View Full Version : Just In NEW AUTOMATIC TOOL CHANGE CNC ROUTER SPINDLE, PRE-RELEASE


blurrycustoms
10-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Hello all,

Blurry Customs is nearing the release of a brand new automatic tool change (ATC) system, designed for our line of CNC routers, DIY machines, and other commercial systems.

At the core of this system, will be the new Avenger spindle interface. A high precision spindle interface, easily mountable to almost any CNC platform. This spindle platform will be able to handle speeds up to 25,000 rpm, allow for quick manual tool changes, and be easily integrated into fully automatic tool change systems, all while operating on standard shop air pressures.

We have begun this thread to chronicle the release of the system, and request feedback from CNC users. Over the next couple of weeks we will be releasing details of the system, choosing beta testers, and answering questions on the system, as we approach a full release.

We are also hoping to gain a small insight into the demand for this product, in order to efficiently plan for production volumes.

If you have any interest in an affordable ATC spindle system, and would like more information on beta testing, distributing, or pre-orders feel free to contact us at the address below. OEM's are also welcome to contact us for information on OEM sales.

Keep an eye on this thread for updates.

Blurry Customs
http://www.blurrycustoms.com
avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com

A1CNC
10-19-2009, 10:00 PM
I would be interested in an auto toolchanging router if the price is right.

What horsepower, range will these be?

What type of toolholder and size of bits?

What price range?

Sorry about all the questions but I am sure I will not be the only one!

Regards,
Eric

blurrycustoms
10-20-2009, 11:09 AM
I appreciate the questions and do expect quite a few until we are able to get all of the information out there.

-The Avenger system is designed to handle 2-5HP, based on provided motor.
*This system is designed to be as modular as possible, and one of the key features is the ability to provide your own motor in the form of many popular hand routers like the Bosch 1617EVS, and Porter Cable models up to 4.25" in diameter. More options to come.

-The Avenger system is designed around a dedicated tooling system, that was developed to provide high performance cutting capabilities while still maintaining lower cost than many tooling systems currently available. The tool holders will provide tooling options including standard sized end mill holders up to 1/2" and up to ER25 holders which can handle up to 5/8" shank sizes

-I will send our projected pricing information through a PM. All pricing requests should be in the form of a PM or email until we can finalize the numbers.

Thank you again for all of the interest.

307startup
10-21-2009, 07:35 PM
Is this an all new taper/tooling design or an adaptation of a currently available one?

Is this a cartridge style spindle, or just a small spindle add-on for an existing spindle?

blurrycustoms
10-21-2009, 08:57 PM
Is this an all new taper/tooling design or an adaptation of a currently available one?

Is this a cartridge style spindle, or just a small spindle add-on for an existing spindle?

-The Avenger System uses a new style of toolholder known as the AVQS125. Though it's design is based on principles from both ISO and HSK style holders.

-Avenger system is a very compact cartridge spindle. Upon initial release, popular routers will be used for motors, and will be directly coupled to the Avenger system, Motor cartridges, in various power ratings and speed ranges, will also be available at a later date.

The Avenger spindle carries all of the burden of the mechanical spindle function on ABEC 9 angular contact bearings. Allowing for high load ratings, high accuracy, and high speeds.

More information to come.

jemmyell
10-22-2009, 10:26 AM
What is the runout on this projected to be?

-James

blurrycustoms
10-22-2009, 10:34 AM
What is the runout on this projected to be?

-James

Our projected run out spec at this time is .0004" (.010mm) or better at the taper.

Crevice Reamer
10-22-2009, 11:11 AM
Congrats! This looks good.

CR.

blurrycustoms
10-26-2009, 11:11 AM
Thanks CR.

We are looking to release a few more details this week, so keep an eye out.

Bugsy36
11-16-2009, 10:35 PM
Any further updates or information on this unit? Maybe even some pics?

blurrycustoms
11-17-2009, 10:57 AM
Any further updates or information on this unit? Maybe even some pics?

We do have a couple of new pictures that are available for release. They can be seen below.

http://www.blurrycustoms.com/Images/avenger1_pub.jpg

http://www.blurrycustoms.com/Images/X1000-20.JPG


Please feel free to send any comments, questions, pre-order requests, and dealer inquiries to avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com.

http://www.blurrycustoms.com

ger21
11-17-2009, 11:30 AM
Will it fit PC routers too?

blurrycustoms
11-17-2009, 11:41 AM
Yeah, the 890's are the same diameter as the Bosch 1617 (3.5"), and we will be making housings for the large 7518s.

Bugsy36
11-17-2009, 01:43 PM
Interesting. Any idea of the projected cost?

judleroy
11-17-2009, 02:46 PM
I am also interested in the spindle. The cost will be the determining factor. As of now the only tool change systems I know about are not cheap. The cheapest with four tool holders and tool rack is $2750.00. The next inline with no toolholders just the spindle is $3700.00. Yours looks very interesting. If the system is sub $1500.00 I would be interested. The tooling availability and price is a big part of the equation. I can buy cat 40 toolholders for my mill between $50.00-$200.00. As of now nobody sells a truly affordable system. I'd love to see yours beat that trend. I would like to hear more when videos of the toolchanger working and pricing is available. Thanks, Judleroy

blurrycustoms
11-17-2009, 05:25 PM
Hey all,

Thank you for all of the comments and interest, please send all pricing inquiries to avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com.

We have a range of pricing that we are providing through email, and we will post final pricing once we have finalized our production figures.:rainfro:

blurrycustoms
12-03-2009, 09:06 AM
Hello again, we have finalized some pricing, and will post it here first, along with more detailed specs over the next couple of days.

We will be posting general specifications, and if there are more detailed specs that you are looking for, please feel free to ask.

I will also post some info regarding a pre-order so that we can offer some discount pricing to the early birds. Look for that tomorrow. Shipments will begin at the end of January for pre-ordered spindles.

Avenger Spindle System

Regular Price: $2,095.00
Toolholders: $75.00-$105.00

-Speeds up to 25,000RPM, up to 4.25" diameter
-Dual ABEC9 angular contact bearings
-AVQS125 toolholders (Up to 1/2" shanks, ER20 collets)
-Low-runout (<0.0005")
-TiN coating on wear surfaces
-Operates on 100PSI shop pressure
-Compact, lightweight (8lbs without motor)
-Accepts motors up to 5HP
-Custom mounting options available

Give us a call or send over and email for more information on pre-orders.

avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com

http://quickspindle.com/highslide/sample-images/diag1.jpg
http://quickspindle.com/highslide/sample-images/holder1.jpg
http://quickspindle.com/highslide/sample-images/full1.jpg

blurrycustoms
12-04-2009, 10:57 AM
The Avenger spindle is regularly priced at $2,095.00, with toolholders priced $75.00 to $105.00.

Motor adapters available:
-3.5" for Bosch 1617EVS, Porter Cable 690 and 890, Dewalt DW618
-4.25" for Porter Cable 7518
-80mm
-100mm
-Please inquire for custom sizes

Toolholders available:
-Regular reach straight shank - AVQS125-500R (1/2"), AVQS125-375R (3/8"), AVQS125-250R (1/4") - $75.00
-Long reach straight shank - AVQS125-500L (1/2"), AVQS125-375L (3/8"), AVQS125-250L (1/4") - $85.00
-Regular reach ER20 - AVQS125-ER20R - $95.00
-Long reach ER20 - AVQS125-ER20L - $105.00

We are also now accepting pre-orders and will be shipping these pre-orders at the end of January. We are only accepting a limited number of pre-orders, and only pre-ordered spindles will be shipping in January.

Pre-order pricing: $1,995.00
$5.00 off toolholders

Pre-orders do require a reserve deposit of $200.00 per spindle and $15 per tool holder, and will be accepted until January 8, 2010. To pre-order simply send an email with your name, address, preferred payment method, the motor adapter required and a list of the tool holders you would like to pre-order, and we will contact you with further information.

avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com

Though pre-orders are limited, there are quantity benchmarks that we will be looking for at which point we will be reducing prices, to give everyone a chance to take advantage of quantity pricing for these preorders.


Dealers and OEMs:

We will be accepting very limited pre-orders for dealer and OEM quantities. We do have some requirements to qualify for dealer pricing, so please inquire if interested, and we can discuss these requirements and further details on our dealer and OEM programs.


Let me know if any of you have any questions.

avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com

blurrycustoms
12-04-2009, 07:09 PM
New website is now available for viewing. Construction will continue as we add information, but it is a good place to get all of the latest available details. All videos and pictures will be posted there when they become available as well.

http://www.quickspindle.com

:)

blurrycustoms
12-08-2009, 12:42 AM
Well, it's only been a few days and we have had very good response for these preorders. We have decided to increase production levels, which translates into some further discounts on these preorders:

Preorder price as of Dec. 7, 2009

$1,845.00 per spindle and $8 off tool holders

One note regarding shipping:

Increased production will be putting a strain on our shipping schedule, so we will be shipping on a first come first serve basis starting at the end of January.

Let me know if there are any questions.

the4thseal
12-08-2009, 01:39 AM
what is the news?

blurrycustoms
12-08-2009, 09:30 AM
what is the news?

news???

the4thseal
12-08-2009, 09:51 PM
i think i did not see the last couple of updates??????? i do not know why????

blurrycustoms
12-09-2009, 09:46 PM
i think i did not see the last couple of updates??????? i do not know why????

Sorry to hear that. If you want to send an email to avengerspindle@blurrycustoms.com, I can add you to the mailing list so that you get all of the updates.

Let me know if you have any more questions.

cheetahcnc
12-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Looks awesome, even the mounting system! Can we get a video sneek-peek of a tool change? You're not going to make us wait two months to see this in action are you? Just first saw this today and I'm already starting to drool...

blurrycustoms
12-09-2009, 11:00 PM
Looks awesome, even the mounting system! Can we get a video sneek-peek of a tool change? You're not going to make us wait two months to see this in action are you? Just first saw this today and I'm already starting to drool...

:rainfro: We are working on video and pics, the holidays always throw our schedules for a loop, but we will definitely have them up before the preorder deadline.

cheetahcnc
12-09-2009, 11:29 PM
:rainfro: We are working on video and pics, the holidays always throw our schedules for a loop, but we will definitely have them up before the preorder deadline.


When is the deadline?

blurrycustoms
12-09-2009, 11:30 PM
Right now it is set at January 8, 2010.

cheetahcnc
12-15-2009, 09:17 PM
http://www.cnczone.com/gallery/data/500/drool.gif Thanks for the update.

blurrycustoms
12-18-2009, 07:33 PM
Had a few poeple ask ing about the difference between the tool holders. The long toolholders provide an extra 1" of reach.

http://quickspindle.com/images/avqs toolholders1.jpg

cheetahcnc
01-02-2010, 01:27 PM
New website is now available for viewing. Construction will continue as we add information, but it is a good place to get all of the latest available details. All videos and pictures will be posted there when they become available as well.

http://www.quickspindle.com

:)

Nice site!

cheetahcnc
01-02-2010, 01:31 PM
Are these pneumatically actuated? Do you offer a tool storage rack as well?

ger21
01-02-2010, 01:35 PM
Yes, they are pneumatic. They offer aluminum forks for holding tools on their site. I'm assuming you'd have to build your own rack with their forks.

bukky633@yahoo.
02-04-2010, 05:53 AM
DO you have anything besides 3D renderings of your products?

I have been watching this for a bit and am getting doubtfull of your products offered............

blurrycustoms
02-04-2010, 11:06 AM
It is true that this product has been delayed, and we are doing everything in our power to minimize the delay. Those who have pre-ordered have, of course, been notified, and have been very gracious with their patience. We would not expect anyone to feel they had to place an order without first seeing videos and pictures, which we will continue to work diligently to provide as soon as possible.

Thank you for your interest.

stevespo
02-04-2010, 04:03 PM
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but it sure would be great to have this option for the 80mm and 100mm Chinese spindles that are becoming more and more popular. I suppose the 80mm spindles could use the PC 3.5" housing with some type of bushing.

Steve

blurrycustoms
02-05-2010, 01:08 AM
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere, but it sure would be great to have this option for the 80mm and 100mm Chinese spindles that are becoming more and more popular. I suppose the 80mm spindles could use the PC 3.5" housing with some type of bushing.

Steve

80mm and 100mm motor adapters will be available in exactly the configuration you have mentioned with bushings in two standard size adapters.

judleroy
03-02-2010, 09:44 PM
Have you started shipping the new spindle? If not what will the expected delivery date be? Thanks
Judleroy

denon99
03-13-2010, 04:14 PM
http://www.usovo.de/shop/index.php?cat=c86_Tool-Changer-Systems.html

I found some similar product for those with 43mm spindle!

eloid
03-17-2010, 09:32 PM
is there a video of your working proto type using router or chinse spindle?
it was metioned before .... proof concept would make you product
more visable.