CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net!



Home Page Mark Forums Read Today's Posts My Replies Classifieds Reviews Photo Gallery Web Links Share Files Advertise With Us Ad List
Go Back   CNCzone.com-The Largest Machinist Community on the net! > MetalWorking Machines > Benchtop Machines


Benchtop Machines Discuss all mini mills sherline, taig, square column, round column and CNC mill conversions here!


This forum is sponsored by:

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 10:51 AM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 497
tikka308 is on a distinguished road
Practice Material

I'm about to receive my TAIG mill and wanted to ask what other folks use for practice material. I've got some machinable wax and aluminum on the way - but would prefer to start with even cheaper materials.

Thoughts include wood and plastic from old parts.

Suggestions?

Thanks!
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #2   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 11:51 AM
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: ENGLAND
Age: 46
Posts: 1,655
Oldmanandhistoy is on a distinguished road
Just recycle you machining wax.

John
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #3  
Old 08-28-2007, 12:03 PM
mxtras's Avatar
Silver Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: USA
Age: 45
Posts: 1,810
mxtras is on a distinguished road
I did a quick study on this about a year ago. In my opinion the biggest bang for the buck is HDPE. You get more volume per dollar than you do with comparable materials, it is forgiving, machines with a nice finish and can be measured easily.

HDPE is my choice for proving out parts and programs.

Scott
__________________
Consistency is a good thing....unless you're consistently an idiot.
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #4   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 12:10 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 225
under-dog is on a distinguished road
practice material

I think for my first trial movements ever were on air to make sure everything appeared to be working reasonably the way I thought they should. Example if I told the machine to move 2" on x it did so and not 2 mm or 2 feet.


My first cuts were on wood. cheap, forgiving and I could get a better gage on whether things were working the way anticipated.



My first actual legitimate part files were in wax. Cheap reusable and forgiving.

Make some ingot molds and melt down on the stove and recast blocks.



Once you get through the air cutting and wood cutting to make sure the machine is functining properly the wax is a good way to way to go as well
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #5   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 12:28 PM
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 497
tikka308 is on a distinguished road
Thanks, Under Dog.

The best way to make an ingot is to buy square-bar of 6061 and mill/pocket out the shape you want?
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
  #6   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 01:49 PM
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 43
Baketech is on a distinguished road
I like Renwood, and sometimes you can get free scraps from a local pattern shop...
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #7   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 10:07 PM
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 225
under-dog is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by tikka308 View Post
Thanks, Under Dog.

The best way to make an ingot is to buy square-bar of 6061 and mill/pocket out the shape you want?
I dont do anything that fancy. Very backwoods engineering.

You can use anything that is box shaped and of a suitable size(up to you)to make square blocks. I do small stuff so an old sucrets container works well or a tin can or something. Cardboard could work but it may stick so you need to seal it somehow. I tried a plastic tub once and it melted through. I would stick to metal cardboard or better yet make wood box you can take apart to release the block after its cooled.

I use PVC tubing to make round stock. I cut a single slit in it with the band saw so I could expand it open to get the wax out when it is cool. Just need to tape it shut when you pour and tape it to a small wood base to keep the wax from running out.


If you were doing it enough I suppose you could make an AL mold. But as I said it doent need to be anything fancy for practice material. It just needs to containg the melted wax in the size and shape block you need for long enough for it to cool. If I make an actual "usable" finish part from wax I use vigin stock anyway to avoid imperfections.


I have made larger, thicker slabs before too and cut it up on the bandsaw but I would recommend smaller and going thicker than you need. The wax tends to sink in the middle as it cools. On the big slab I made it sank alot and took a long time to cool
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #8   Ban this user!
Old 08-28-2007, 10:25 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 62
jim_stoll is on a distinguished road
I'm a relatively new Taig owner myself. I've found wood (2x4, 2x2) good for rough cuts, MDF board for finer cuts (laminate slices of it together w/ Gorilla Glue to form thicker pieces - makes copious dust when you mill it though...), HDPE from kitchen cutting boards (wonderful stuff - just wish it was locally/readily available in thicker pieces) and PVC 'fake' wood (sold at Lowes and Home Depot) to be easy to mill and forgiving of dumb moves that would hurt me, my machine or my cutting tools if I were cutting metal. Plus, none of this stuff galls the endmills! (one of my main problems starting out w/ aluminum! :-)

I've also used mill-table-sized pieces of MDF bolted to the table to protect the table surface from dumb moves that would otherwise have crashed my endmill into the table - it gives you 1/2" or so of leeway and emergency stopping time if your Z axis move is too deep (ie, through the bottom of the workpiece).

You'll love your Taig - its a mean little beast!! :-)
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

  #9   Ban this user!
Old 08-30-2007, 09:31 PM
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 128
margni74 is on a distinguished road
Originally Posted by tikka308 View Post
I'm about to receive my TAIG mill and wanted to ask what other folks use for practice material. I've got some machinable wax and aluminum on the way - but would prefer to start with even cheaper materials.

Thoughts include wood and plastic from old parts.

Suggestions?

Thanks!
i ordered a box of waste delrin material from ebay a while back. assorted sizes, shapes. rods 1-2" in diameter, blocks anywhere from 1x1x1 to 3x3x3". there were probably 15-20 pieces in the box. might give it a try.

i think this is the place http://cgi.ebay.com/Plastic-Stock-AC...QQcmdZViewItem
Tweet this Post!Share on Facebook
Reply With Quote

Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Practice Cuts in Foam pvogtcharlotte WoodWorking 3 01-03-2007 08:31 AM
Sample 3D model for cnc practice DR-Motion Teachers Hang out 1 11-25-2006 08:35 PM
npt thread gage common practice PETE1968 General Metalwork Discussion 1 03-25-2006 04:11 PM
material to practice milling xovationx General Material Machining Solutions 10 03-21-2006 10:54 AM
PRACTICE Materials ?? High Seas General Metal Working Machines 6 02-07-2004 06:33 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:24 PM.





Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Template-Modifications by TMS

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353