Pocket / fill

[kghinsr]

Hi All
I just found this forum a few days ago and finally had time to go thru it.
I looks fantastic.

I have been using Bobcad since V18.
with that said

I purchased V22 a number of months ago and found out that the program
is nothing like V18 - V21. They have removed all the things I bought the software for. :-(

Spent 2+ hrs looking for the pocket/fill program and couldn't find it.
does anyone know where it is and how to work it?????

thank you for your help

ken

[neilw20]

My opinion only.
I hated the way everything was done. Not intuitive with stuff everywhere.
Most other CAM packages are the same. 5hit everywhere. (tricked their dumb filter)!
Your lost function(s) has probably got a new name, or is it like ACAD dumping IGES format years ago, but leaving mention of it in the help. Grumble..
PCB layout software has a habit of making good things go away too.
I'm going to learn lisp. I think that's easier than some weird interface concept, by a programmer who has never run a CNC in anger before.

[The One]

The "Pocket Fill" function? You got me on that one. I have used and supported Version 17 to current and can't recall that particular function.

If you are talking about the "Pocket" function, it is in a new location.

You will need to access the CAM Tree.
Right Click on Milling Stock and Pocket will appear under the 2X Mill options in the pop-up menu.
When you click on it, it will be added to the Tree.
You can the Right click on the Pocket option and choose Edit in the pop-up. This will provide you with access to the Parameters for the Pocket. Edit them to your liking and click OK.
Then right click on Geometry and choose Re-select.
Select the geometry you want to use then right click and choose OK.
Now you can compute the toolpath from the Right click menu of the Pocket item in the tree.

Regards

[kghinsr]

thank you
I went to another computer and found V20 went right to it and did what I needed to do BUT I still needed to know how to do it in V22.
I will try to do what you said and get it to work.
The interesting part of this is I sent the info to Tech support and have yet to get back to me. And YES i'm paid till next year.
maybe they can't find it either :-)

thanks again

ken

[kghinsr]

Hi all
I finally had time to go to the cam tree and found the pocket function.
with that said it still won't work or recognize the item selected.
talked with Bobcad and they ( two days later ) said the same thing
as THE ONE did in the above post.
Still doesn't work. :-(
OH WELL
drew it out long hand
Had a conversation with a bobcad salesman a few days ago.
It would appear that either everyone has jumped ship or they have had
a complete personnel change. I told the fellow I bought V22 with the idea
that it was making V21 better not a complete new program. The items
I needed aren't their anymore. And I explained it to him.
He said tech support could help and I explained to him its no help if it
takes two plus days to respond.
Sorry to vent but I'm done with Bobcad
ken

[Malish]

Ken,

The change from V22 to from earlier versions is quite significant, so you will need to review the help files and do some examples to see how things work in the new version. I have version 20 as well as 22 installed on my PC, and I use them both depending on what I am doing. A bunch of people on here reccomended going to one of their training classes to help users get over the learning hump with the new version, I have no done so yet, but I think this is a great idea and plan to attend next time it comes around.

Also just becasue you can't find something you used to be able to do, doesn't mean the software won't do it, it just means you don't know how to do it.

[kghinsr]

Malish

I have V22 as well as V21, V20, V18
You mention going to a training session. I find that coming up with $750 to be trained in something they can't provide Tech support for isn't any help.
And yes I still use V21. I also find it interesting that Bobcad is now selling a milling machine which they recomend V21 for operation. The Pocket function
is only one of the many changes in V22.
Have a great day and I don't really care what Bobcad is doing these days.
hope they do well and It won't be with any help from me anymore
ken

[ImanCarrot]

it just means you don't know how to do it.

ie: costing you more hours and thus money to learn it?

Why the hell would anyone want that?

Profit margins are slivery thin as it is. Maybe I'm missing something... or not?

If it works don't fu*king fix it.

[Malish]

Generally you get out of something what you put into it. You see it all the time; a company will spend thousands of dollars for a new machine, but not spend anything to train the operator. Without spending time to learn the new software and how it operates you will never derive any benefits from upgrading to it. That’s not to say you could just go one using version 18 forever, you can, that’s your choice. Just like you could keep using a hand drill to drill holes in parts after you layout the holes locations with a ruler and center punch, instead of learning how to use the drill cycle on a milling machine. It’s all about looking at the larger picture.

I wanted to upgrade to version 22 because after doing a few basic things in the demo I saw the potential to save money over the long run. The way the code is now feature driven, it makes changes are very easy. Don’t have a 5/8” end mill because it broke, just pull up the file, change it to use a ½” end mill and re-post. Not only saves money in that you don’t need to buy a new 5/8 end mill, but it saves time, and time is money!

[kghinsr]

I guess I was told it was an upgrade not a NEW program
Thanks everyone for your help and yes time is money
which since the depression hit I've had no shop work.
so money is VERY thin
ken

[ImanCarrot]

Innovation and invention is incredibly important, I take your point.

However, it costs money to develop ideas to production. If something works (and I do recognise the ruler and centre punch anology) why fix it?

My old machine here uses DOS (honest)- it works and the PC I'm writing this on uses XP- XP falls over at least twice per day. DOS don't.

I make extremely good product using an old PC with DOS- there's no "Illegal exception error", no "Unhandled exception errors", etc etc It works an' I like it.

Dun get me wrong, I've written special to type software of my own which would cause Hawkins problems, I manual and external code and utilise specific utilities but you have to (in my opinion) understand what's going on inside the program. Otherwise whoever has written the prog will trip you up at every step.

Matrix