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    Machine comparisons

    Hello everyone, this is my first post on here but I've been reading for a few weeks now.

    I'm looking at getting a benchtop cnc mill to produce small production runs of mainly aluminium parts (aprox. 100 pieces), or one off parts. So far the machine for me seems to be the Taig 2019, its the right size and seems to have all the capability I need.

    Looking at the dealers out there the best price I can find is the Deepgroove machine at $1980 on ebay, which is cheaper (by nearly $500) than elsewhere I can find it plus it includes a 4th axis rotary table. Is this deal too good to be true or am I missing something fundamental?

    I live in England so shipping would be an issue, but I can't find any dealers in the UK.

    Thanks for any help

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    Have you got a link to the one on fleabay? Is it one of the micromills?

    Oh and you'll get no sympathy for living in England
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    If you type TAIG CNC into the international version of ebay you should find it easy enough, not sure if I'm allowed to post links?


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    Quote Originally Posted by rich_cree View Post
    If you type TAIG CNC into the international version of ebay you should find it easy enough, not sure if I'm allowed to post links?
    Link posting is ok for informational purposes, I believe.

    As a Taig owner I would make the following recomendations.
    The Taig er/cr which is computer eady and extended travel in the X.
    Gecko G540.
    WWW.kelinginc.net has a nice package with motors that are well matched to the g540 max voltage of 50 and the max amps of 3.5


    G540 4 axis package (1PCS G540 +4 pcs KL23H284-35-4B (1/4” Dual
    shaft with a flat) 387 oz-in + 1 pcs KL-600-48 48V/12.5A 115V /230V
    power supply): $635.95

    Taig mill is ~$1200usd and the keling g540 package is ~$640usd
    All you do is add a little tlc and you have a machine that will work great.
    The g540 is not an alegro based chopper drive and doesn't resonate or stall and will run really well with the Taig mill.

    Mine has a xylotex and to say the least I am not impressed with its performance.
    Buy the 4th axis at the same time and you will have a real nice setup for its size.
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    In the UK, they are called "PEATOL" mills, so you might do a web search for them under that name.
    They had to change the name over there due to the unfortunate coincidence that the word "Taig" is a very offensive religious/ethnic slur in the UK, so they couldn't just keep calling them that on your side of the Atlantic!


    The Deepgroove machines are not to good to be true, they are what they say they are, but they aren't the greatest option either.
    The reason for the cost difference is that they have a very rudimentary driver that just isn't near up to the performance standards of modern drivers. Especially for aluminum, you will find that driver brutally slow and frustrating.
    Besides, Taig sends the mills out in in two boxes unassembled anyway for shipping reasons, and Paul just includes another box with his motors and driver. You have to do all the assembly and mounting yourself anyway, so there is no marked difference between buying a Deepgroove kit and just assembling your own when it comes right down to it.
    I would also suggest the Gecko g540 as the best cost/performance driver for the Taig. Hands down. The 2019 you can get from any dealer, or Taig themselves. Just put it together yourself.


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    Just seen it....Kind of "toylike" Don't expect too much from something driven by a rubber band
    Keith


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kipper View Post
    Just seen it....Kind of "toylike" Don't expect too much from something driven by a rubber band
    i agree but they are still able to do some impressive work for a rubber band
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataxy View Post
    i agree but they are still able to do some impressive work for a rubber band
    Actually now I think a little more...I could have one..... "In the house" I'll ask the missus......If I'm not back in a day or so............
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    Actually now I think a little more...I could have one..... "In the house" I'll ask the missus......

    That's exactly where I have mine. One of them is on my desk next to the computer, and for the work that doesn't require flood cooling, like my wax and plastic model parts and for engraving, its very quiet and quite convenient. No trips out to a cold garage in winter, and no need to change out my fixtures or the vise on the big mill just to do the little stuff, which are most of my jobs anymore.


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    Thanks for the help guys. So am I right in thinking that if I get cnc ready 2019 mill plus a package like >>>>> http://www.kelinginc.net/FourXCNCPackage2.html then thats all I need (plus computer/software)?

    Thanks again!


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    Yup. Thats about the size of it. You'll also need stuff like an enclosure box to put the stuff in (even an old pc case or similar), a basic knowledge of wiring, and a couple of hours and basic tools and hardware to mount the units in there and connect them all together, but thats about the size of it.

    Pretty simple in all, plus its one hell of a lot better performing system than you would have gotten otherwise, and for about the same cost.


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    Thanks for your help! Right, better get some space sorted in the workshop/shed


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