the machine, you unplugged it and plugged in the rotary axis in its place.

I added another drive for it and a seperate mic jack for it to plug into. That way I can use my X, Y, Z, and A at the same time.

Hope this helps,

Butterknife

Butterknife, Thanks for the pinouts. I think I may mke up a 15 to 25 pin D-sub cable that can hook up to my spare computer with Mach3 so I could return to NC-studio with minimal fuss. I have been running the NC-studio about 140 hours so far. It seems that 30 hours may be the cleaning and lubrication interval for the guiderails. I started with molybdenum disulfide in an aerosol can but can't seem to get it on the back side of the guiderails. Currently I am useing chainsaw bar and chain lube. The machine runs really free with that. The speed picked up slightly and allowed the stepper motor on the X axis to overspeed. I will dial that down tomorrow between parts. Is there any way to clean and lube the Z-axis guiderails without taking the spindle motor mount off and have to realign it when reinstalling it. It runs a longer interval since it is limited in travel to the length of exposed cutter. The ballscrew and guiderail keep clean just from sitting on the same area.
wizzardworks

[joba]

Hi Butterknife,
I'd like to ask you, using clamps for fixing, what the maximum working area you can have with this Machine?

[Butterknife]

Joba,

If I clamp front and rear only, I can get at least 23.5" wide and at least 35" in length.

Butterknife

[garym1957]

I see some conversations about customs and fees?

I was on Skype with Mandy from JCUT last night and she had some trouble explaining the customs/broker thing to me. (Sounds a little like bail bonds).

Anyway, she suggested I get on this forum and ask some English-speaking people with experience in this to tell me what I'm supposed to do.

The money is in the bank. A wire transfer is pending. But I can't make the purchase until I'm sure I know what to do. Anyone remember the early part of 'Rain Man', where Tom Cruise has bought some sports cars overseas but they're hung in paperwork limbo? Yeah, I don't want that.

I live in North Texas... Dallas area. Evidentially, the free shipping JCUT offers takes it to a Seaport in California. I have to pay someone to truck it the rest of the way... Do I understand that I have to pay some guy to waive the paperwork through? Do I have to bribe some Russians? At what point does the Mafia get involved??

Seriously... If you KNOW how customs works, please give me the details. Who do I call and what do I do?

hates being a newbie.

[garym1957]

My broker advised me that I should have sent the computer, transformer, cutters and toolbox air freight and the machine crate by container. The advantage is that the seller can charge 1/2 the price for the air shipped parts and half for the crate shipped. This brings the import price below the $2000 limit and there is no customs paperwork or broker fees to pay. This will save $375 and a lot of delays.

This is the scary part. I do like the sound of "no customs paperwork" though.

[OregonCustom]

Mandy was great till the money was sent. Communication came to a crawl and my router got held in customs due the mfg declaration of value being $800.00. I ended up hiring a broker to get it out. When it was all said and done import fees, duty, broker fees and the FINE I was out another $700.00.

If you do get a machine from jcut, get it wired for Mach 3, the software they sent, nc studio etc. Was all pirated and wouldn't even run the machine. So another $1200 later with new contollers and software etc I'm finally doing test cuts this weekend.

So my $2700 machine is up to nearly $5000 been on site for 9 months and hasn't made me a dime yet.

I won't buy another thing from them. Nor would I recommend them to anyone. Proceed with extreme caution!

[wizzardworks]

I see some conversations about customs and fees?

I was on Skype with Mandy from JCUT last night and she had some trouble explaining the customs/broker thing to me. (Sounds a little like bail bonds).

Anyway, she suggested I get on this forum and ask some English-speaking people with experience in this to tell me what I'm supposed to do.

The money is in the bank. A wire transfer is pending. But I can't make the purchase until I'm sure I know what to do. Anyone remember the early part of 'Rain Man', where Tom Cruise has bought some sports cars overseas but they're hung in paperwork limbo? Yeah, I don't want that.

I live in North Texas... Dallas area. Evidentially, the free shipping JCUT offers takes it to a Seaport in California. I have to pay someone to truck it the rest of the way... Do I understand that I have to pay some guy to waive the paperwork through? Do I have to bribe some Russians? At what point does the Mafia get involved??

Seriously... If you KNOW how customs works, please give me the details. Who do I call and what do I do?

hates being a newbie.

Garyum1957, Been there done that. Since 911 there has been an exponential growth in paperwork. The customs people do not service individuals only brokers. They get involved at a value of $2000. Below that it is just like anything else from China. My J-cut representative seemed th think she could airfreight the tool kit and small items and container the rest splitting the salles price in two to be under the customs level. Too late for me I ended up paying $700. This comes from the customs duty, brokers fee, dock services from container to wearhouse, dock service from warehouse to the freight company, the freight (new york to norfolk va) the unloading fee at the customs wearhouse, inspection fee, trucking to the freight company wearhouse and loading in my truck for the last 60 miles. You will get several things from J-cut for your paperwork. You need to know the company which trucked your shipment from Jinan to Hong Kong, then you need to know the packer (the person who put your stuff in a container), the number of the container, and a few minor details. This info goes to the broker (located in the city where you will take posession of your machine). Then you get to do picture ID, birthday, where you were born , the usual suspects. There were 19 forms to sign to be sent to assorted places which were filled out by the broker. The paper work can be done in 3 or 4 days, mine took 3 weeks and must be complete before the ship arrives or complications arise.
One thing you might do is specify the 2.2 Kw spindle motor which comes with ER20 collets for 1/2" shank bits. You can also use smaller bits with the smaller collet. You will also need a PC to run the machine. I used an older computer (733 Mhz , 384 Mb of ram) and it ran fine. My G-gode is about 430,000 lines and there were no problems until the power supply on the computer went bad.
wizzardworks