19" table? machine recommendation

[Sonicmook56]

Hi-

Looking for a machine that can do at least 19" x at least 6"

wanting to do engrving and cutouts in 3mm aluminim standard size rack panels (19") for my electroncs projects.

Searching around, These two stuck out:

Seig x3.. Nice price, lots of conversion kits, table too small, Can the table be made operate on a larger X axis?

and
Grizzly G1006.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/G1006

Heavy, bigger unit, no conversion kits..


I really dont want to engineer parts to make a conversion kit myself, so I was hoping somthing is available.

Budget 3K

Regards

~B

[ataxy]

well the vario bf20 comes in L version wich as 7(y)x18.8(x)x12(z) wich is pretty much what you are looking for

[MichaelHenry]

I've used the Tormach PCNC 1100 to make instrument cutouts in standard 19" rack panels. The mill is limited to 18" travel in X, or maybe a little more with some limit switch adjustment, but my cutouts all fit within that work envelope. You lose about 1/2" on the side edges of the panel for the screw slots so the max available X length needed is right around 18" anyway. The bezel for the stuff I was insatlling in the cutouts also cut the available X length a bit, too.

Y travel on that mill is around 9-1/2".

Mike

[ZipSnipe]

Ataxy do they have those in Canada now?

[ataxy]

Originally Posted by ZipSnipe Ataxy do they have those in Canada now?

the L no but i have asked garant if they would be able to get just the table as this is the only difference from the V and LV

Model No.                       WMD20V              WMD20LV 
Max. drilling capacity           20mm                20mm 
Max. end milling capacity        16mm                16mm 
Max. face milling capacity       63mm                63mm 
Table size                       500×180mm           700×180mm +200mm or 7.874"
T-slot size                      12mm                12mm 
Cross travel                     175mm               175mm 
Longitudinal travel              280mm               480mm +200mm or 7.874"
Vertical travel                  380mm               380mm

[Sonicmook56]

Is there a US dealer for the vario bf20 unit? Googling renders nothing.

Also:

Can I buy a larger table with ball screws and just add onto a smaller, cheaper mill like one of the x series? I'm only going to use this for engraving and small cutouts in 3mm aluminum.

Sorry for the redundednt questions I'm asking. This is all confusing to me as diffrent resellers offer the same product from the same manufactuer under diffrent model numbers for diffrent prices.

I really just want a plug and play system, or a time tried DIY method.

~B

[ataxy]

the mill i have is pretty similar to a bf20 but is not exactly a bf20 but yes there is a dealer that sells the bf20 in the state under the name bf200 not 20 and i am certain they can get the L table as an option or aftermarket part

here you go link
http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/pr...ategoryID=6692

7" x 20" Table-Dovetail column
Work head can swivel ±45º.
All dials and scales are .001" graduations.
The head has a 2-speed gearbox for increased torque.
It is powered by a electronic variable-speed-controlled motor.
All slides Utilize dovetail construction for maximum rigidity.
The table is hardened and ground .
Specifications:
Drilling Capacity . . . . . . . . 3/4"
Milling Capacity
End Mill . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/4"
Face Mill . . . . . . . . . . 2-1/2"
Head Swivels . . . . . . . . . ±45º
Variable speeds . 100-3000 RPM
Spindle Taper . . . . . . . . . . 2MT
Spindle Travel . . . . . . . . . . . . 2"
Spindle To Table(Max.) . 14-7/8"
Table Size . . . . . . . . . . . 7" x 20"
Table Travel . . . . . . . . 7" x 11.2"
Table Slot . . . . . . . . . 1/2" T-Nut
Motor . . . . . . . . . . 1 H.P. 110V
Net Weight . . . . . . . . . . 226 lbs

the biggest difference between this one and the one i got, aside from been sold in the us, is the 1hp motor compared to my 7/8hp motor wich explain the 100-3000 speed while mine does 50-2250

[Sonicmook56]

all of these options seem a bit overkill for what I want to do. Maybe I need a CNC router to get the surface area I want.

I'm only going to be engraving/cutting holes in 3mm aluminum.

Most of the inexpensive CNC router table use a dremel (bla) and I think I would kill it pretty fast. (I have already burned up two in my life!)

What's out there?

[ZipSnipe]

SWEET!! Good Find Ataxy....

[ataxy]

Originally Posted by Sonicmook56 all of these options seem a bit overkill for what I want to do. Maybe I need a CNC router to get the surface area I want. I'm only going to be engraving/cutting holes in 3mm aluminum. Most of the inexpensive CNC router table use a dremel (bla) and I think I would kill it pretty fast. (I have already burned up two in my life!) What's out there?

i agree a cnc router would be plenty for what you need to do and yes a dremel is mor appropriate for tiny job then cut out i would go with at least a edge trimmer

Originally Posted by ZipSnipe SWEET!! Good Find Ataxy....

no problem i remembered that someone had posted about it a few month ago anyway most of those machine have about the same spec like mine with slight variation in the motor power as for them mt2 cone some will argue that you wont be able to insert as big of a end mill in as a r8 but i think that using any end mill over 1/2" in those machine is a bit over kill, the only problem is that your tooling wont be upgradable to a bigger machine in the optic that you plan on upgrading to a BP knee mill type eventualy, but most hobbyist and even for prototype work the tooling available for these type of cone is good

[Rat7734]

the grzzlyLooks like the same mill I have from microkenitics. take a look at their site as they also have conversion kits.
http://www.microkinetics.com/cncdmill.htm

[ataxy]

yeah the problem with those round collumn drill/mill is that they are more drill with the capacity of a mill then mill with the capacity of a drill