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huh. i could have sworn i saw and ad saying 25k. maybe it was for something esle.Originally Posted by JMI80
for $40,000 you can get a haas tapping centre, so id bypass the opti altogether.
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Yeah, those starts to be so big amount ofthat second link is the same machine as the syil x7. im curious what pricing would be. the regular syil is $10k, so id imagine the tool change, spindle, servo, contral and housing upgrades add at least $10-$15kk more. gets out of hobby land i think, but probably still alot less than a hass with similar features. if the quality was there, it might be a viable option.
opti also has this thing for about $25k.:
money that you rather like to think something
like Haas tool room mill or minimill.
There's interesting Fryer tool room mill, ATC is
optional:
http://www.fryermachine.com/toolroom/mb_r_series1.html
Price $32,980.00, I don't know if ATC is included in that price or how much extra it does cost.
Seems to be much more rigid than haas tm1. Costs about same.
Where do you have seen that Opti F 100 for
$25k?
I have only seen prices like 44-52kEUR, that is around
$76k ...
http://www.optimum-maschinen.de/prod...cnc/index.html
I think it would be possible to put that into freight elevator if some sheet metal etc. is removed, but if the real price is 52 keur, then I think it is overpriced machine. With 52keur you can get something like Mori Seiki Dura vertical, Haas VF3 of Fadal 3016 FX. Hmm...If I would have extra 52 kEUR, do I buy Mori Seiki VMC or Opti F 100...
huh. i could have sworn i saw and ad saying 25k. maybe it was for something esle.
for $40,000 you can get a haas tapping centre, so id bypass the opti altogether.
I guess your weight limit is going to be the biggest problem if you are looking to buy a 'real' VMC. There are some amazing bargins in 2nd hand machines on professional machine-tool auction sites at the moment - I just wish I had the space and the 3-phase power for one!
one thing i regret now that have the funds and space is not snatching up a new complete "rolling chassis" vmc for $5000. was a compact travelling column machine with 30x16" travel and basically just needed motors and electrical and control.
ah well
Yes, freight elevator weight limit is the biggest problem.
Haas minimill might be possible to get into this small workshop. Have to ask few questions from minimill owners or from reseller in the future.
Here is a new machining video from the weekend:
"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyFK235W-h0"]YouTube- IOM_RudderMould.wmv
Some hard rock background music of course
JMI80
I love your machine, particularly the fact that you use EMC2
Couple new videos:
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgpWrl35I4Y"]YouTube- EyeboltMachining.wmv[/nomedia]
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LytH7eCuvDk"]YouTube- MastPartner.wmv[/nomedia]
What do you guys think:
Should there be background music at the machining video or not?
Is heavy metal/ hard rock the only right music scheme for machining, or is techno/ techno rock a good choice?
no other music than the sound of metal rending metal I really would much rather listen to the beautiful sounds of the cutter tearing through the workpiece and hear just how the motor is handling the load. Both techno and heavy metal (esp. death metal) more lend themselves to backround music, to enjoy while I'm violating motor vehicle laws at excessive rates of speed.
Seriously, it is always a pleasure to see your machine in action, if I ever get around to converting my BF20 I think I will just swap the head out altogether also. Great job!!
New video again:
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6FdGwtnGSA"]YouTube- ThumbWheelMachining.wmv[/nomedia]
This time no backround music during machining operations!
I think that death metal is very good backround music during evening shift
when big horizontal machining center's and big VMC's cut metal like there's
no tomorrow!
Drive safely
I always enjoy watching your machine and your videos. Very cool work and you are obviuosly a master of that machine.
Couple of questions,
Were the thumbwheels also Stainless?
Also, what is the clicking noises in the video?
That is an impressive machine! Nice work.
Hi,
Thumbwheels are just from aluminium. I don't do much stainless or steel machining with this machine. Lack of spindle horse power soon comes obvious if there would be much material to rough away. Aluminium, brass, plastic and wood goes just fine with this machine and can be milled with pretty good feedrates.
I also like to do aluminium machining because pretty cheap HSS cutters work
just fine and they last forever in aluminium machining. During the years I have spend something like 2000-3000 euros (around 2700-4000 USD) to solid carbide cutters to be able do steel machining effectively...This is pretty expensive hobby...
Clicking noises are from camera autofocus... It's Pentax optio W60 camera.
It's a waterproof camera made for tough use. Pretty nice camera to use for these kind videos, but those clicking sounds are definitely bit supid. I could
try someday if it's possible to shoot sharp videos without autofocus.
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