CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills


Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills Discuss Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #37   Ban this user!
Old 02-28-2008, 10:24 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George I want a computer on it so i can run it with mach3.
I don't know any commands on the Boss control. The only thing i know is how to move the 3 axis.
Hope I can put in the code you gave me.
How can I turn up and down the feedrate?

Thanks,
Bart
Reply With Quote

  #38   Ban this user!
Old 02-28-2008, 11:15 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George,
I've just measured the Amps while stepping the Z-axis.
It reads 7.8A when I do nothing. When I do a little step it reads 7.75 a really short time. When i do a larger step 0.1 it reads around 7A for a second.
But when I hold it in JOG position the value is going down and when the motor stalls (oscillates) it reads 5.14A. I think that's really low but I don't know what is allowed.
I also typed the code exacly as you wrote it in your post. While the axis was moving I turned the feedrate but I could turn it to the highest position and the motor didn't stall.

Bart
Reply With Quote

  #39  
Old 02-28-2008, 01:43 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

Glad you found the feedrate pot. This proves that it can move slow but not rapid.
This is a funny system. When in rapid the counter EMF generated in the motor impedes the current and on a good motor it will drop to just more than 2 amps. At the same time the voltage goes up to 60 V.
Keep typing the mini program in changing direction (+/-) and the feed rate go up by a value of 50. 150 is 15 IPM, 200 is 20 IPM etc.
Lets see how fast it can go before it stalls.
What is the AC voltage at T2, the transformer in the back, top, 3rd and 6th wires from the left?

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #40   Ban this user!
Old 03-01-2008, 12:25 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George,
I tried to speed up the IPM's with the mini program and with the feedrate pot completely open.
Is there a maximum of IPM's? I tried it up to program G91G1 Z-1.0F5000
so that should be 500IPM but I had the idea after a certain value it didn't go faster anymore? Is that right? I couldn't get him that far he would stall, so in one way that's a good sign I guess.

Thanks,
Bart
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #41  
Old 03-01-2008, 01:44 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

I believe the maximum is 200IPM. Maybe it needed to be freed up?
Will it now work in rapid?

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #42   Ban this user!
Old 03-01-2008, 01:55 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George,
At 200IPM it worked fine. What do you mean with freed up? I don't understand that word, sorry!
It still doesn't work in rapid, but then it moves way faster.

Bart
Reply With Quote

  #43  
Old 03-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

There is a possibility that there may be a problem with the ZCK clock card but that would effect all 3 axis.
Without being there, it is hard to figure out.
Freed up means that working it, it may work with less friction.

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #44   Ban this user!
Old 03-02-2008, 08:11 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George,
I already thought it could be because off too much friction. When I bought the machine they put a lot off grease on all blank steel to provide it from resting while shipping the machine to the Netherlands. I took that off the spindle before trying it but maybe not enough. I already tried too wipe it clean with PTFE spray but that didn't worked. Do you have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Bart
Reply With Quote

  #45  
Old 03-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

I have had cases where people used the wrong oil but I flushed the ball screw and quill with Kerosene, and then re-oiled it. On your side of the pond, maybe try naphtha? Some solvent that will flush anything out.

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #46   Ban this user!
Old 03-03-2008, 12:18 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 84
bartL is on a distinguished road

George,

What exactly do you mean with the ball screw? I know what usual ball screws are but I don't think you meant those ones.
Maybe I should try to clean it with Kerosene, but what exactly should I clean?
The trapezium thread? Or the quill? Or maybe something else?

Thanks,
Bart
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
X Axis movement when spindle is on FFAMN Servo Motors and Drives 3 12-24-2007 09:27 AM
Spindle amplifier control problems (O-M Series)?! cward Fanuc 4 09-14-2007 10:34 AM
BP Series I axis problems jho5820705 Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills 26 10-17-2006 08:03 PM
Bp Series 1 Cnc - Z Axis Problems MDA40 Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills 15 02-12-2005 09:38 AM
stationary spindle with X,Y,Z movement KBW Haas Mills 2 02-10-2004 07:42 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:08 AM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361