G-10 Fanuc Style ???

[Ox1]

The basic list on CamSoft shows:

"G10 A linear feedrate controlled move with a decelerated stop"

Not sure if I would be needing this? We are redooing an older machine with fine pitch screws, so accell/decell prolly aint that bigga deal?

However - I hope to have the equiv of Fanuc G10 and the only thing that I find in the generic list looks to be close is the G54 - G59, but those are values set in the register. As well I assume that there are many more fixture offsets available than just those 6?


Is there a G code that does this already that I am not seeing? If so - I ass u me that we can simply recode the G values on these macros?


If there is NOT an equiv code already in the line-up, someone has one for it somewhere eh?


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

[James L]

What model is your controller? G10 varies slightly from one to the next. As far as your g54-g59, you have quite a few more to work with and they can be reached using g54.1 p1-48 (where p is the additional offset) and can also be used the same way with g55.1 through g59.1. Other fanuc based machines offer different work offsets.

[Ox1]

Are we on the same page?

We are lookin' to doo a CamSoft Pro retro currently and I am wanting a Fanuc style G10 "Zero Shift" type macro to be able to use.

I am not asking about a Fanuc control.



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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

[Karl_T]

Fanuc lathes often use G10 for work offset and call it zero offest because you only change Z. Camsoft default .CBK does the same thing in G54 to G59 so you got more offsets if you need them. Look at the parameter screen you can change the offsets there.

Lets look under the hood to see how its done:


OFFSET 0
-----G52
OFFSET 0
-----G53
OFFSET 1
-----G54
OFFSET 2
-----G55
OFFSET 3
-----G56
OFFSET 4
-----G57
OFFSET 5
-----G58
OFFSET 6
-----G59

This is the Gcodes in your Gcode.fill

Here's the OFFSET command

OFFSET
This command provides a way to invoke or add fixture offsets, typically G54 through G59. Valid commands are OFFSET 1 through 6. (OFFSET 1 refers to G54, OFFSET 2 refers to G55, etc.) To turn off the offsets, enter 0 for the offset number. Optionally, there are access parameters after specifying the first parameter as the offset number. There is one optional access parameter for each axis letter. These optional access parameters allow you to force new values into the tool parameter screen for fixture offsets. If you leave these optional parameters off, the controller will switch to the new offset. If the optional parameters are given for each axis, the control will only force these new values into the tool parameter screen rather than setting the offset for G54 through G59. The example below forces .25 into axes 1-6 using offset 1.
EXAMPLE: OFFSET 1;.25;.25;.25;.25;.25;.25



If you don't like the default Camsoft method, change it. here's a G10 for one offset


OFFSET 1
-----G10

Just change your gcode file.

Karl

[Ox1]

I did not follow most of that.

I understand the G54 - G59 offsets.

But we are updating a 4 axis HMC with the addition of a 5th axis. Tombestones would be the norm. 6 offsets is only a good start.

The best part of G10 IMO is the point that the offset is in the prog. Not in a seperate file where it can be forgotten about. But the part of having an unlimited amount of offsets (in reality) is bonus.

Not following eny of the code that you put up there - but it doesn't sound to me like there is a seperate fixture offset list that goes to ~say~ 100 offsets? Or maybe a whole library of fixture offset files like on my MDSI unit?

Hmmmm, Would you have been stating in the one example the option of changing the G54 (or other) value via a G10 param change mid cycle like you can a Fanuc? I have not had application to doo this to date, but I doo understand that it is possible on some params enyhow. Whether or not on the G54 etc lines - I am not sure?

Either way - G10 on the CamSoft is not a "shift" command enyway. Is there a nother G command that equals the application?

And yes - I use G10 on my lathes only to date - as I only have Fanucs on lathes - and most all my lathes have Fanucs. However I also know HMC guys that use it.


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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

[Karl_T]

Originally Posted by Ox1 I did not follow most of that. Ox

Sorry, i was talking about how to custom program your Camsoft installation. The beauty of camsoft is you can set it up just as you want.

OK, I think you want to

G10 X1 Y2 Z3 A4 and set your offsets to 1, 2, 3, 4 in your gcode. Just change your G10 in gcode.fil to

OFFSET 1;x;y;z;a
--------G10


Karl

[Ox1]

OK - at this point I will ass u me that "Yes - I will be able to doo what I want - if we config it that way" and will also ass u me that the parts above that I don't understand at this time - will make sence when we git that far.

I'm not at the point of asking "How to" yet. Just "Can I".



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Think Snow Eh!
Ox

[Karl_T]

You got it. Camsoft is certainly confusing at first, there's just so much to learn. And one little thing can hang you up for a day. My suggestion: RTM, RTM, RTM (Read the manual) its all in there.

Karl