Need Help!- Gear functin in Ver 22

[GeneK]

Has anybody worked with the gear function in Ver 22? I can't figure out how to use the standard terms as in Ivan Law's book and get them to fly in BobCad 22. Ver 20 takes the terms and computes the tooth shape very well but ver 22 balks at each turn. When I look at the terms the default gear has I find no standard formula from any of my gear books that give those values, but BobCad makes a gear drawing with them.

GeneK

[tobyaxis]

No idea over here. Addendums, and Dedendums, Pressure Angles, and Pitch are what I go by when working with Gears. Sorry

[GeneK]

Originally Posted by tobyaxis No idea over here. Addendums, and Dedendums, Pressure Angles, and Pitch are what I go by when working with Gears. Sorry

unfortunately machinist buy gear cutters by diametrical pitch and pressure angles and number of teeth. Model engineers and other make their drawings accordingly. I found a way to find the OD then convert that to the 'pitch' value that ver 22 wants entered using the pd given on drawings that I am converting to CNC. At least now a gear drawn in Ver 22 will over lay exactly a gear in ver 20.

GeneK

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by GeneK unfortunately machinist buy gear cutters by diametrical pitch and pressure angles and number of teeth. Model engineers and other make their drawings accordingly. I found a way to find the OD then convert that to the 'pitch' value that ver 22 wants entered using the pd given on drawings that I am converting to CNC. At least now a gear drawn in Ver 22 will over lay exactly a gear in ver 20. GeneK

Your not alone. I have been reverting back to V21 for a great deal of things that do not work in V22/2007. It's a shame really. Oh well, at least there is a fighting chance since I have switched to Alibre V10 Professional for CAD Modeling. I feel bad mentioning this because there are so many that purchased V22 that doesn't work are stuck on simple things that V21 can do.

This was a very bad move on BCC's part. Chalk up another dissatisfied customer. I have grown very tired of this version and the excuses made by BCC. The only useful tools I got out of it was Predator Virtual CNC, Predator Editor and a few extra file translators. Hmmmmmmmm.........

"Kick the Tires and Light the Fires.......Alibre ROCKS!!!!!!"

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...300#post438300
http://www.novedge.com/MecSoft/Visua.../products/1572

[HMB3000]

Originally Posted by tobyaxis Your not alone. I have been reverting back to V21 for a great deal of things that do not work in V22/2007. It's a shame really. Oh well, at least there is a fighting chance since I have switched to Alibre V10 Professional for CAD Modeling. I feel bad mentioning this because there are so many that purchased V22 that doesn't work are stuck on simple things that V21 can do. This was a very bad move on BCC's part. Chalk up another dissatisfied customer. I have grown very tired of this version and the excuses made by BCC.

Maybe you just need some training for V22 Toby. Afterall you still have question about V21

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by HMB3000 Maybe you just need some training for V22 Toby. Afterall you still have question about V21

Run out and get training for broken software, that is funny. Hmmmm...., I wonder if you know what your actually saying, or you have posted just to start trouble.

Personally, when I need training for CAD/CAM software I will be going elsewhere, because this is ridiculous.

FYI, My question about V21 has been answered buy a pc expert, and good friend SWAG. He figured it out playing around with the fonts.

So what is it that you do?????

FYI: I am the only person that was able to create Kiwi's Dome with V21, LOL. But then again V21 works, and Alibre is way better.

alibre looks good but what CAM?

[HMB3000]

Originally Posted by tobyaxis Run out and get training for broken software, that is funny. Hmmmm...., I wonder if you know what your actually saying, or you have posted just to start trouble. Personally, when I need training for CAD/CAM software I will be going elsewhere, because this is ridiculous. FYI, My question about V21 has been answered buy a pc expert, and good friend SWAG. He figured it out playing around with the fonts. So what is it that you do????? FYI: I am the only person that was able to create Kiwi's Dome with V21, LOL. But then again V21 works, and Alibre is way better. alibre looks good but what CAM?

it was only a sudjestion had no idea that your that touchie. did not mean to get you all worked up

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by HMB3000 it was only a sudjestion had no idea that your that touchie. did not mean to get you all worked up

Worked UP???? To put it in another way I would say that BCC has been outgrown.

Not to mention the need for Full 4 Axis and 5 Axis Indexing capabilities plus better tool path options. V17,V19,V20,V21 have been successfully used for the last 6 years. Now a change to fully parametric software is a must to avoid having to recreate entire Solid Models and Tool Paths when customers make revision changes. Doing three times the work is not profitable in todays market.

Sorry to Offend but there is a lot of competition out there and I plan to stay competitive.

Anything can be done with BCC, but it can be very time consuming. Hence time is money.

GeneK, I apologize for taking this thread off topic. If you would like I will move it to a better location.

[GeneK]

Originally Posted by tobyaxis Worked UP???? To put it in another way I would say that BCC has been outgrown. Not to mention the need for Full 4 Axis and 5 Axis Indexing capabilities plus better tool path options. V17,V19,V20,V21 have been successfully used for the last 6 years. Now a change to fully parametric software is a must to avoid having to recreate entire Solid Models and Tool Paths when customers make revision changes. Doing three times the work is not profitable in todays market. Sorry to Offend but there is a lot of competition out there and I plan to stay competitive. Anything can be done with BCC, but it can be very time consuming. Hence time is money. GeneK, I apologize for taking this thread off topic. If you would like I will move it to a better location.

No problem, apology accepted. I have always respected how clearly you have helped others on this and other boards. Fortunately/unfortunately for me I am not in a comercial endeavor. I'm a retired EE and certified watchmaker. Retired means very little money to try various programs. I need to make what I have got work at least as long as I can keep doing my hobbies. I was hoping for a migration to ver 22, but it looks like I'll also have to run both for quite a while.

GeneK

[Toolbit]

Hey,
Sounds like you folks think Bobcad V-22 and Microsoft's Vista go hand in hand. Both new and great.<grin>

Calm Down

[smurph]

When I was an automotive mechanic, a very wise older fellow told me something; "New means new. New does not mean good." He was speaking of car parts, but I do believe that it pertains to just about everything.

However, with a lot of work on my post processor and figuring out what I need to do to get around certain issues, I can use v22. I have not found a way to do this with Vista.

[tobyaxis]

Originally Posted by smurph When I was an automotive mechanic, a very wise older fellow told me something; "New means new. New does not mean good." He was speaking of car parts, but I do believe that it pertains to just about everything. However, with a lot of work on my post processor and figuring out what I need to do to get around certain issues, I can use v22. I have not found a way to do this with Vista.

I have been using V22 since last year for tons of stuff. The only problem has been having to revert to V21 and Previous Versions of V22 to keep things going.

It has out worn its welcome on my PC's and for my business. Better software is needed at this point.