Hey guys I am new to bobcad and cam programming I have solidworks 2008 and have saved my part as an XT file and every time I open it in bobcad v22 I get an error and bobcad shuts down? I do have the latest build of v22 what do I do?

".sldprt" is BobCads Solidworks importer. Not familiar with solidworks so dont know what an XT file is. Maybe someone else?

Bueller.....Bueller?

".sldprt" is BobCads Solidworks importer. Not familiar with solidworks so dont know what an XT file is. Maybe someone else?

Bueller.....Bueller?

Ok I just exported it as an iges file and was able to open it up now having trouble with tool paths alot of inside pockest with holes 4th axis out or round stock but I am just indexing this part my problem is getting a tool path that will work it needs to go from the end of the part and finish this part in 1/2" at a time in full because it sticks out of the 4th 5 inches I am useing a 1/2" cutter the stock is 2" round the part is 3/4" tall but the first milling is 1.25 from top of stock it is an offset part kind of like a z____ shape. When I run the tool path the entire system shuts down?

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Hey guys I am new to bobcad and cam programming I have solidworks 2008 and have saved my part as an XT file and every time I open it in bobcad v22 I get an error and bobcad shuts down? I do have the latest build of v22 what do I do?

I have the best luck with .sat files from SW into v22. Large files load quickly.
Don't know about v23.

Good luck,
moldmker

I have the best luck with .sat files from SW into v22. Large files load quickly.
Don't know about v23.

Good luck,
moldmker

Doesnt V22 import solidworks files???

For Coolster, can you post a file to help explain? It's kindof hard from a forum description.

Burr

Doesnt V22 import solidworks files???

For Coolster, can you post a file to help explain? It's kindof hard from a forum description.

Burr

Had no problem opening an iges file but everyother time I try a new tool path it shuts down? The entire software shuts down? I am calling bobcad today I have to get this working it is going to put me in a crunch if i dont get this part running within a few days. I will try to post the file tionight.

Doesnt V22 import solidworks files???.....

Yes, but if the model is complicated it takes a long time to load. Some I've aborted after 30 mins.
Convert it to .sat and it loads in 5 secs.
(my observation on my system, never confirmed on other systems)

Also, SW has different Configurations that can be applied to it's model. This is an engineering tool that allows a model to be configured in different states, such as: with or without holes (or just a certain hole), castings "as cast" and "as machined", sheetmetal parts "as bent" and "flat pattern", etc.
When you import a .sldprt into BC there's no opportunity to select which Configuration you want, so you get them all combined in one model.
Save it as a dumb solid (.sat, .igs, .stp) and it saves as the current config.

I got burnt once by a hole pattern mix-up, I don't chance it anymore.
If you're getting SW models from customers without prints, you may want to get SW's free viewer called eDrawings so you can verify model configurations.

moldmker

Yes, but if the model is complicated it takes a long time to load. Some I've aborted after 30 mins.
Convert it to .sat and it loads in 5 secs.
(my observation on my system, never confirmed on other systems)

Also, SW has different Configurations that can be applied to it's model. This is an engineering tool that allows a model to be configured in different states, such as: with or without holes (or just a certain hole), castings "as cast" and "as machined", sheetmetal parts "as bent" and "flat pattern", etc.
When you import a .sldprt into BC there's no opportunity to select which Configuration you want, so you get them all combined in one model.
Save it as a dumb solid (.sat, .igs, .stp) and it saves as the current config.

I got burnt once by a hole pattern mix-up, I don't chance it anymore.
If you're getting SW models from customers without prints, you may want to get SW's free viewer called eDrawings so you can verify model configurations.

moldmker

I own solidworks 2008 my work keeps me on it. I have saved it as an ides file and bobcad opened it up fine it looked fine I did some tool paths but 90% of the time bobcad will shut down or freeze with no responce when I try to make a tool path?

Can you post a sample .igs file for us to look at?
Make sure it's one that gives your system trouble, then we can isolate whether it's the file or your system.

I use SW 2007 into v22 with minimal problems.

moldmker

OIC,
Thanks for taking the time to edu me!

Burr

Would like to see if the file crashes my computer.

OIC,
Thanks for taking the time to edu me!

Burr

Would like to see if the file crashes my computer.

The file is to big to upload. 1.45 MB (1,530,940 bytes) The computer is not crashing the software is I am on a computer that can handle it with not even a thought.

The file is to big to upload. 1.45 MB (1,530,940 bytes) The computer is not crashing the software is I am on a computer that can handle it with not even a thought.

Try zip the file. Right click it and choose "send to" compressed zip archive. See if it fits then.

Thats what I meant, to see if it crashes my BobCad, not that I may have a better computer than you. :) That can start to narrow it down.

Burr

Try zip the file. Right click it and choose "send to" compressed zip archive. See if it fits then.

Thats what I meant, to see if it crashes my BobCad, not that I may have a better computer than you. :) That can start to narrow it down.

Burr

Ok here try this one.

well I was able to do a 3D path...did you look at your task manger and it said....Bobcad not responding...it will always say that...if you look at the process page you can see the CPU is working...unles you get a message that says Bobcad has encounter a promblem and needs to close...then wait untill the CPU is done doing it's thing...sometime it takes a few minutes...I think it took like 5 to process this jpeg on my system...I did stitch model together to genorate code...I should add the fact that I did this in V23 not V22

Here's a simple v22 path. Seems OK.
There are 2 untrimmed fillets at one end of the part.
Sometimes, other file formats work better.

moldmker

75392

Ok here try this one.

Darn that Mike is quick! Although I just selected make one solid on import and didnt have to stitch it! :)

It opened for mre also Coolster (V22), so I would start to look at your system first.

Mostley, make syure you have the latest drivers for your vid card. Do you have an NVidia perhaps? 7800 or something like that?

75393

Darn that Mike is quick!

I'm not called Two Pump Mike for no reason...

.IGS files always has something missing I always try and use .STP files.

John

.IGS files always has something missing I always try and use .STP files.

John

I will try again tomorrow. But yeah it was the Bobcad has encounter a promblem and needs to close thing. I will try updates on everything.

Just tried to update video card it is up to date. so it is not that.

Here's a simple v22 path. Seems OK.
There are 2 untrimmed fillets at one end of the part.
Sometimes, other file formats work better.

moldmker

75392

I just could not get v22 to make the tool path only wanted to make the pocket path with an 1/8 standard endmill.

if all you want to do is the pocket path then extra the edges of pocket and program as a 2D file...go to utilty-extra edges

if all you want to do is the pocket path then extra the edges of pocket and program as a 2D file...go to utilty-extra edges

No I do want to cut the entire part out of a round stock 2" on my 4th axis by indexing it around. I just want to make seperate paths.

you can make it any way you want...But if your just looking for a pocket program don't try and do a 3D path...extra the edges and program the pocket in 2d

No I do want to cut the entire part out of a round stock 2" on my 4th axis by indexing it around. I just want to make seperate paths.

One thing to keep in mind.
You can't rotate the UCS out of the XY plane and produce a toolpath.
You will need to rotate/copy the model relative to the UCS. (maybe make a separate layer for each orientation.)

I may be wrong about this, if so, please someone jump in and correct me.

moldmker

If your just using the edges...your ucs is not an issue as bobcad will not care on a 2D file for a pocket path...But if you use the model then yes Moldman is correct you're going to have to rotate part...I did not look that close at the file but it looked like the pockets could be done in 2D

One thing to keep in mind.
You can't rotate the UCS out of the XY plane and produce a toolpath.
You will need to rotate/copy the model relative to the UCS. (maybe make a separate layer for each orientation.)

I may be wrong about this, if so, please someone jump in and correct me.

moldmker


In version 23 there is a new tab in your feature called "Posting" and in that dialogue is an "Output Rotary angle" option.

If you want to index a part you use this. If you select cylindrical stock, the whole system outputs the x or y value as "a".

To just do single rotations for each feature, use the Posting dialogue which will rotate the rotary axis to that value just for that feature.

The 2d operations are much quicker and more efficient than the 3d ones when they can accomplish the same thing.

In version 23 there is a new tab in your feature called "Posting" and in that dialogue is an "Output Rotary angle" option.

If you want to index a part you use this. If you select cylindrical stock, the whole system outputs the x or y value as "a".

To just do single rotations for each feature, use the Posting dialogue which will rotate the rotary axis to that value just for that feature.

The 2d operations are much quicker and more efficient than the 3d ones when they can accomplish the same thing.

Ooops! I forgot this was in regards to V22. Dont take offense, My apologies.
Please disregard.

Burr

Ooops! I forgot this was in regards to V22. Dont take offense, My apologies.
Please disregard.

Burr

So v23 is much better? Doest it have an problem like I am haveing with the software shutting down? Unexpected error?

So v23 is much better? Doest it have an problem like I am haveing with the software shutting down? Unexpected error?

I dont know that I would approach it that way. I have had good experience with V22 also. V23 has many added features (Like the rotary I was talking about earlier).

If you are having some kind of issues with the operation of your V22, dont be scared to post specifics and figure it out with the help of others. Many users with much combined experience.

Keeping up with the software wont be a bad thing. IMO, It's headed in the right direction.

Burr

I dont know that I would approach it that way. I have had good experience with V22 also. V23 has many added features (Like the rotary I was talking about earlier).

If you are having some kind of issues with the operation of your V22, dont be scared to post specifics and figure it out with the help of others. Many users with much combined experience.

Keeping up with the software wont be a bad thing. IMO, It's headed in the right direction.

Burr

I would say my biggest problem is the unexpected error and the software then shutting down that is very frustrating. I do alot of parts but now I have been getting more and more 4th axis work what would be my best move right now?

BobCAD V22 Will open SLDPRT files for Solidworks V 2008 or earlier

BobCAD V23 Will open SLDPRT file for Solidworks V2009 or earlier. ( only if you download the new build that was just posted )


If you are trying to open a SLDPRT file in BobCAD and it wont open check to see if your Solidworks drawing has a suppressed feature in the tree. This will most likely cause a problem.

Dxf for 2D/ 3D wire frame

Iges is the best translator for trimmed surface files

Step is the best translator for Solid models.

2D machining in BobCAD is done with wire frame ( drilling, pockets, profiles, ect )

If you are cutting a 2D part from a solid follow these steps.


#1

Create a new layer and make it active

#2

Extract the wire frame for the pockets or profiles you want to cut. ( in most cases this would be based on 1 or 2 faces - surfaces - )

#3

Turn off the solid layer so you are only looking at the wire frame

#4

Create machining features in the Job tree to cut your part .


If you are working on 3D parts or machining you need to zero your part, not just for X Y but for Z.

3D machining is based on the surfaces or solids directly. You may need to create some 2D / 3D wire frame boundaries control where the tool will cut or not cut.

Create your machining features in the job tree and cut your part.


If your software is talking along time to calculate it is either based on the setting your are using for the feature ( very small step over ect ) or you are calculating a lot of moves ( Z level and equi distant take the longest )

You may need to step away for the software for a bit. Take a smoke go get a coffee or flirt with one of the girls in the office.

Any way even if the screen turns white or what have you don't just click your mouse on the screen multiple time ( not going to help will cause almost any system to crash windows error based on too much mouse clicks )


It after what seems like too long the software isn't done calculating one of 2 problems.

You need more memory on your computer ram video processor

or you have an issue with your model or settings for cutting.

All systems take time to process even the really expensive ones. So just chill and wait.

In version 23 there is a new tab in your feature called "Posting" and in that dialogue is an "Output Rotary angle" option.

If you want to index a part you use this. If you select cylindrical stock, the whole system outputs the x or y value as "a".

To just do single rotations for each feature, use the Posting dialogue which will rotate the rotary axis to that value just for that feature.

The 2d operations are much quicker and more efficient than the 3d ones when they can accomplish the same thing.

You only need to setup cylindrical stock for wrapping.

If you want to out put an A or B index that can be done at any time in the posting section of any 2D machining feature.

As long as your post supports it, you will get that index code in your program.

Also the UCS and 4th axis.

You can snap the UCS to the face of a part for an automatic insert of the rotation needed for that face to be at zero.

No you would not use the UCS for an in " car position " to set zero


If you zero your part and you want to find out / post the rotation move to have the "indexed face " to be perpendicular to the Z BobCAD will do this.

It's really cool but you do have to try it a few times to get or set the XY in the right place. You use a 3 point snap and the first point is X I think, where I always through it was the 3rd point that was X

Ok I don't have this just right, I need to work on my post more and I am a little unsure about where I reset the Zero to on the face for the index, but take a look this is what I got.





Zero part for round stock


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/damjuice/4th2.jpg

2D wire frame for profile cutting


http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/damjuice/4th3.jpg

Tool path preview

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/damjuice/4th4.jpg

New UCS for the face that you want to be at zero. ( it's shown in blue )

http://i564.photobucket.com/albums/ss86/damjuice/4th5.jpg

Different view of tool path




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I would say my biggest problem is the unexpected error and the software then shutting down that is very frustrating. I do alot of parts but now I have been getting more and more 4th axis work what would be my best move right now?

Hi Coolster,

An error like that should be able to get worked out. If you would like to get specific and try to put some time on it, then maybe we can eliminate that for you.

We are using V23 for the 4th axis stuff and are liking it. "I" will keep up with BobCad. It works for what we do.

The only enexpected stops with V22 I could never figure out was when jumping in and out of Verify. Quiting Verify haphazardly could craqsh the app.
Adhering to a couple principles seems to keep this at bay for us. "When doing a verfy, dont just go to "End". Hit stop, then restart and wait for program to become ready again, then END.

If you want to post some specifics maybe some here has some input.

Burr