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Thread: WHOA! Power drawbar/toolchanger for X2??

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    WHOA! Power drawbar/toolchanger for X2??

    Holy #$%#$%!!!! Have you all seen this??

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2936

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2937


    -Jeff

    PS: I searched cnczone to see if anyone mentioned this, and they haven't yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by InspirationTool View Post
    Holy #$%#$%!!!! Have you all seen this??

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2936

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2937


    -Jeff

    PS: I searched cnczone to see if anyone mentioned this, and they haven't yet.
    That is very nice! It looks like it'd preclude the use of a belt drive though...

    How hard would it be to make a powered drawbar with a meaty stepper motor?


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    According to the PDF, you can use the Sterling belt drive kit with the power drawbar.


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    thanks for the link, they look great! do you know who manufacturers them?


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    Quote Originally Posted by InspirationTool View Post
    According to the PDF, you can use the Sterling belt drive kit with the power drawbar.
    D'oh - I just looked at the pics oops!


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    does anyone know roughly how much force the compression spring washers in this produce to hold the tormach collet when running?


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    CAD drawings only. Why no photos. At what stage of development is it. Is there a running example. How about a video.

    Its backordered so who out there has one. On sale as well.

    My sceptical nature must be showing by now I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InspirationTool View Post
    Holy #$%#$%!!!! Have you all seen this??

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2936

    http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ProductID=2937


    -Jeff

    PS: I searched cnczone to see if anyone mentioned this, and they haven't yet.
    Last edited by philbur; 11-15-2006 at 12:58 PM. Reason: Typo, again!


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    Looks like the power drawbar/tool changer costs more than the mill. Go figure!
    Don't forget the $$$$ for the Tormach tool holders. Guess I need a second (or maybe 3rd) job!
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    well its too expensive for me, but i would like to build something similar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by daedalus View Post
    well its too expensive for me, but i would like to build something similar.
    I hear that! Do you think a stepper might be up to doing the drawbar? I'd rather it were screwed in and out than just pulled back in by a spring...


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    from the looks of it i would say that the drawbar itself is springloaded and that is a fat air cylinder on top of it.

    i have been wanting to build something similar, but i just haven't put down the cash for the tormach tooling yet.. maybe someday, just not today.


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    I think the main issue is that the driver needs to be disconnected from the draw bar when the spindle is rotating. This is easily done with a spring and air cylinder. It becomes mechanically more complex if you want to - connect to draw-bar, rotate, then disconnect. Of course it is doable but coming up with a simple reliable mechanical system will challenge your design skills.

    The down side of the air cylinder/spring arrangement is you need a compressed air supply and, unless you complicate the design, the considerable force require to compress the spring when releasing is taken on the bearings.

    I guess you could replace the air cylinder with a stepper motor combined with some kind of a cam/lever arrangement in order to gain the considerable mechanical advantage necessary to compress the spring. But that still leaves the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digits View Post
    I hear that! Do you think a stepper might be up to doing the drawbar? I'd rather it were screwed in and out than just pulled back in by a spring...


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