I hope to find someone that can share some info, tips about this machines.
Im not new in CNC machines, but i used to work with italian machines SCM Routech. I use wood.
this is my first time working with this style of machines.

thanks a lot
Adriana

Just bought two Ortza Dart 800 machines one has a cni410 and the other a cni500 controller, I believe that these are similar controllers.

Machines are not up and running yet but will be in the next 3 months.

jr

At least in all the forum, will be 2 Ortza users!! :-)

All the Dart´s use the same controlers, I guess by this time, you are waiting for the people who instal the machine, and give you some clues about the system, I meet some of them in Spain, last year.

I will be glad to talk about your experiences using the machines, soon.

regards!
Adriana

Just bought two Ortza Dart 800 machines one has a cni410 and the other a cni500 controller, I believe that these are similar controllers.

Machines are not up and running yet but will be in the next 3 months.

jr

Finnally got the machines plugged in,

The first one is a dart800chr 2001 with a 6 posistion toolchanger on the left hand side, this machine just needs some TLC and some new nylon grippers for the tools.

The second machine is a Dart800CHR 2002 with a 9 posistion toolchanger on the Y axis however this one has an issue, after having done some electrical repairs all xyz axis will move beautifully as new.

Does anyone have any info on the following issues

1, Machine will not automatically size up (error - Time out rising router)

2, Manually moving the toolchanger causes the machine to trip out

Controls
NC500 controller with a RTU500 PLC

Thanks
John

I need to find information about this machine the Dart 800 with a NEC 500 controller .

I believe the machine has come from Egurka

Please call me 727-744-2276

I am trying to construst a line that has a slope in and out. Meaning that I want my bit to gradually move at a downward slope while machining the line and then once a certain depth is reached I want to be able to make it start coming back up at an upward slope until the bit is done machining the line..... can anyone help me.

what controller do you have with your machine

an NC 410 Deluxe

use the incremental z settings for changing the depth of a profile section whilst programming in EGA mode.

alternativly use the 3d infeed to automatically ramp into the board with a preset radius

Finnally got the machines plugged in,

The first one is a dart800chr 2001 with a 6 posistion toolchanger on the left hand side, this machine just needs some TLC and some new nylon grippers for the tools.

The second machine is a Dart800CHR 2002 with a 9 posistion toolchanger on the Y axis however this one has an issue, after having done some electrical repairs all xyz axis will move beautifully as new.

Does anyone have any info on the following issues

1, Machine will not automatically size up (error - Time out rising router)

2, Manually moving the toolchanger causes the machine to trip out

Controls
NC500 controller with a RTU500 PLC

Thanks
John


Fixed machine wrong software was loaded originally

I am running an older model cnc machine and I am trying to figure out how to write a parametric program for a door (303mm x 765mm) that has an arch. The arch's center point needs to be 62mm from the end of the board.... Everytime I make my board wider I want to write a parametric program so that the arch will expand with the board but the center point stay at 62mm....can someone help me. My controller is a NC 410

Your control should have door macros installed. The one you need to use is DOOR_1_S..I attempted to attach a screenshot of it, hopefully it worked.
To do it by long hand requires that you orient the door in the same manner everytime and use one of the arc EGA commands. Your equation for center point would then be 62 or X-62 depending on your orientation. You would also have to establish relationships with the start point and end points to the panel size to maintain the correct arc proportions.
If you send me a drawing of waht you want to ntek1@aol.com I can create one for you.

Hope this helps

Mark T.

Sorry to bump an old topic but I have just started working in a shop that has an Egurko Ortza Dart 815 RA. I know very little about this machine and nobody here seems to know much about it either.

We program in AlphaCAM v6 and use the Dart 815 control software. I dont know what controller this machine has and I dont know how to find that out either. If someone could enlighten me on this I'd appreciate it.

We are having a major problem with cutting curves because the machine cannot handle more than 800 lines of code. We had an 8000 line program of several circles cut into a panel about 2000 x 900 the other week that we could not run. I had to make 10 seperate programs and run each individually to be able to machine this part.

Anyone know if the memory can be upgraded or if we can run a drip feed?? I know it should be an easy thing to set up. But I just don't know if the machine or software supports it. I cant seem to find out either.

Any help would be much apprecaited. Thanks.

The control is made by HSD which is now owned by Biesse. Your control is probably an NC500. The control is designed to be a simple panel processing control. Memory is not the issue...the control logic limits the lines of code. The control is also not designed to drip feed. Sorry.
Depending on your appications, there are "work arounds" for what your experiencing.
You already found one, cut the work into smaller programs and run multiple programs.
Another alternative is to program in the native environment and use sub programs, especially for repetitive patterns. Again, this relys on programming in the native control environment. You can also import the geometry into the control as a .dxf and apply the tool path within the control, this may reduce the amount of entities depending on how your offline software determines entities.
No clear cut answer here if I can be of further help email me at ntek1@aol.com or visit www.cnccustomservices.com and email me from there.

Mark T.

Thanks for the swift reply Mark.

It seems to me that the machine is not right for the purpose to which it is being put at the moment then. The company has moved into a lot of custom work and I'm working on a project right now that I have concerns with as regards machining. It is a 14 metre high feature wall broken into 2.2m sections all of which have some sort of profile on the edge. I'm explaining this poorly. See attached pdf.
I'm reckoning that the amount of code will be far too great.

I don't as yet know anything about programming in the native environment but I presume that the problem will be much the same.

I guess the solution would be to upgrade the control? Is this possible? I assume it will be expensive?

I can continue the "work around" for now but it is very frustrating and time consuming in going back and forth checking how many lines I am up to now etc.