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    3d Guitar Building?????????????

    I HAVE RECENTLY ATTENDED A SHORT COURSE ON AUTOCAD AND HAVE FOUND IT IS NOT CAPABLE OF DESIGNING A 3D ELECTRIC GUITAR BODY WITH A FILLET/RADIUS AROUND THE GUITAR BODY.

    COULD ANYONE RECOMMEND WHICH CAD SOFTWARE WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS?????????????


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    Solid Works, CAPS LOCK = OFF, ProE, Mastercam, there's a million of 'em.

    If you're only doing one, you might look for a demo version that lets you keep the model. If you're going to do a lot, you'll have to buy a somewhat pricy software.

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    Here's a real quick quitar shape in autocad



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    You mean something like this? You can easily add a fillet around the body if it's a flat body style like a strat. If you're talking about a carved top like a Les Paul, than it would be easier elsewhere, But AutoCAD is more capable than you think, you just have to work a little harder. If it won't work for ya, try Rhino.

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    How did yo do that in Autocad????????????????????????

    Did you use a spline to do it or not??????????

    Can you tell me if you can create a 3D model from a spline in any other software???????????????



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    Extrude along a path. I used a spline for the path. "Lines, circles, arcs, ellipses, elliptical arcs, polylines, or splines can be paths" (From the help file. ) create a closed shape for your profile. draw your path. Use rotate3D to align your profile to the end of your path. Extrude.

    Rhino uses mostly splines to model with. So do many others.

    If the guitar you want to design is a flat body like a strat, I would start with the outline of the body. Extrude it to the thickness that you want. Use the fillet command to round the edges like I showed above. (Although thats NOT how I did it ) Create solids the shape of the neck cavity and pickup recesses and SUBTRACT them. If you want an angled top (forearm area), you can either use Subtract again with a solid moved and rotated into position, or use the slice command.

    There is a LOT of info in the help file about 3D modelling, and quite a few tools at your disposal in Acad.

    You can also do quite a bit using meshes from curves (arcs) and splines, but the solid methods I listed above are a lot easier to learn. Any more questions, just ask.

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    ger21

    Here is the body I am trying to fillet the edges of so that they are rounded.

    I have extruded the 2D enclosed spline to make it 3D.

    I need to know how to do the edges of the body.

    The blue out lines are the guys I need to fillet???????????
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    ger21

    Here is the body I am trying to fillet the edges of so that they are rounded.

    I have extruded the 2D enclosed spline to make it 3D.

    I need to know how to do the edges of the body.

    The blue outer lines are the guys I need to fillet???????????

    heres the image
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    slpd, Are you just trying to get a 3D model for show and tell? Or are you concerned about creating an accurate model for CNC routing?

    It you are concerned about routing, You shouldn't be. In fact you don't even need a 3D model to route the guitar as shown. A 2D drawing will work just fine.

    The radii and pocket depth can all be handled by the CAM program.

    If visual is what you want, them try to extrude along a path like ger21 suggested. Then draw and extrude the middle section.

    Use the UNION command to join everything together.


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    The fillet command should work fine for those edges. You might have to use the chain option depending on what happens when you select the edge. If you can't get it to work, post the drawing and I'll take a look at it.

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    If edge you are trying to fillet makes too sharp of a bend it can cause the fillet to overlap back on itself and give you an error during the fillet command.

    In a case like that, you can fillet a less radical bend on two separate solids. You can then use the union and subtract functions to complete the solid model.

    The chamfer can be subtracted off after the fillet is done.

    Bill.


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    Well. I'll give you a hint... Don't filet the edges in the model... Let the router cut a hard edge and use a hand held router for the edges using a piloted round over bit. Most shops do it this way. Even Warmoth. Doing the round over on the 3d model will add much time to the machining of the body. Also don't plan to use the pickup cavities, tremolo routes and neck pockets as part of the 3d model for machining everything at once. Do those entities as completely separate pocketing routines. That will offer you some addtional time savings as the Z axis movements won't be slowing you down. In fact if you can just do a contour cut on the outline and isolate the forearm contour as the "only" 3D toolpath you'll save "MUCH" time on the router. Most shops will do it this way as they will only have a body on the machine for a half hour or less vs. 2-3 or more.

    All of this is assuming that you are planning to actually machine out that RG body and not just doing it as a 3D modelling excersize.

    The RG/JEM Model with the AANJ that is floating around the net(Looks like that's what you've started with) if not then I apologize for assuming, that I've fooled with is a little funky and I too have had a tough time getting a good filet on, I basically had to retrace the oultine and g from there.
    Nathan


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