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Stefany,
Please keep us posted on your progress, I would enjoy seeing your camera.
Jeff...
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Well, I don't intent to start making hundreds of parts with this machine, it will be on a very small scale in terms of quantity it is really about design and very small proto or prod run...and if it gets with higher quantity then I will deal with a shop that has a big ass one! (CNC).Originally Posted by jalessi
I will probably drop by eventually at LMS and I guess I will go from there...
Stefany
Last edited by neferstefany; 08-07-2009 at 05:27 PM. Reason: typo
Stefany,
Please keep us posted on your progress, I would enjoy seeing your camera.
Jeff...
Patience and perseverance have a magical effect before which difficulties disappear and obstacles vanish.
I could certainly do that ! ;O)
Take care!
Stefany
welcome aboard Stefany
The opinions expressed in this post are my own. -Les opinions exprimé dans ce messages sont les mienne
i have a first gen kx1. some issues with it, but they are generally respoved on the gen 2 (whats available now). if the parts you need fit on the table its probably a perfect choice.
i will contradict the comment about keeping the feed slow on this machine. it works best the opposite. you want to take shallow cuts at the maximum feed the tool maker recomends. so instead of 1/4" deep x 1/4" diameter at 10ipm, you want to go 1/16" deep at 40ipm. the reason is it "loads" the head and column, and chatters less. same goes for edge milling. you want to go full depth, but very light on the sides. it also seems to make more efficient use uf the spindle power. i know alot of people will tell you the exact opposite, but they likely have never used this machine. i actually milled hardened steel with it this morning at 60ipm! cuts stianless as well, though you need to be very precise with the feeds and speeds and drown it in coolant.
anyhow, novakon in toronto also sells a variation of the kx1 as well. i think their price is a bit cheaper then LMS, and they had a free shipping offer at one point. (www.novakon.net).
im also curious about your camera. i just finished a music video in LA using a prototype stereoscopic 1080p system. i might be interested in working with you on your product if its aimed at "cinema quality".
Hi there,i have a first gen kx1. some issues with it, but they are generally respoved on the gen 2 (whats available now). if the parts you need fit on the table its probably a perfect choice.
i will contradict the comment about keeping the feed slow on this machine. it works best the opposite. you want to take shallow cuts at the maximum feed the tool maker recomends. so instead of 1/4" deep x 1/4" diameter at 10ipm, you want to go 1/16" deep at 40ipm. the reason is it "loads" the head and column, and chatters less. same goes for edge milling. you want to go full depth, but very light on the sides. it also seems to make more efficient use uf the spindle power. i know alot of people will tell you the exact opposite, but they likely have never used this machine
anyhow, novakon in toronto also sells a variation of the kx1 as well. i think their price is a bit cheaper then LMS, and they had a free shipping offer at one point. (www.novakon.net).
im also curious about your camera. i just finished a music video in LA using a prototype stereoscopic 1080p system. i might be interested in working with you on your product if its aimed at "cinema quality".
Well, thanks the tips, I will soon get the machine and be in a better position to see it for myself... As for the camera, the whole thing is certainly aimed at Cinema Quality, but for the sake of the development of the product, I have to deal with 1080p CCDs that is more like broadcast quality. I will see in time, what CCD I could use to get the Cinema Quality that I am looking for. And I would be interested to know a bit more about what you do and you, so I could see if we could do some stuff together... ;o)
Thanks again,
Stefany
i do feature film vfx mostly. music video was/is mostly a test of technology. im not sure what im allowed to talk about on the stereo system, so i wont say much. its an interesting system that gave us alot of headaches being beta and all. rig was beta, ccd was beta, capture software beta, and encoding software beta. oh, and we had a beta technocrane with mocap that didnt work. yay!
anyhow, we plan on doing more films with 3d soon, and we are also designing an HDMI portable recording system among other things.
im waiting for propper shop space to really make use of the kx1, and will be getting a larger mill (bf25) for conversion to cnc later this year.
Stephany,
Why not look into a cnc'ed Taig with a Gecko G540 setup. It would get you going quickly and seems to be adequate for your needs. You would be up and running for about 2K including 4th axis.
bob
can a taig do this:
dont let the x1 name fool you, its in a whole different class than the taig. much more capable. plus, knowing what shes working on, the narrow table and shallow Y spindle to column clearance will be a big limitation.
Well,
Here is what I am designing in a nutshell:
1- Either, Dual Custom CCDs or Dual Camera Link or Dual SDI-3G (1080p60) inputs
2- 2x HDMI Outputs for Instant Viewing for each channel
3- 1x HDMI output for Composite image viewing 1080p60 (Anaglyph or LCD Shutter)
4- 2x SDI-3G Outputs
5- 1x PCI Epress x8 over cable
6- USB, RS-232/RS-422/RS-485
7- 2x Internal SATA for a maximum of 1TBytes internal storage
8- Small HD format ThouchScreen LCD to control the Unit
9- Maybe an optional 10GigOptical Link (still thinking about it)
10- Internaly, the unit will debayer any CCD info for both channels at 30frames/sec per channel, color correct them, and join in a 1080p60 stream.
11- Later on, it will be compressed and stored for later download.
The beauty of it, is that you can use any capture board that supports SDI-3G (AJA AKONA) and software that support 3D, FinalCut with Plug-in for exemple.
Since there is a lot of work to this project, it will be done in phases. Like the compression and storage, will be done later. The PCIe Driver will also be done later...
I'd be really interested to know more about you (your name would be great and where you are ?)
Cheer!
Stefany
At this point, on this post, are you promoting my choice or his ?... like I said all the names looks the same to me, so I am a bit confuse here!can a taig do this:
dont let the x1 name fool you, its in a whole different class than the taig. much more capable. plus, knowing what shes working on, the narrow table and shallow Y spindle to column clearance will be a big limitation.
Stefany
hehe, sorry, im promoting the "kx1" type machines like novakon and little machine shop sell. that is whats in the photo - which milled a 55hrc vise with no complaints at 60ipm.
alot of people here negate the kx1 because they think its just a sieg x1 turned cnc. its not at all. the table and base are similar to the super x1 but have tapered gibs. the column is almost 2x the size and weight. the head is also bigger and stronger than the x1. the result is a reasonable amount of rigidity. i dont recoment hard milling steel vises, it was just meant to emphasize that the kx1 is alot more machine than the sieg x1 or taig.
anyhow. my name is terence, and im in toronto at the moment. your camera sounds interesting. a few things to note however
- noone likes hard disks for portable systems, too high a failure rate, even in raid 1. repalce them with sata SSD and youll probably be fine. doesnt require a design change obviously, however you may end up only requiring one disk if the compression is good. ours was 50mB/s per channel, which could barely make it on some of the newer ssd's. bieng a big tethered system though, we just used a raid 5 array.
- using a non debayered stream saves alot of space and bandwidth. pure raw uncompressed 12 bit at 24 frames per second is only 71mB/s, and could like have both streams be stored on modern ssd and meet the typical 10 minute shoot requirements at 90gB. for studio shoots it can be tethered to a raid 5 brick and get hours of run time. then you just code a piece of pc software to inflate it to a common format for edit. letting the comp demosaic also allows better overscan possibilities, since you cant simply use a finer grain and scan at 4k like you do with film. the consumer market will be less concerned with this stuff and happily take any compression better than hdv, but if you want to go up against si2k and red for feature films, this will be a big help.
the rest of my suggestions would be basic optics, like as large a sensor as possible, 12or 14 bit fidelity etc etc... (im sure most of thats obvious).
good luck. ill probably be in LA at some point in the next month. if you have something to show, i can set you up with a meeting with our producer.
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