Sieg X3 Spindle / Motor Problem

[Trey54]

Just seeing if anyone out there has been through this before:

I ran my Grizzly Super X3 mill for about 17 hours at 1800 rpm and it was running fine when I turned it off, and had been running well for about 3 months with sporadic use. However, the very next day it was dead. Everything lights up and the little RPM display shows 0 RPM, but the spindle does not move when the + button is pressed and shortly there after it displays Err (Error). The Grizzly support team has told me to check the fuses which are okay - and the system is getting power b/c the spindle almost tries to move 1/8 of a revolution before quitting and displaying Err.

Has anyone had any problems before? I guess it could be the motor or the electronic boards - where to purchase replacement parts at? Also, I was kinda disappointed with the slow rpms to begin with has anyone upgraded the motor themselves before?

Thanks!

[neilw20]

Read this history first so you to help you understand operation.

I fixed this problem for a friend a few weeks ago (mostly by phone).

His original problem started when EM switch fell apart and something went to ground.

This destroyed everything that ran on 5 volts, and blew the tracks off the main board near the power transformer.

All electronic boards were damaged.

He replaced the lot, and with newer versions, and nothing worked.

He rang me, and after hearing the history, I got him to measure the 5v feeding to the hall sensors. (green plug at end of big board)

He had 5v. When you measure the output from the hall sensors, (3 terminals near the end), at any time any 1 or 2 should measure 0v.
Likewise any 1 or 2 (of the three) should measure 5v.
When you rotate the spindle by hand these should all change alternately.
In summary. ALL should never be 5v or 0v. Thats when you get the ERR message. The motor controller doesn't want to turn on all 3 phases at once! and rightly so.
Normally if you rotate the spindle by hand when it is powered up, it should read 10 or 20 on the readout.

ALL OF THE HALL SENSORS WERE NOT WORKING. They are in the end of the motor.

He bought the motor to me, I replaced the sensors, and tested the motor.
It worked.

He took it home and his machine was used for a couple of hours. Looks like I fixed it, but he left it on not running for a few hours, then the big control board died. Fault not known. 5v OK Hall sensors still work. He is 80Km from me. He took it back to supplier. I don't know result yet.

This is some recent history.

YOUR PROBLEM:
As your motor rotates a part of a turn, at least one of your hall sensor signals is OK

Because it still tries to run, first check for one of the hall sensor wires having an intermittent connection. Chinese workers using wrong crimping tools is a known problem.

If all of your HALL SENSOR signals are working, then one of the 3 phase wires, U,V,W may be open, or a fault in the motor controller 3 phase H-Bridge or hall sensor signal problem ON THE MAIN BOARD.

Sorry about long answer, but that should answer just about any issue with this problem.

NEXT QUESTION?

Regards

Neil

[Trey54]

Thank Neil,

Grizzly is shipping me an entire new board (under warranty), which is very cool of them considering I told them I had converted to a cnc machine. I'll check out those signals to see if they're lining up with what you said.

Also - you signature says your X3 is 3600rpm!!! How did you get this?

Thanks!

[neilw20]

Originally Posted by Trey54 Thank Neil, Grizzly is shipping me an entire new board (under warranty), which is very cool of them considering I told them I had converted to a cnc machine. I'll check out those signals to see if they're lining up with what you said. Also - you signature says your X3 is 3600rpm!!! How did you get this? Thanks!

I bought it that way. I bought ONE WITH THE LOT already factory CNCed

[MotoGems]

Hello.

I have to open up this post...

I seem to have the same problem.... i was cutting aluminium... something went wrong, the machine seemed to want to keep moving but i guess it stopped the motor from too much force....

The Err comes up on the screen panel..

I don't remove the motor?

Is it in the green circuit board at the back of the machine???

How i am going to fix it here in Australia?

Oh dear.....

Ian