CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills


Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills Discuss Bridgeport and Hardinge Mills here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2006, 04:21 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 159
peter.blais is on a distinguished road
Looking for info or manuals for old bijur lube... on BP series 1

Hi, My BP series one has an old bijur lube setup on it. Its mostly electronic with a pull up manual lube knob. I searched all over bijur's website but didn't find much, can anybody tell me what knobs / adjustment / whatever there is to this thing?

I can't tell if it does anything automatically or not, I don't dare just leave it for a week and see if it goes down,and I can't hear it doing anything over my rotary converter.

I'd like to find the info so I can wire this thing up or sort it out and be able to use it properly other then just pulling the manual lube all the time. It does flow lube correctly to all the different lube points when you do that though.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2006, 07:24 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: U.S.A.
Age: 40
Posts: 160
snakebit95 is on a distinguished road

Can you post a photo of it? That might help members determine what you have.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 08-27-2006, 12:12 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 1,495
keebler303 is on a distinguished road

if you have one similar to mine then it is run by a small electric motor. Whenever the spindle is running, the motor is running. It is geared really low and it pumps by slowly lifting the plunger and then letting it fall. If the motor runs then you should be good. How do you know its flowing oil correctly? Have you taken the thing apart to get to all the meters? If so, and it all works, you are lucky. Most have been clogged beyond repair.

Matt
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2006, 12:47 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 159
peter.blais is on a distinguished road

If I pump it a few times manually in a short time I can visually inspect and see the way lube. It is evident on the quill, Y axis, you have to get pretty crafty with a mirror and a flashlight but it definantly does lube the x and the screws.

I don't think it runs in that case- I have never once seen the plunger lift on its own. I guess I"ll have to take a peek and see if its hooked up to power correctly and such inside the case. I do know the low lube alarm is just jumpered.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5  
Old 08-28-2006, 12:52 AM
widgitmaster's Avatar
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: USA
Age: 60
Posts: 2,348
widgitmaster is on a distinguished road

http://devcocorp.com/american/bijur....FQRYVAod0j_wjQ
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 08-31-2006, 03:23 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 159
peter.blais is on a distinguished road

Ok, pretty much seem to have this thing figured out. It IS running, I just didn't realize how slow the cycle times are on these things until I looked at the link above. Only thing I wish is that it had some sort of manual lube so I could give things a squirt before I start moving things around for the first time of the day. I've just started pulling it up as far as it'll go depending on where it is in the stroke and then letting the machine sit powered up for a bit before moving it.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7  
Old 08-31-2006, 03:55 AM
*Registered*
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 1,628
lakeside is on a distinguished road

You should not have to do this. As long as you run your machine and on a regular schedule I would not worry about it Just pull it twice a day if it make you happy. You will just be wiping up more oil. As I always say "never pour, drip or use anymore oil, then you are willing to wipe up. . You also don't need to pull it up as far as it goes. The system has lines full of oil it not a true pressurized system, more of a drip type system
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8  
Old 08-31-2006, 04:32 AM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,395
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

First time seeing this post. MSC has a parts list for Bridgeports in the back of the BIG BOOK. Go to www.mscdirect.com to get one.

You can also call Hardinge because they saved Bridgeport by buying them out, Thank God for that.
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 09-06-2006, 03:14 AM
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 159
peter.blais is on a distinguished road

Yea, well, it took a lot of work on college student / garage tig welder wages to save up and buy this thing, and the ways are as-new... So i'm a little paranoid about keeping them that way. haha

The fact that the rotary converter is so noisey (I really do need to get an inverter for the spindle and use that converter as a paper weight) and the cycle time is so slow for the lube, not knowing what was going on with it was driving me crazy.

That, and the fact that I grew up racing shifter karts, and then raced open wheel cars- Things where you spent 10x as much time wrenching then using... The concept that there isn't a billion hours of maintance to be done is bugging the hell out of me. I feel like its going to explode into a million pieces when I turn my back on it.

I did a bunch of machining in school, I'm getting my M.E. degree, but we never had to do any maintance, all we did was sweep up our chips.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #10   Ban this user!
Old 09-06-2006, 12:38 PM
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: canada
Posts: 85
sdeering is on a distinguished road

I have a boss5.
I had problems with my pump. No bigey. It pushed out the check ball holder for the pump. I checked all the lube points 1/2 were not getting oil. I cleaned all of them. I never could get the top 3 points working correctly with the rest of the system. I removed them from the auto system. I oil them manually now.
As far as the original pump. You can give it a shot manually as long as it is at the bottom or part way down the travel of stroke. If its at the top the stroke you will have to wait for the motor to move it down.
Do check all of the points for oil. The only way to do this properly is to disassemble clean and hook the oiler up to the parts as they sit on the floor. Each meter valve has its own filter I should have bought new ones but I just cleaned the filters and used lots of shop air to remove any debris.
Hope this helps
Stephen
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #11   Ban this user!
Old 09-06-2006, 06:51 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: England
Posts: 195
creep_pea is on a distinguished road

How do you get at the meters under the table, do you just undo the ball screw on the rigth hand side then slide the table across till you can get at them or does the table have to be supported or something.

Cheers

Chris
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #12   Ban this user!
Old 09-07-2006, 06:32 AM
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: U.S.A.
Age: 40
Posts: 160
snakebit95 is on a distinguished road

Just as you mentioned......remove the nut on the X ballscrew and slide the table. Be carefull not to pull the table off the machine!! It is HEAVY!!!
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:42 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353