CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > CAM Software > BobCad-Cam


BobCad-Cam Discuss all BobCad software here.


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 07-06-2007, 11:56 PM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: United State
Posts: 2
alan2k7 is on a distinguished road
toolpath suggestion

Hi everyone;


I am new to Bobcad. I just got promoted to Bobcad operator after the main guy just quit. I have to pick up what he was working on. To tell you the truth that i have been working with BObcad less than 3 months. I did some projects ok, but when i start working on the latest one, i have been stuck for a week. Deadline is near. I need some help from you guy if possible. Please take a look at my drawing, and i welcome any suggestion.

My machine is Haas mill serie Tm

Thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	top.jpg‎
Views:	47
Size:	22.3 KB
ID:	40274   Click image for larger version

Name:	side.jpg‎
Views:	43
Size:	26.0 KB
ID:	40275   Click image for larger version

Name:	bottom.jpg‎
Views:	43
Size:	20.6 KB
ID:	40276  
Reply With Quote

  #2  
Old 07-07-2007, 11:51 PM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,396
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by alan2k7 View Post
Hi everyone;


I am new to Bobcad. I just got promoted to Bobcad operator after the main guy just quit. I have to pick up what he was working on. To tell you the truth that i have been working with BObcad less than 3 months. I did some projects ok, but when i start working on the latest one, i have been stuck for a week. Deadline is near. I need some help from you guy if possible. Please take a look at my drawing, and i welcome any suggestion.

My machine is Haas mill serie Tm

Thanks
Do you have a Full 4th Axis?

Honestly I would rather do this part on a Lathe between centers. It would be more practical.

Does your shop have a Lathe?
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Reply With Quote

  #3   Ban this user!
Old 07-08-2007, 09:11 AM
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: United State
Posts: 2
alan2k7 is on a distinguished road
Updated

Thank for replying my post. My company does have a lathe machine. But the guy refused to do it??? My mill don't have a 4 axis one. Anway i upload my drawing in bobcad format for better viewing
I plan to cut it down to 90 degree first, the turn the part around to continue.
I will choose planar finish with tool tip, 90 angle, select boundary Z extend -.6 setting.
Let me know if the settings are correct?
Attached Files
File Type: zip rb.zip‎ (87.0 KB, 24 views)
Reply With Quote

  #4  
Old 07-08-2007, 10:03 AM
HuFlungDung's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Canada
Posts: 4,825
HuFlungDung is on a distinguished road

Yes, that looks like a lathe job alright. However, if you are a bear for punishment, you could do it with a ball end mill, and the part set up suspended in midair between two vises. You would have to flip it over, of course, since only the top half would be accessible to the tool.

If the groove radius is equal to a commonly available endmill, that would help simplify the job a great deal. What this would involve in programming, is to plot a circle 'in orbit' around the arc center of each groove. The top half of such a circle would become the toolpath for the ball mill, using the center of radius (not the tip) of the tool as a reference point.

Most likely you would want to rough cut this first, so plotting successive arcs on a slightly ever larger radius than the original would serve that purpose. If that seems too daunting, then you could rough on the exact same path as your finish path, but use a ball mill one size smaller. In fact, use a square end mill for the first roughing, as it will cut a little better if you do a direct plunge into the part, however, it would be better if you created a horizontal lead in movement to the vertical arc path.

Getting your machine to run G2/G3 arcs in the vertical plane can be a learning experience. Once you know the arc center locations (from your drawing), it would not be too onerous to hand code the path. Normally, Bobcad's 'post settings' are set to eliminate vertical arc center information, but one of the regular Bobcad guys might be able to help you reconfigure a special machine config to run true arcs in the vertical plane.
__________________
First you get good, then you get fast. Then grouchiness sets in.

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 07-08-2007, 03:08 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: peru
Posts: 65
alain aleman is on a distinguished road

On the lathe is the better way, less time than a milling.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6  
Old 07-08-2007, 03:31 PM
tobyaxis's Avatar
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 4,396
tobyaxis is on a distinguished road

Originally Posted by alan2k7 View Post
Thank for replying my post. My company does have a lathe machine. But the guy refused to do it??? My mill don't have a 4 axis one. Anway i upload my drawing in bobcad format for better viewing
I plan to cut it down to 90 degree first, the turn the part around to continue.
I will choose planar finish with tool tip, 90 angle, select boundary Z extend -.6 setting.
Let me know if the settings are correct?
Those settings should do well. If they need a little tweeking it will probably be in the step over.

Someone should tell your Lathe Guy that this is a Lathe Part, with secondary milling operations. Honestly, I'd be looking for another Lathe Guy. This is an easy part.

If you need any other help with this post in this thread. We will be here.

Cheers!!!!!!!
__________________
Toby D.
"Imagination and Memory are but one thing, but for divers considerations have divers names"
Schwarzwald

(Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

www.refractotech.com
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
need suggestion on cnc plans. hanau DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 4 06-19-2007 12:02 PM
A suggestion shreifali General Metalwork Discussion 0 02-05-2007 08:44 PM
CNC parts to buy suggestion avengine CNCzone Club House 6 04-20-2006 09:45 PM
A suggestion and a thank you.. murphy625 Suggestions for the CNCzone.com site. 1 03-05-2005 07:02 PM
New guy and I need suggestion. dmgdesigns DIY-CNC Router Table Machines 7 01-31-2004 05:29 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:44 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361