View Full Version : New CNC drill I'm building; just about finished


Stevie
01-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Overall view of the machine; as you can see it's not quite finished; i have some wires to tidy up and I still need to move the drives under the bench etc; the drill is brand new and was just $69.99 from Home Dept
All the drives I had along with the step motors
It will become a 4 axis very soon; the normal table will be removed and more linear rails will be added below the X axis; this will allow me to cut across the job for flats etc
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/3axisdrill.jpg
Close up of the Z axis drive motor and timing belt setup; I removed the return spring for the timing gear wheel; i still need to add a spring to keep the spindle against the gear to stop backlash
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/3axisdrill-4.jpg
Close up of the C axis; this axis will rotate to the exact angle specified by the computer (note; that rotary head was the old head from the lathe before the big update)
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/3axisdrill-1.jpg
General view from the other side; note the use of muffler clamps to hold the stepper drive motor support; the motor is fastened to the Alum angle on a Lexan plate; the drives that control the step motors can be seen behind the unit; the small linear slide in front of the rotary axis will become the tail stock to hold long jobs while they are drilled
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/3axisdrill-2.jpg



What did you build today?

Stevie
01-09-2005, 09:21 PM
But will it work




Yes it works
3 rows of holes center drilled 0.5mm deep; 5mm row to row; 30dgr apart

http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/testpattern.jpg

JFettig
01-09-2005, 09:28 PM
Very nice, looks good. How rigid is a head like that for the A(or C) axis? Would it be suitable for milling? It wouldnt be all that difficult to get a mini lathe spindle and use that for a 4th axis.

Jon

balsaman
01-09-2005, 09:40 PM
What did you build it to do?

Eric

Stevie
01-09-2005, 09:50 PM
It will drill my barrels; some have flash holes in the muzzle; i need to drill them
Here is one I'm working on the prototype of the 262 barrel; remember this is the prototype; it's not the finished artical and is not up to scratch as far as my normal standards

This is the biggest cannon ever fitted to the aircraft; just one in the nose; they built 3 of them before the wars end
I'm making these for another Canadian; he's in Austria; and once I get the drilling done by CNC he will cast the resin breech onto the barrel
Scale is 1/32nd


http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/50mm-mauser.jpg
The muzzle is drilled to leave only 1/2mm wall; then a muzzle cap is pressed onto the thin shell
This shell is then drilled with many small holes; the barrel is drilled scale 50mm up inside the thin shell (about 7.5mm in)

http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/50mm-mauser-1.jpg
This is one long cannon barrel almost 100mm

http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/50mm-mauser-2.jpg
Another muzzle view

and finally no gun is of any use without rounds
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/shellssmall.jpg

After this I'll be looking to prototype a 30 mm GAU-8/A seven-barrel Gatling gun

Stevie
01-09-2005, 09:53 PM
Very nice, looks good. How rigid is a head like that for the A(or C) axis? Would it be suitable for milling? It wouldnt be all that difficult to get a mini lathe spindle and use that for a 4th axis.

Jon

That C axis is a lathe spindle; and yes it is very ridgid; the drill spindle should be good enough it's brand new; plus i open 4 boxes to chk the spindles untill i found one really tight
I'll be adding a Y axis over the next few days; the drill table will be gone then; and the 2 linear slide mounted right on the machine base; another stepper will control the Y

JFettig
01-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Those are very cool,
What I was wondering is would it hold a part while being machined, the stepper and all?
I am considering getting a rotary table, but I do not like the ones available and a spindle from a mini lathe is only about $30 and a chuck is around $40 and I can make/have the rest.

Jon

Stevie
01-09-2005, 10:01 PM
It's a 3-1 reduction with 300 oz/in hold; i think small cuts in brass with a 1/16th or 1/32nd cutter will be no problem at all

Ken_Shea
01-09-2005, 10:35 PM
As always Stevie, Impressed/envious, thanks for taking the time to share your work with the CncZone.

Ken

fyffe555
01-09-2005, 11:22 PM
Stevie,
excellent work again.. I'd like to see the finished model.. is this a flyng model?

The 'biggest cannon ever fitted to the aircraft' might be off though.. The 262 tank buster had a 50mm cannon? The DeHavilland Tsetse (Mosquito varient) had a 57mm ( six pounder molins) rapid fire cannon for killing U boats and shipping with. Weighed over 3500lbs, 18ft long and filled the entire bomb bay. Fired in a dive it would knock 100mph off the speed of the plane. The 130 gunships use a 105m cannon too..

Stevie
01-09-2005, 11:25 PM
Stevie,
excellent work again.. I'd like to see the finished model.. is this a flyng model?

The 'biggest cannon ever fitted to the aircraft' might be off though.. The 262 tank buster had a 50mm cannon? The DeHavilland Tsetse (Mosquito varient) had a 57mm ( six pounder molins) rapid fire cannon for killing U boats and shipping with. Weighed over 3500lbs, 18ft long and filled the entire bomb bay. Fired in a dive it would knock 100mph off the speed of the plane. The 130 gunships use a 105m cannon too..

I ment the ME262; i know other aiircraft had bigger

Stevie
01-10-2005, 06:14 PM
STAY TUNED; I'M GOING TO ADD A 2ND SPINDLE AS WELL AS THE FORTH AXIS

Humm caps lock

Stevie
01-11-2005, 10:16 PM
New test of the machine.
Milling this time
1/32nd cutter drill at it's top speed (3010 rpm wish it was more!)
0.5mm deep
19mm long
16 total for 360 drgs
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/TESTMILL.JPG

kinda nice

atomic
01-12-2005, 07:29 AM
hi stevie,

very nice machine...

how is the drill press chuck held on? i have been told that if the taper isn't secured with a drawbar or collar, a large enough side load could cause the chuck to come loose and chase you around your shop.

please, keep the pictures coming!

Stevie
01-12-2005, 04:56 PM
It's just a taper; remember this machine will just take small cuts in brass

Stevie
01-12-2005, 06:50 PM
Another test cut tonight; spiral cutting
8mm brass 3.1mm cutter 1.5mm deep 4 rotations to a dead stop and retract
Cuts at every 0.25mm last cut 0.05mm

http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/TESTMILL1.jpg

Stevie
01-16-2005, 02:04 PM
The heart of the system
These are listed in order from left to right all are compumotor drives Zeta4 - S6 - 2XAL
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis.jpg
General view of the machine in the 3 axis vice mode (the 4th rotational axis is behind it on the bench top) the new stepper motor to move the job in and out is sitting out front; the linear slides are screwed to the base of the machine
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-1.jpg
Similar view of the opp side; when I get chance the 1 stack will be replaced with another 2 stacker
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-2.jpg
Close up of the new axis; the linear rails are mounted right on the base here; but I also made 1" tall spacers to allow me to move the vice or rotary axis closer to the spindle
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-3.jpg

Stevie
01-16-2005, 02:05 PM
As we can only post a small number of images per
Here is the rest of the new setup

Alum 1/2" tall spacer added below the head support; this is just temp for a special job it will be removed after the job; but I'll keep it just in case it's needed again
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-4.jpg
Here the new spring loading can be seen; this is to control the cut in the Z axis; if the spring keeps the gear driving the spindle down against the flank of the teeth; the backlash is eleminated; the sandblasted mounting around the spindle I also made as the original was plastic
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-5.jpg
Well so for so good; the drives are all working; the next thing is to try to cut something with all 3 axis

balsaman
01-16-2005, 03:27 PM
I am impressed.

Eric

Stevie
01-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Hi Eric

Thanks; it means a lot when someone here says something nice about your work

Stevie
01-16-2005, 05:42 PM
The question was again will it work

Hunk of scrap alum; sorry about the saw cut face; i just grabbed it
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-6.jpg

It's actually cutting here at 3000rpm 3/32nd carbide cutter 0.05" deep per pass 3 passes x+1 y+1 from x-y 0

http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4thaxis-7.jpg

Not bad; not fast also but hey I have tme

arvidb
01-17-2005, 05:13 AM
Really cool machine! Thanks for showing!

Arvid

WayneHill
01-17-2005, 12:09 PM
Hi,

Nice job on the conversion. I noticed an orientation problem with the ball screw nut. The ball run tube should be located on top or the side.

Ref : http://www.nookind.com/pdf/powertrac1.pdf page 5

Wayne

Stevie
01-17-2005, 12:13 PM
I placed it under because I wanted the oil to stay in there; and keep thing lubed
It would be easy to change though

Stevie
01-19-2005, 10:46 AM
Final update on the new machine

Overall view Left hand side
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axis-1c.jpg
Overall view Right hand side
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axis-1cr.jpg
wiring on drives cleaned up; love that flex covering
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axisp.jpg
Close up of the new tail stock; note linear slide with lock (that bolt will do for now; need a thumb screw)
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axist.jpg

see the next for the rest

Stevie
01-19-2005, 10:47 AM
Vise mode in this config; vice is nicely positioned by the linear and the collet face (I still have the lower config under that 1/2 alum plate that the 4th axis mounts to)
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axisv.jpg
Overall view of the workspace
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axisw.jpg
Opp side view
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/4axis.jpg

Well thats it for this project

On to the new build; this one will be exciting

HomeCNC
01-19-2005, 11:31 AM
Very nice looking shop!

Stevie
01-19-2005, 01:46 PM
Final version of the 50mm Mauser; the machine did the holes in 4mins some odd secs

Thanks HomeCNC

pminmo
01-19-2005, 05:04 PM
Ok I'm jealous, how do you keep such a nice CLEAN shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil

arvidb
01-19-2005, 05:22 PM
Your workmanship is just incredible! Nice work & hat off to you! It'll be a real treat to follow your new more detailed thread.

Arvid

Stevie
01-19-2005, 05:25 PM
Ok I'm jealous, how do you keep such a nice CLEAN shop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Phil
And can you believe it i can still park in
The truck is a D/Dakota extend cab; fits by just 3 inches

Dan S
01-19-2005, 10:06 PM
3 inches is pretty close, are you using the tennis ball hanging from the ceiling trick?

And can you believe it i can still park in
The truck is a D/Dakota extend cab; fits by just 3 inches

Stevie
01-19-2005, 10:09 PM
Nope
I just sit exactly the same as i reverse in; once I see the edge of the storage locker hit the corner of the windsheild i stop and hit the down button; if it flashes I go just a smiggin more (LOL) I hit the bench just once and not hard

Hobbiest
01-20-2005, 03:40 AM
When I worked for Pacific Bell, we would back the bucket trucks up to the poles...when you hit the pole, it meant stop! Love your work Stevie.

Bloy2004
01-20-2005, 10:18 AM
Hi Stevie,
I've been watching ..... and enjoying!!!

Stevie
01-22-2005, 10:51 AM
I found a small problem yesterday
I needed to make a drill jig for a new product
Well the base support for Y cuts is too narrow; the 2 25mm trucks just don't have the length needed; i got quite a bit of vibration on milling
Drilling is super; but side loads are not well covered

So the solution
I had to add the 1" riser blocks anyway today for a production run of the big Mauser barrels
at the same time I'll add a 3/8" alum plate under the blocks and this wil carry another linear slide 8" long SR25V single truck; might be on an angle to set it out behind and under the C axis; this will spread the Y loads and also help support the weight of the big stepper hanging out there

trubleshtr
01-22-2005, 08:24 PM
nice machine, Is the z axis gear mounted to where the old manual handle was?

Stevie
01-22-2005, 08:36 PM
Opp Side; The Return Spring Is Removed

Stevie
01-23-2005, 09:36 AM
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/1inch.jpg
Here are the 1" tall risers and the 3/8" added plate for the mounting of the alum angles for the SR25V rail
you can see under the angle the 25mm SR rail i added (kind of see it anyway)
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/angles.jpg
Rear of the machine (tough to photo) the 2 angles are quite far back; this gives and effective rail support length of 7 inchs to the Y axis; all the rock is now gone; the orginal setup was only 1 1/4" effective length
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/angles-1.jpg
Front view; not much to get in the way here; you can see the 3/8 plate sticking out this shelf just might come in handy one day; i just could not bring my self to cut it off (I love reusing old parts; you can tell by all the unused holes)
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/newlight.jpg
Added the first halogen light; another will be mounted rear of this in the space between the head support and the spindle
I also added a good muffin fan on the side of the belt cover base; this cools the main spindle motor (gets qiute hot after 1 hour running)

Stevie
01-23-2005, 11:05 AM
Yes for those wondering; the light is mounted to a Dial base with the dial attachments; must have 15 in my toolbox; finally found a use

Stevie
01-23-2005, 01:45 PM
You just cant have enough light I say
I thought well 2 is good; 3 would be better; 2 X 20watt and 1 X10watt halogen
I wired to the hot side of the motor switch; the fan is wired to the off side; so when I switch on the Stepper Drives; the lights come on; when i turn the spindle on the cooling fan comes on
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/lights.jpg

The motor cooling fan; I simply Hot glued the grill on; might keep a finger out one day
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/fan.jpg

java77man
05-13-2007, 07:35 PM
To anyone:

I am adding this thread to my CNC Collection files burned on CD.
Would anyone have some of the missing pictures, would love to
get a copy if possible, even a single picture.

Thanks,
java77man