$7500 plus annual support fees in excess of $1000 per year.
Sorry for this silly question. I have checked the net but haven't found a website with pricing for the Artcam Pro. Can anyone tell me the ballpark figure of this software? Seems interesting as I am thinking about doing signboards as well and the user gallery is very impressive. Is there an online store selling the software? Thanks in advance.
$7500 plus annual support fees in excess of $1000 per year.
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I managed to get the price from another thread also. Its really expensive. Oh Well!
What thkoutsidethebox said. Look at Vcarve Pro. Watch a few of their tutorials. Very easy and quick to learn.
I have never used this type of software before and after watching the tutorials that come with V4 it took me about 15 minutes to come up with a bowl shaped like the state of Texas after I grabbed a JPEG of it off the Internet.
Vectric VCarve PRO 4.0 Trial Version. It doesn't cost anything to try it out and you can actually cut the included sample designs. You can also create and save your own projects but the trial version won't allow you to produce any tool paths.
VCarve PRO is fun, way cool, easy to learn, produces quality results and very quickly pays for itself. While you're there grab the other trials, too; Vectric Cut3D and PhotoVCarve. And yes, I, too, am also using Vectric's products with fantastic results. Oh, and Vectric has great support via their own forum and the two human dynamos that are Vectric, Tony and Brian.
Don't be the one that stands in the way of your success!
Thanks for the info. Will definitely check it out.
Also take a look at - ArtCAM Express its a much cheaper option to ArtCAM Pro and allows you to import 3d models and reliefs and machine them aswell as all the standard 2d functionality.
I cant wait till vectric comes out with 3d modeling, At the moment thats the difference between vectric & express compared to artcam pro. If vectric did that it would pretty near sink any other software used for cnc. Did you get that Tonly if your listening Well I caused enough trouble here, ill go look for another some more some were else lol. graham
Artcam can cost a lot more than you think, depending on how lucky you are and/or whether you are willing to litigate internationally. I love the program, some of the people, and formerly the support. Lately they seem to have gotten extremely paranoid over people pirating their wares - it has become epidemic particularly in China and India in large numbers of multi-seat environments - and it is very understandable they quite rightly want to and need to put a stop to this. Unfortunately, their reaction has been very toxic to their core user base - it hurts registered users and doesn't do much if anything to stop the serious piracy in the first place.
Remember that there have been incidents recently that bring into doubt whether the $7500-$9500 license you buy today has any guarantee it will be honored when it comes time to update. Even if you try to pay the $1500-$2000 per year maintenance, you may well be refused and told no, the license is invalid now and you have to buy another full license at $9500 - and in one case the user was told in no uncertain terms by the salesman that if he didn't pay full price again he was a pirate and they would prosecute him for continuing to use his original copy he had paid for. That was being the registered owner with a fully legit version with the dongle and all. Lose or destroy that and you are just as screwed, pay again. Even if you are on their good side and pay a grand or two a year to get maintenance you are going to likely be treated like a criminal. It has all forced several people I know of who have bought legit versions to actually go pirate as they had no choice other than that or pay up for a full reg again. And likely later, again. Besides, apparently some of the pirate stuff is more stable on some laptops without all the security crap interfering and crashing out. There is one guy I know of with a legit version collecting dust on the shelf and a pirate copy of the same version he has to use to do his work with for just that reason.
I haven't had any trouble with them myself or my license, knock on wood, but there is a small but growing base of legit people put out in the cold by Delcam (or their reps, anyway), several that I know personally, that show this is not an isolated thing. Hopefully - and I truly do hope this - it may be changing. I don't want them to shoot themselves in the foot, I like the program and don't want it to go away. I noticed at least last time I went to their website to get a patch, the opening page had a message politely asking users to register their .PAF file before allowing the download. This sure beat the previous opening screen message that was something really friendly like "YOUR IP ADDRESS HAS BEEN LOGGED FOR INVESTIGATION". Not much, but it's a start anyway. You know, its the polite little things that count when you've just handed somebody ten grand of your money...
I pretty dismayed by this last post. Delcam certainly does honour its maintenance system. If you pay your annual maintenance you are entitled to *every* release (big or small) that we produce for your product. If you don't choose to pay maintenance you can pay for the upgrade(s) instead - the choice is entirely yours. Obviously if you allow your maintenance to lapse and you have not stayed up-to-date with releases, you will typically need to get back on track by buying the equivalent upgrade before continuing with maintenance. It should really be that simple.
If people are encountering what they believe to be 'sharp' practises through our Sales Partners please contact us directly and we will ensure that it is immediately rectified. The best method of contacting us directly is probably through firstname.lastname@example.org. There are also direct phone numbers depending on where you are in the world. See:
As the development manager for ArtCAM, product security and licensing are my responsibility. I agree that these can be a pain in bits for all concerned, but the simple fact is I'd be out of a job and you guys would be out of software tools pretty quickly if I didn't make efforts to secure *both* of our investments in ArtCAM.
My team and I wrote the downloads system for ArtCAM - it does try to validate what products you are likely to want from your customer ID & dongle (in the same way that you enter a serial number to get drivers for a piece of hardware). It does this in order to filter which, of the potentially dozens, of Delcam's software downloads is appropriate for you. If possible this is done automatically. If for some reason if fails to do this (Norten or other products can interfere with it) then we simply ask you to type the equivalent information in from your PAF file manually. There are no tricks and no secret nonsense.
The suggestion of a message (or indeed any IP address shinanigans):
"YOUR IP ADDRESS HAS BEEN LOGGED FOR INVESTIGATION"
is simply not true. I would suggest that Stepper Monkey gets hold of an up-to-date virus & spam checker as this may indicate he/she is not hitting the sites intended? Can you contact the support address above and we'll investigate it for you?
I hope this clears up a few things - sorry that my first CNCZone post is to correct something. I hope I can contribute some more constructive stuff in the future.
This is off subject. Figured since you work for ArtCAM I'd ask.
When I open my version 9.017 I see, for a split second, an icon of
a cabinet door in the "other features" window. Then it disappears.
Is this a functional upgrade or option? If ArtCAM could layout cabinet components based on size that would be way easier than it is now.