In going from NX4 to NX5, I was greeted by the usual worthless eye candy, renamed functions and a few added, buried, and somewhat helpful features for problems that I had already found workarounds in my 12+ years of using Unigraphics. Typical upgrade stuff, rarely anything you need and a period of re-adjustment to simply get back to where you left off with the previous version.
Until I tried using one of my Cam template files. I rough mill a hemispherical cup, around 2" in dia, using a spiral drive pattern, with a helical engage. I use about 60% of the tool, and a 3 degree helical angle on a 1/2" Carbide endmill on Titanium. I drive this right into the center of the cup and use a real tight spiral to climb mill back up and out the sides of the cup. I then follow with a semi finish and finish operation in similar fashion, leaving what looks like a high finish spherical bore.
In switching from NX4 to NX5, this simply goes away and becomes a plunge.
If you take the generic file I upload and replay it in 5, it looks ok, the minute you regenerate is it disappears. I will include the text of the eventual final response to my IR 6068970, but my question is... Who makes these decisions to exclude previous working and useful functions in the next upgrade? Does this person or people ever have to go out and run any of these programs their software generates? Do they really know what they are doing? It seems to me so often that your menus include so many options that step on each other you spend more of your time flipping around that you do getting things done.
My productivity has been cut in half since NX5 and is slowly getting back to where it was. How do you justify taking something that was automated and adding 5 more useless mouse clicks to it just to say you've added functionality?
I can only shudder at the thought of going to NX6. I better just delete all my template files and start over with a new set of workarounds, so I do not Crash my Mikron UPC600 Vario.
Here's the ultimate reason for my ire.....................

Dear Ted,

Our NX development team has investigated PR Number 6068970 and have the following initial response:

The option of a degouged helical engage is not supported following the Non Cut Moves re-design in NX5. It's future inclusion is being considered by product management.

If you would like to discuss this further, please call GTAC at 1-800-955-0000 and select the appropriate support group. If you wish, the representative will connect you with the appropriate development supervisor, Manish Patel.


Sincerely,



The Global Technical Access Center Team

I will be calling..............................................

I have heard that NX5 is not so great...
NX6 is better, so be assured you won't regreat this upgrade. A lot of us share your frustration at climbing the learning curve again. Be patient you will get up to speed. "Resistance is futile" I hear...

Locutus of Borg

Don't go to 5 head for 6, NX6, beside it use the Synchronous Technology eventually you have to go up any way!

Don't go to 5 head for 6, NX6, beside it use the Synchronous Technology eventually you have to go up any way!

NX4 to NX5 is a worthless move. Head for Nx6.

Although I prefer to stay at NX4.

:) Why do you say that , blmmdes ? I'm having to train with NX5 . Don't have a choice. Only curious why .

Harold C.

All in all there still seems to be no getting away from the ridiculous perceived need to upgrade something that works well to begin with.

So what the heck is "Synchronous Technology"?

I would assume it's just more garbage that is going to get in between me and getting code into the machine.

And then there's the edge versus curve thing-a-ma-roo.

A curve is not an edge! Why would I want to chain or project an edge....

sorry ...(wrong) ...just venting hahahah ...titter titter:cheers:

Hi Mongo, hope you are not on the aggro train! and feeling well today.
Synchronous Technology is used by Solid Edge and Unigraphics, it makes life much easier, for better description better google it up!
It reduces the number of steps to produce a part considerably and adjust the over parts in an intelligent manner when a change to a dimension is made! It was long overdue!
The nature of computer based technology is high rate of obsolescence, just look around you how many people use DOS!
or 386 CPU! You don't change, chances of survival is reduced with competition ever present to muscle in on your caper.
Cheer up old boy!

All in all there still seems to be no getting away from the ridiculous perceived need to upgrade something that works well to begin with.

So what the heck is "Synchronous Technology"?

I would assume it's just more garbage that is going to get in between me and getting code into the machine.

Do you ever have to deal with an unparamertized model?

Attached are some simple example of what Synchronous Modeling can do. It is really cool , IMHO.

This makes the direct modeling tool look like a hammer and chisel.

John

Hi Mongo, hope you are not on the aggro train! and feeling well today.
Synchronous Technology is used by Solid Edge and Unigraphics, it makes life much easier, for better description better google it up!
It reduces the number of steps to produce a part considerably and adjust the over parts in an intelligent manner when a change to a dimension is made! It was long overdue!
The nature of computer based technology is high rate of obsolescence, just look around you how many people use DOS!
or 386 CPU! You don't change, chances of survival is reduced with competition ever present to muscle in on your caper.
Cheer up old boy!

How did you know I love DOS! haha I had a 386 in my garage running AutoCad V11 till it up and died.

Thanks for the encouragement.:)

Hey Camster,
Awesome animated pictures. In many cases I have made a dumb copy of a model on a neutral layer to program from, so that I can slice and dice without blowing the original model up.
On rare occasions it has caused me problems where I wish I could had programmed from the original but usually by the time it gets to me the model is completely finished.

So is this actually going to replace how some of the parametric features are created?

Looks interesting.

Mongo:rainfro:

Hey Camster,
Awesome animated pictures. In many cases I have made a dumb copy of a model on a neutral layer to program from, so that I can slice and dice without blowing the original model up.
On rare occasions it has caused me problems where I wish I could had programmed from the original but usually by the time it gets to me the model is completely finished.

So is this actually going to replace how some of the parametric features are created?

Looks interesting.

Mongo:rainfro:

Yes, you can still create parametric features as in the past. This provides additional tools to modify existing solid bodies. The danger I see with this is you can add Synchronous Modling features to an already parametric feature. this will make it a nightmare for someone else to figure out later.