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    New X2 Base

    I have decided to research and possibly take on having a new X2 base made. My thought is to have a base made that provides an increase of 4 inches on the Y axis and more beef in it's structure.

    I purchased a new X2 base with the thought that I was going to follow in degreaser's path. The problem I have encountered is the new X2 base from HF is even more Chinese than my original base.

    So, here are my specifications.

    Length 4 inch increase
    Width no change
    Height no change
    Vertical wall thickness uniformly set to 3/4"
    Thickness of top uniformly set to 1 1/2"
    Thickness of back concave area set to 1/2"
    Support webbing utilizing existing layout with no changes
    Feet no change

    Weight should increase from the current ~12 to ~25 pounds.

    What are your thoughts?


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    I'm still waiting to receive my X2. I will definitely be interested if I get one with the new base.

    What do you plan on using for material?


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    Quote Originally Posted by thudson View Post
    I'm still waiting to receive my X2. I will definitely be interested if I get one with the new base.

    What do you plan on using for material?
    Cast cl 40 gray iron.


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    What you could do is learn how to cast iron. Then you could turn out blanks like cookies and sell them to us folks to finish machine. Finishing a blank would involve a great deal less machining than machining a solid block of cast iron. There's a good casting group on Yahoo! by the name of castinghobby.

    If you go the solid block route, I'd figure out a different column mount to avoid the deep recess required by the existing design and include some sort of column support. Maybe just eliminate the column swivel altogether. That would solve a lot of problems.

    Rereading your original post - Are *you* thinking of making the base or having *someone else* make the base? If the latter, contact Seig and see how much it would be to fabricate a beefier base for say 1000 units.
    ~Don


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    degreaser,

    I'm not ready to bake cookies just yet so I will sub the casting out. I did think about it and I do have enough room in the yard but I have too many hobbies right now. Here is a small list....

    cast jewelry mainly gold
    facet gemstones (no diamonds)
    complete wood shop (and I mean complete)
    this silly little mill project
    anodizing (just started but nice results)
    trying to start a side business
    and oh yea...I work for a living
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    Jewelry? I'm aspiring. Working in silver and copper, chainmaille. My sister and brother-in-law are pros. We'll have to chat.
    ~Don


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    Here are some of the things I have made.....and yes, the long earrings have more than 70 24 gauge split rings on each earring that were soldered in place while chaining the earrings...took forever.
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    Oh, and I totally forgot about the mig and tig welders......Once you go tig you never go back


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    Wam:

    Could you post a picture of your X2 Base?

    I'm curious to see the complexity of the project you are undertaking.

    I think Hoss mentioned his Y extension was about 6".

    Not sure though! You make nice jewelry.......!

    W. Smith, Mission Viejo, CA


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    Quote Originally Posted by CNCfun&games View Post
    Wam:
    Could you post a picture of your X2 Base?
    I'm curious to see the complexity of the project you are undertaking.
    I think Hoss mentioned his Y extension was about 6".
    Not sure though! You make nice jewelry.......!
    W. Smith, Mission Viejo, CA

    I'm just starting the requirements gathering phase but here are pictures of an existing base. It will be the same base with about 4 inches added to the middle and more beef in the structure. Thank you for you kind comments, my wife does like the bobbles but if you really want to see nice work check this guys site out. TAJS

    And there are a number of guys on this site that do equally fine work (member ship is required)3dcadjewelry.com
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    I've been thinking along the same lines. Here are my ideas.

    1. Add a bearing pocket for the Y axis ball screw so it can use the same bearings as the X axis screw.

    2. 10" total travel minimum.

    3. An improved column mount.

    4. Can be machined on the stock X2's table. Many users only have their X2, so allowing the new base to be made or finished on their existing machine would make it much more useful.

    5. Provisions for better chip guards for the Y axis ways.

    Fred
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    1. Add a bearing pocket for the Y axis ball screw so it can use the same bearings as the X axis screw.

    I'm not sure what you are referring to. When I CNC'd mine I used the same bearings on the XYZ axis.

    2. 10" total travel minimum.

    I was looking to get closer to 8 inches of travel to minimize the head stock spacer size.

    3. An improved column mount.

    This is one item I was thinking of also but I would look to maybe make that change in rev 2.

    4. Can be machined on the stock X2's table. Many users only have their X2, so allowing the new base to be made or finished on their existing machine would make it much more useful.

    I think that only Hoss has an X2 machine capable of accurately finishing a base.

    5. Provisions for better chip guards for the Y axis ways.

    I feel that chip guards are a function of the individual implementation.


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