Actually not a problem but a solution. After waaaay too much hair pulling and headbanging with three different versions of this software the old ball and chain told me to go ahead and buy a seat of oneCNC mill advantage and quit yer b*tching! WOOHOOOO!

Hi robard,

Welcome to ONECNC!

Don't forget to vist the private ONECNC forum after you register your product. They have an excellent users group that will be glad to help you along the way. Some really super guys that know the product. They even have some training videos on different items. ONECNC West also has some nice training videos on-line for the XR3 product. http://onecncwest.com/general/new_evaluation.htm


I am a hobbyist machinist and also have the ONECNC XR3 Mill Advantage Product and use it on my HAAS TM-1P 3 axis CNC toolroom mill.

See you on the forum. I am JC on the ONECNC forum.

John

Hey John,
Look forward to joining oneCNC forum. I also have TM-1.

In retrospect my post was inapropriate..I am just a frustrated Bcad ex-customer. Bobcad has it's place as an inexpensive cad/cam package..just that it did not deliver as advertised. I know many bcad users are not in a position to purchase higher end software. I am fortunate that I could afford to switch. If Bcad delivered a product in V.22 (I have owned V.18-V.20) that functioned as promised I would have had no desire to look elsewhere. I became jaded when Bcad did not offer free upgrades to the buyers of the poorly performing V.22 I felt the need to take my business elsewhere. I hope that Bcad can sort out their PR issues and deliver a product that works reliably in spite of my experience. There is definitely a market for their price range of product but they shouldn't promise a Cadillac and deliver a Yugo! I understand V.23 is a vast improvement over V.22 but it is too late for this previous customer. I wish only success for the company and the users of their product. Again, I am sorry for my opening post as it was made in anger.

R Ardoin

Hi robard,

Welcome to ONECNC!

Don't forget to vist the private ONECNC forum after you register your product. They have an excellent users group that will be glad to help you along the way.
John

Hi John,
Dont forget to visit the OneCNC forum in CNCZone and help answer the questions and problems that the OneCNC users have.

We all know they exist in BOTH softwares.

Good luck Robard, glad you could upgrade. (wrong)

Burr

I have XR3 Professional what problems are they having.

John

Burr

I have XR3 Professional what problems are they having.

John

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=570040&postcount=1

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=532295&postcount=1

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=124552&postcount=1

You can read a few if you like. This was about 45 seconds of looking.

The point isnt that OneCNC is Bad, the point is that "ALL" software will have it's issues and need to be run properley to get results. There is not a single forum for cad software, all the way up to the 75,000 dollar range, that doesnt have the same "uninformed" posts in it.

People even want to blame "Vista" because their video card wont run on it....

I've run OneCNC and it is good software. The only thing is the price has jumped over the last few years. I am not sure of the current prices but I am sure they are out of reach for me at this time.

What did you pay for the OneCNC package and what did you get?

XR3 mill advantage..includes full 3-d toolpaths, no 4th axis $3500 no negotiations on price except I demanded a free day of training.

R Ardoin

How much for the 4th axis and lathe and an extra seat for both? And what is the upgrade price for the next version?

Allen123,

Don't you work for Bobcad??:rolleyes:

Dont think Allen does, but Burrman does.

Dont think Allen does, but Burrman does.

Incorrect. I do not. :nono:

How do you know if you work for Bobcad….. You never post after 5:00 pm. :)

John

10.10 pm here! :)

Time means nothing. What I wanna know is, 125 posts and every single one in the bobcad forum. Seems a bit fishy. ;) And also, never one question asked, always answering questions.

Time means nothing. What I wanna know is, 125 posts and every single one in the bobcad forum. Seems a bit fishy. ;) And also, never one question asked, always answering questions.

I only have BobCad software! Why would I go into MC or something else?

Actually, I did venture into the OneCNC forum to look at responses, and posted in regards to someone trying to make a solid out of their Polymesh object. Someone told them it cant be done and I made a solid from his object and posted it back for him. (seems I only helped that guy)

I learn the software from participating in these forums. I have no one to mentor so participating in all the issues helps me. If someone posts an issue, I work through it. If I have an answer, I dont keep it a secret.

Seems most of the "hairpulling" is "Operator error".

No worries. Which version of bobcad did you start off with?

No worries. Which version of bobcad did you start off with?

My brother started with V21. I started with V22.

Actually not a problem but a solution. After waaaay too much hair pulling and headbanging with three different versions of this software the old ball and chain told me to go ahead and buy a seat of oneCNC mill advantage and quit yer b*tching! WOOHOOOO!

My better half said the same thing last year. She is definitely a keeper;).
Good Luck on your new adventure:)

Well maybe this is great news. Maybe since we have the OneCNC guy's in here they could visit this thread:

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=565494&postcount=126

And give us OneCNC's take on the files. Always willing to learn here.

By the way, dont skip to the end where BobCad provides the answer! :)

By the way, dont skip to the end where BobCad provides the answer! :)

What answer?? Is BobCad using never before used Technology?

This could get very interesting. Would you mind if the MC guys were invited to read this answer? I am sure everyone could use this valuable information.

Always willing to learn more over here too.

BTW: Do you work for BobCad??

Hi Toby,
I do not work for BobCad. I posted this a couple threads back. Almost seemed like I was called a lier.

The answer I was refering to was posted as a change in the geometry by someone that I think "IS" a bobcad employee. Anyone can read it and should as it is "Valuable input".

No I dont mind MC guy's coming in here and participating. Especially if they would like to provide "valuable input"! Probably alot of those guy's are pretty good machinists. I am always interested in "Valuable Input".

Hi Toby,
I do not work for BobCad. I posted this a couple threads back. Almost seemed like I was called a lier.

The answer I was refering to was posted as a change in the geometry by someone that I think "IS" a bobcad employee. Anyone can read it and should as it is "Valuable input".

No I dont mind MC guy's coming in here and participating. Especially if they would like to provide "valuable input"! Probably alot of those guy's are pretty good machinists. I am always interested in "Valuable Input".

I had that problem more than once but that thankfully was put to rest. It was asked simply out of curiosity.

Unless it is PLM or Parametric I don't really see any advantage.

Hi Toby,
I do not work for BobCad. I posted this a couple threads back. Almost seemed like I was called a lier.

BurrMan don't let Toby get to you...he is one of the guys that thinks he is a big time programer and is just a machine operator....He does not even have V23....

HMB looks to me as if you are just trying to start trouble. Were you trying to answer a question or just butt in to start ruckus?

BurrMan don't let Toby get to you...he is one of the guys that thinks he is a big time programer and is just a machine operator....He does not even have V23....

Machine Operators do not make things like this Mike. Your Trolling again Lakeside.:)

You have been like this ever since you bought a hobby mill. Why do you waste your time doing this? Is this because I'm not crying about the $1600 I lost on the V22 Purchase?? To me every cloud has a silver lining and the glass is at least half full.

BTW; good luck with your V23.

harley4ever, don't waste your typing to Mike. He has always been like this and won't change.

Sticks and Stones you know. Some people have nothing better to do with their time as it would seem.

Well maybe this is great news. Maybe since we have the OneCNC guy's in here they could visit this thread:

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=565494&postcount=126

And give us OneCNC's take on the files. Always willing to learn here.

By the way, dont skip to the end where BobCad provides the answer! :)

In OneCNC, you can import an stl mesh file and machine it. But there is no way to make the stl into a solid model in OneCNC, because, I suppose, doing so requires accurate data about surface boundaries which the stl does not contain except in the form of each triangle. You'd need different algorithms to convert stl into some sort of a solid, and even then it would only be a guesstimate of the original model's true design. OneCNC makes no apologies for being a NURBS based surface modeller, because that is part and parcel of their development intentions.

Is this because I'm not crying about the $1600 I lost on the V22 Purchase??


If you paid $1600 for V22 then your a bigger fool than I thought...
The Tormach is not a hobbie mill...just a small mill...Last year I made over and reported $65K of of a $12k investment....in the last 3 years I have made over $100K with the machine in my spare time...attached photo is of the new softshell helmet Carbon fiber for militry use...prototype machining by me...that not a job for a hobbies....

In OneCNC, you can import an stl mesh file and machine it. But there is no way to make the stl into a solid model in OneCNC, because, I suppose, doing so requires accurate data about surface boundaries which the stl does not contain except in the form of each triangle. You'd need different algorithms to convert stl into some sort of a solid, and even then it would only be a guesstimate of the original model's true design. OneCNC makes no apologies for being a NURBS based surface modeller, because that is part and parcel of their development intentions.

I have always been watching OneCNC. I do like what they have to offer, but never actually seen it in action. Due to the ease in doctoring videos and slides these days it makes decisions harder.

Hu,

If there is anything you can send me about OneCNC fire it over here. I know you can be trusted rather than a saleman.

Cheers!!!:)

If you paid $1600 for V22 then your a bigger fool than I thought...
The Tormach is not a hobbie mill...just a small mill...Last year I made over and reported $65K of of a $12k investment....in the last 3 years I have made over $100K with the machine in my spare time...attached photo is of the new softshell helmet Carbon fiber for militry use...prototype machining by me...that not a job for a hobbies....

If your making that kind of money why aren't you buying different software and a different mill instead of bobcad and a tormach? That doesn't make sense.

This is the point and case.
Because you feel bad you poke at and bother others to try to make them feel bad too.:confused:

This is not a very positive thread.

You will find that wall every time with a poor attitude. No one even bothers you but you feel inclined to harass others in a simple quiet thread??

So what are you really trying to prove??:confused:

In OneCNC, you can import an stl mesh file and machine it. But there is no way to make the stl into a solid model in OneCNC, because, I suppose, doing so requires accurate data about surface boundaries which the stl does not contain except in the form of each triangle. You'd need different algorithms to convert stl into some sort of a solid, and even then it would only be a guesstimate of the original model's true design. OneCNC makes no apologies for being a NURBS based surface modeller, because that is part and parcel of their development intentions.

?????
Did you read the thread??? I dont think so as this response has nothing to do with anything posted in the thread link.

Because you feel bad you poke at and bother others to try to make them feel bad too.:confused:

This is not a very positive thread.

You will find that wall every time with a poor attitude. No one even bothers you but you feel inclined to harass others in a simple quiet thread??

So what are you really trying to prove??:confused:

Here here. I second that! Only its not directed at Mike.

This was the entire start of the thread. and it wasnt Mike that started it.

If you want to discuss OneCNC, why not go into the OneCNC forum? (wrong)

Actually Burrman, the original poster did move into the Onecnc thread shortly after posting here.

?????
Did you read the thread??? I dont think so as this response has nothing to do with anything posted in the thread link.

Burrman,
The links you posted came up as single posts, and it was difficult to tell what thread they came from. I searched and that seemed like the best match. Maybe you can post a link to the entire thread that you are referring to?

Yeah I saw that Harley, and he posted a bit of regret for "Venting". I was a little miffed that the OneCNC salesman then followed in with his speel.

He should be in the OneCNC forum welcoming the new user over there. (And of course, helping their users who have problems)

I agree but, who is the OneCNC salesman. I'm a bit lost. Is Huflungdung a onecnc sales guy?

Here here. I second that! Only its not directed at Mike.

This was the entire start of the thread. and it wasnt Mike that started it.

If you want to discuss OneCNC, why not go into the OneCNC forum? (wrong)

Hmmmm....... Well, I guess there is no excuse for being Off Topic. There are so many threads on this site it is easy to post in the wrong area.

My apologies to BurrMan and the Thread Starter.:)

I agree but, who is the OneCNC salesman. I'm a bit lost. Is Huflungdung a onecnc sales guy?

I don't think HU is a Salesman. He used other software a long time ago and Owns a Machine Shop I think.:)

Sorry Off Topic Again.(wrong)

Burrman,
The links you posted came up as single posts, and it was difficult to tell what thread they came from. I searched and that seemed like the best match. Maybe you can post a link to the entire thread that you are referring to?

The link contains the file that was the users question. IN the upper right corner of the single thread is a link to the entire 16 page thread if you want to review. but not pertinent to the eventual thread and the valuable input that it contained.

Well, seems like people dont actually even read the content.

Very obvious who the salesman was. Nobody said huflung was.

Seems as though the only intent is to keep the thread degraded to something useless?

I think huflung is making a valid attempt to participate. We'll see.

The link contains the file that was the users question. IN the upper right corner of the single thread is a link to the entire 16 page thread if you want to review. but not pertinent to the eventual thread and the valuable input that it contained.

Thanks for the Info BurrMan.:)

The link contains the file that was the users question. IN the upper right corner of the single thread is a link to the entire 16 page thread if you want to review. but not pertinent to the eventual thread and the valuable input that it contained.


Okay, thanks for the info. No, that was not the thread I thought you were referring to, but rather another one in the OneCNC forum which I thought you thought someone needed an answer to. Sorry for the confusion. This thread is now officially proclaimed to be a mess :D

This thread is now officially proclaimed to be a mess :D

Hmmmm...... You know, your right Hu, it is a mess.:)

In the future, lets try to be productive in "Both forums". If you have something that you "THINK" is of help to somebody in either forum, by all means. Isnt that what a "User Forum" is about.

As the longtime forum users should agree.....

but rather another one in the OneCNC forum which I thought you thought someone needed an answer to.

Well, the guy did ask the question. I merely corrected an incorrect reply. did you read that thread?

Well, the guy did ask the question. I merely corrected an incorrect reply. did you read that thread?

Yes, that is the one, and I copied my post from this thread over into that thread, for the sake of clarity.

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66569

In the future, lets try to be productive in "Both forums". If you have something that you "THINK" is of help to somebody in either forum, by all means. Isnt that what a "User Forum" is about.

As the longtime forum users should agree.....

Not to correct anyone, and no pun intended, but BobCad has a user forum of their own. This is a Sub-Forum on CNC Zone.

And Yes BurrMan I agree with you about this being a Help Forum. It should be Helpful in every way.

Unfortunately there are others that like to Troll for what ever reasons they have. I just simply asked you a question, and gave a simple example of a previous project to another person in the wrong Thread.

For that I apologized to you and the original thread starter. Believe that everyone wants to see positive posts but others have a different view and objective.

Cheers BurrMan:cheers: