Results 1 to 3 of 3

Thread: I'm confused with the Keling data sheets

  1. #1
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    205
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0

    I'm confused with the Keling data sheets

    One of my customers asked me to choose a 34-size servo motor from Keling for his application. I visited the Keling web site and downloaded the three data sheets - and then the confusion started.

    The KL34-180-90 motor lists the KE of the motor as 18.95 V / 100 rpm. In another place they list the max. speed at constant voltage as 3200 rpm and they list the terminal voltage as 90VDC. My calculator shows that 3200 / 90 = 35.555 rpm per volt. In other words, if I multiply 35.555 by 90, I get 3200. If I multiply 35.555 by 80 I get 2844 rpm. Since the maximum voltage of a Geckodrive G320x is 80V, I need to know how fast that motor will turn if I give it 80V.

    The same problem exists with the KL34-170-90 motor and the KL34-150-90 motor. The 170 motor lists KE at 18.75V / 100 rpm but it also gives 4200 rpm @ 90V when 4200 / 90 = 46.666. The 150 motor lists KE at 13.36 V / 100 rpm but it also gives 6000 rpm and 90 V which would imply 66.666.

    The KT ratings are just as confusing. The 180 motor lists a KT rating of 0.182 Nm/amp but lists constant torque as 1.6Nm and continuous current as 7.8A which computes to 1.41Nm.

    What figures should I believe?

    When I emailed Keling, they responded asking what my application was. I responded and have heard nothing more from them.

    Are they just pulling numbers out of the air or have I made some fundamental computational errors in trying to make sense of their data?


  2. #2
    Registered
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    80
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Ke V/100rpm should be 18.95 kV/kRPM.
    For the KL34-180-90, at 90V this should produce a max speed of 4,750 rpm with no load. At rated torque output, this drops to 3200 rpm.

    We can calculate Kt from Ke (here). In Nm this is Kt = Ke * 0.0095. Kt is right at 0.18Nm/A.

    I can't say whether Kelings info is accurate, but you can compare your calculations on a very similarly specced motor: ID33000 series (or noreg here).


  3. #3
    Registered
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    205
    Downloads
    0
    Uploads
    0
    Thanks for that help. For several years, I've had an MCG-33004 motor connected to a Geckdrive G340 (modified to be a G320 by removing the pulse multiplier) servo driver sitting on the back of my test bench. Because stepper motors have handled my customers' needs, I haven't spent much time testing the servo stuff; however, a customer wants to use servo motors in a machine that he is building and the local sales office for the MCG products has closed - so I decided to take a look at the Keling products.

    The sites that you referenced have the background info that I need to make some valid comparisons.


Similar Threads

  1. X4 Setup sheets
    By 72k5 in forum Mastercam
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 03-04-2010, 01:55 PM
  2. Build Thread- set up sheets
    By 1234567 in forum BobCad-Cam
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 10-27-2009, 02:38 PM
  3. Fanuc data sheets
    By RP Designs in forum Servo Motors and Drives
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 05-19-2009, 11:20 PM
  4. Carbon Sheets
    By barkster in forum Parts for Radio Control Models
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 11-03-2008, 07:03 AM
  5. Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS)
    By widgitmaster in forum Polls
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 08-08-2006, 05:38 PM

Posting Permissions


 


About CNCzone.com

    We are the largest and most active discussion forum from DIY CNC Machines to the Cad/Cam software to run them. The site is 100% free to join and use, so join today!

Follow us on

Facebook Dribbble RSS Feed


Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.