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MegaMill
08-16-2008, 08:06 AM
I start a new job Monday with a place that has 2 brand new Haas mills. I've run a lot of Haases, but I've been at a place that has only old Fadals all year. I didn't realize Haas has a new controller with CAM features. I'm a bit familiar with MasterCam & Gibbs, but I'd like to get a look at some of the CAM pages on the Haas controller before I start the new gig. Anyone know of a website I can check out? (The Haas website really didn't help... unless I was wanting to buy a new Haas machine. LoL) Thanks.

MegaMill
08-16-2008, 09:45 PM
Wow,I know it's only been a day, but 41 hits.... and not a single reply???? ****in' lame. What a bummer.

Geof
08-16-2008, 10:30 PM
How many people do you expect have a brand new Haas machine with the new controller, and are familar enough with it that they could offer advice?

ducesrwld
08-16-2008, 10:49 PM
the "new" control is really just a new interface. more info on one screen, less bouncing around between pages. if you are familiar with the haas control shouldn't have much of a problem, just a different look. not sure what CAM features you think it has on it....besides enhancements on graphing mode and live 2D imagining on the lathes.

MegaMill
08-16-2008, 10:49 PM
Geof,
I was only hoping (as per my post) for a web site reference... not (necessarily) first-hand advice. But, thank you for your lesson in patience.

MegaMill
08-16-2008, 10:58 PM
ducesrwld,

Thank you for your kind input. From what I (very briefly) saw, there are features such as face-milling, advanced pocket milling, some sort of macro-based drill cycles (bolt-hole circles & the likes. Perhaps there are 'pre-tool- indexes for tapped or reamed holes and such), etc., but you nailed it. It is a very different look (almost like some Windows-based systems like Makino has come out with). Just kind of freaked me out, and I was hoping to vaguely familiarize myself with (at least) those pages before I 'sink or swim'. LoL.

Thanks again for your input. =)

MegaMill
08-16-2008, 11:40 PM
btw....

Geof, you strike me as a ball sack (love the way you spell Jeff.... not. =), and your corny "...open mind" blah, blah, blah signature is tiresome. Sometimes, (as is my suspicion in this forum) people just want some practical, day-to-day tips and tricks to make it through their day in the shop..... not 'profound' life lessons.

I started coding on a Fanuc controller slaved to a beat-up Matsuura mill in 1992. If I post here looking for a little help (and btw... the new Haas controller has a LOT of new bells and whistles), I know WTF I'm asking about.

Thanks again for your insightful input.

btw also, you seem to be some kind of 'hammer' here on this forum. If I've rubbed you the wrong way. and you chuck me from this sight... so be it. I've gotten nothing useful from here anyway. Peace.

Geof
08-16-2008, 11:50 PM
.....btw also, you seem to be some kind of 'hammer' here on this forum. If I've rubbed you the wrong way. and you chuck me from this sight... so be it. I've gotten nothing useful from here anyway. Peace.

I need you to interpret: Is 'hammer' an insult or a compliment?

MegaMill
08-16-2008, 11:55 PM
Geof,

... it was neither, I was merely acknowledging your 'status' within the forum.

Geof
08-16-2008, 11:58 PM
Geof,

... it was neither, I was merely acknowledging your 'status' within the forum.

What 'status'? I am a member just like you; I have been on the forum for a longer period of time and have accummulated more posts, does this give me 'status'?

MegaMill
08-17-2008, 12:07 AM
Jayzus Geof....

Please stop posting to this thread if you're not going to offer something useful. My original point (to your first reply) was that I'm looking for some guidance for a SPECIFIC situation. I could care less HOW long you've been a member of this forum. If you don't have something helpful to add to my thread... please spare me your "How many people do you think have....?" and "...open mind" yatta-yatta.

.... does this translate?

Thank you again for your thoughts.

Geof
08-17-2008, 09:48 AM
Okay here is something useful.

According to information I received from the Haas the operation of the new Haas control with the GUI display is practically identical to the preceding control. Only the display has changed significantly; all the keys still perform the same functions. If you go to the Haas website you can find a small video display that shows, not very effectively, the different key areas on the control. If you are proficient on the earlier Haas controls you should have no problem on with the new display once you have recognised what information is displayed in what area of the screen.

MegaMill
08-17-2008, 10:48 AM
Geof,

I've been to the Haas website and saw the 'interactive' controller page. You're right, it's not very effective, as it shows you the key areas (to include the beacon... I thought that was hilarious), but not really the display pages.

I appreciate you taking the time to check it out. Best regards.

Geof
08-17-2008, 11:18 AM
... but not really the display pages....

The big difference in the pages is that now it displays on one page what used to take two or three. I found it a bit confusing, still do sometimes, because you go looking for something that used to be a few keystrokes away and now it pops up earlier so you go past and cannot find it.

antichip
08-17-2008, 12:30 PM
We just got a new hass at work and I really think there is too much on one page. But it is cool as heck. There are some really nice conversational macros programmed into it with the ability to add your own.

MegaMill
08-17-2008, 01:03 PM
antichip,

thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, for your addition to this thread. The very few replies posted here keep saying that it's just a different look, and that if I'm proficient with earlier controllers I should have no problem. But there IS a lot of new macro, and I was just hoping to find a web site (a YouTube demo or something????) that showed those screens and could at least get me comfortable with the navigation of those newer features.

Thanks for your 'up to date' take on the new software. Peace

Al_The_Man
08-17-2008, 01:19 PM
btw....

Geof, you strike me as a ball sack (love the way you spell Jeff.... not. =), and your corny "...open mind" blah, blah, blah signature is tiresome. Sometimes, (as is my suspicion in this forum) people just want some practical, day-to-day tips and tricks to make it through their day in the shop..... not 'profound' life lessons.


... so be it. I've gotten nothing useful from here anyway. Peace.

I would you suggest you post over in the http://www.practicalmachinist.com/
I reckon you will fit right in :D

There is the main moderator/site owner? When he poses a question, if the answer is not exactly what he wants to hear, he will usually heap abuse or insults to the poster.
I left there way back for this very reason. :tired:
Al.

MegaMill
08-17-2008, 02:58 PM
Al The Man,

I'm sorry you think I'm such an abusive naysayer. Fact is, that's not me at all. If you look at the progression of my thread, when I expressed my frustration of not getting any valuable replies to my query, someone decided to tell me that I was searching for a needle in a haystack. I've since made peace with this poster (as is obvious from the thread), and I finally received an addition from someone who is obviously familiar with the specifics of my original post.

Still, if you would like to engage me in a 'battle of the online wits', by all means post another reply to this thread. I'm not at ALL trying to convey the impression that all replies should be specific to my query, and thus helpful, but if you (as well... <sigh>) want to hand me down a life lesson, let's make this happen, rather than trying to divert me to another site. =)

Peace

Geof
08-17-2008, 04:04 PM
....when I expressed my frustration of not getting any valuable replies to my query, someone decided to tell me that I was searching for a needle in a haystack. I've since made peace with this poster (as is obvious from the thread),....Peace

The manner in which you 'expressed frustration' and the manner you responded to me was abusive naysaying. Why don't you tone down your responses a bit.

Al_The_Man
08-17-2008, 04:26 PM
For the most part, these types of forums consist of some who ask questions and those that voluntarily try to answer them.
This is NOT the official support line for Haas/Fanuc/Mazak etc.
The point I think is lost on many people who do not get the answer they are looking for get a bit frustrated.
I think it is a testament to Geoff's patience that in spite of the rub, he still tried to help you.
If you don't like any answers or do not find them useful, just ignore them and sift out the ones you find are.
I think on the whole, this site is one of the 'saner' and better policed sites, and I belong to a few.
Al.
(BTW Geoff gets paid the same amount as me) ;)