CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills


Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills Discuss Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #13   Ban this user!
Old 02-05-2007, 11:43 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: US
Posts: 93
inertialabs is on a distinguished road

Wow that sounds like a big bummer, I have always found it is extremely hard to get all of the magic black smoke back into the circuits after you let it out. I sure would appreciate the break down on setting the parameters for the machine. As I said before it seems like the next logical step to try before I get into replacing things.

My email is

reason.bradley@gmail.com

Thank you

--
Reason Bradley
reason.bradley@gmail.com
415-596-3946
Reply With Quote

  #14   Ban this user!
Old 02-05-2007, 11:52 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: US
Posts: 93
inertialabs is on a distinguished road

I appreciate your advise here, I just got back to Chip Sweeper about this as well. I don't want to simultaneously ask for the parameters from both of you but it sounds like you two are in contact with each other so I will thank you both and watch for an email.

Thanks again

Reason
Reply With Quote

  #15  
Old 02-06-2007, 12:09 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

Attached should be a note I received from Bridgeport in 1996 which lists the parameters Bridgeport was concerned with and what they are and do.
Use the list at your own peril.

George
Attached Files
File Type: pdf Siemens spindle par.pdf‎ (59.1 KB, 56 views)
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #16   Ban this user!
Old 02-08-2007, 10:52 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: US
Posts: 93
inertialabs is on a distinguished road

Thanks for the parameters, I fired up the machine and I went into the parameter section and all of the parameters seemed to be very different than what was on the sheet, I am curious as to model machine you have ?
Reply With Quote

  #17  
Old 02-08-2007, 08:29 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

These are NOT the parameters in the BMDC (bmdcprms.sys). These are in the spindle drive. The one with the LCD display and the P and + and - keys inside the electrical cabinet.
I do not have a machine. I have worked on Bridgeports for 25 years. This sheet came from my stash of notes.

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #18   Ban this user!
Old 02-08-2007, 09:28 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: US
Posts: 93
inertialabs is on a distinguished road

Ok I am a rookie, I get it now.

The parameter page you sent me makes allot more sense now, I went into the cabinet turned on the machine and pushed the P button and scrolled to the PAR 16 and logged the setting which was P 016.1 Then I pushed the + Key and increased the # to P 016.6 and gave a command of 3K RPM and the spindle spun up with no alarm. Then I tried 6 K and it worked perfectly. So I backed the # down to P 016.3 and tried it all over and it still worked perfectly. Would you recommend reducing the # until it fails and then increase it 1 digit or do you have some recommended method of calibration ?

Thanks a million George

I feel like I am getting closer to having a machine that runs

Reason
Reply With Quote

  #19  
Old 02-08-2007, 10:59 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

I do not have that list with me so I do not know what those parameters do. But, they were figured out by an engineer. We never played with them except to change a machine from 4000 RPM to 6000 rpm and then we had the changes given to us. The only parameter we played with was that for the "drift" or balance. This so with an M19 the spindle would be stationary. Any changes you make are temporary unless you tell the drive to store them.

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #20   Ban this user!
Old 02-09-2007, 11:01 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: US
Posts: 93
inertialabs is on a distinguished road

Well I guess the other approach is to put a real heavy tool into the spindle and just run the thin and see how it does.

From what you are telling me I now need to figure out how to get the new parameter to stay in the controller. It is starting to look like I am going to need another manual for the Siemens drive end of this thing, I will look into that today.

George, Let me just say thank you again for you insight and help here I really appreciate it .

Reason
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #21  
Old 02-09-2007, 06:43 PM
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 2,856
machintek is on a distinguished road

Clarification. Just changing a spindle parameter will be lost when it is powered down. I believe the procedure includes Parameter 52 and 54. One opens the parameter file, one instructs the drive to write and save. Then back to 52 and close it. If my memory serves me correctly!

George
__________________
(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Wiring Woes..... Normsthename General Electronics Discussion 54 01-03-2007 03:38 PM
Any clues on my LPT woes? Greolt Machines running Mach Software 10 10-16-2006 01:51 AM
THK HSR35 woes Corvus corax Linear and Rotary Motion 5 11-07-2005 08:14 PM
Woes of a newbie posix Stepper Motors and Drives 3 04-13-2005 10:54 AM
Z axis woes yukonho DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 48 02-29-2004 12:02 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:56 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691 692 693 694 695 696 697 698 699 700 701 702 703 704 705 706 707 708 709 710