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    Correct Feedrates??

    I'm running a 3-axis homemade cnc machine with 3 xylotex 23H276-28-4B motors in it. My main type of material I am cutting is .75"-1.50" MDF Board. For example, most of my projects are 12"x19"x 0.75" thick. I import my design into Cut3D and that produces my Gcode. I have my feedrate set at 75 ipm and my plunge rate at 75 ipm spindle speed of 20,000 and am cutting with a 1/4" dia square bit in Cut3D, but when I run it on Mach 3 it almost takes an entire day just to cut out my design. Any solutions that can fix my issue? I believe its the feedrate that's my problem but should the spindle speed be set at a certain speed while in Mach 3? any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

    Thanks to everyone in advance!

    Marty


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    Can you post a pic of what you're making?

    How fast can your machine go, and how much power does the spindle have? How deep are you cutting per pass?

    You should be able to go up to at least 200ipm, and lower the rpm to 15,000 or less. Lower rpm's will keep your tools sharp longer.
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    My cutting depth is .375" using a 1/4" router bit but im actually gonna downsize to 1/8" to have a better finish. My stopover is .0625 but once again thinking about cutting that width in half for a better finish. As far as how fast it can go I don't know how to check for that im completely clueless. I think I remember reading that the max speed for the motors was 21,000 rims. My goal would be for the Cnc machine to cut this project in 2-3 hours less time would be great as well. Also the project pictured is. 75" thick.


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    Draw those parts in 2D, and use a 2D CAM program, and they'll cut in 1/10 the time. Cut 3D and Sketchup are the wrong tools for the job.
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    Any suggestions on a 2D program that will work either fairly cheap or free?


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    Some of the parts show in the picture are they considered 2D or 3D. I would of considered them 3D.


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    CamBam has a free version. Or Cut 2D.

    Generally, those are considered 2.5D.

    3D parts require all 3 axis moving at the same time. For your parts, the Z just needs to move to the correct depth, then all the cutting can be done with X and Y moves.
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    Thanks you've been a great help, any suggestions on the federate, plunge rate and spindle speed for the 2d programs?


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    I usually cut MDF at 150ipm and around 12,000 rpm. If you're machine is capable of it, you can cut much faster.

    On our machine at work, we cut at about 1,000 ipm and 16,000 rpm, with a 15HP spindle.
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    The type of router im using is a rotozip rz20 and I believe it can run at 30,000 rpm. Is there a special type of equation that is used to determine the speeds?


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    Yes. Tool manufacturers will give you a recommended chip load range. You can use the chip load to determine rpm and feedrate.
    Here's the chart for cutting MDF with tools from Onsrud.
    MDF Cutting Data and Chipload Chart by Onsrud Cutter | | LMT Onsrud

    Keep in mind that with a low power spindle like the RotoZIP, you may not be able to attain the recommended chip load.

    For cutting MDF, a general rule of thumb is to cut as fast as possible, while maintaining acceptable cut quality. This will usually give you the longest tool life.
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    Awesome, you've been a savior for me. Ill let you know how it goes tomorrow


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