We have an 2000 CR Electronic HD Plasma table that works great, however we don't have the "Winplasma" software that originally came with this machine AND CR Electronic is out of business.

Does anybody have or know where I can get a copy of this software?

Thanks
Jim

How is the unit controlled? Is it a PC running with a special card or just from the parallel port? I doubt they wrote the control software themselves. If it uses a serial port (or possibly a USB) it may be a Flashcut based unit and that software can be purchased easily. I have not heard of WINPlasma software but if it's another brand just repackaged (OEM) you should be able to find it.

If it works great, sounds like all you need is a manual(?)

TOM CAUDLE
www.CandCNC.com

It is controlled by a "Phoenix II" card made for CR electronics. It also has some sort of "CR Electronic" branded Hypertherm THC.

The problem is that it does NOT take standard ASCII files for input, therefore I simply can't just write a post-processor for our ProEngineer NC Sheetmetal, as I did for both our flashcut and wincnc software.

The files that it accepts end in a .PM1 and like I said, are of binary form, not ASCII. I do not have the manual for the machine, but there are many programs loaded into it from the previous owner as well as a standard parts library with allows you to cut many standard patterns. The original owners don't have the software anymore either!

The closest I could find to what is available is the Hypertherm's software, but they must have made this specifically for CR Electronic. I will give them a call and see if they can help.

Jim

I suggest contacting Cutting Systems Inc. in the Cleveland OH area.....they were involved in selling and servicing the CRE machines when they were active in N. America.

http://www.cuttingsystems.com/ Ask for Kevan or Kris Assadorian.....and they likely can steer you in the right direction.

Jim Colt

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Hi, we recently bought an Cr electronic CNC plasmacutter, with the hypertherm HD3070. In about 2 weeks we have the machine installed on our location. The machine contains the original software/manuals, with cds included. So maybe I can help you. I understand that you only need the original CNC programming software?

Kind regards.

Donny

I have obtained a copy of the software, however it is protected by HASP/Dongle. So without the hardware Dongle, I'm SOL.

I have ordered a PlazPac 3 ssytem from candcnc.com to retrofit the whole machine and run it with MACH3.

Thanks
Jim

CR electronic HD 6-20 rotatet work 34° hau wen reparirt thet.

Hi Donny,
the software is protected by dongle.
You need other license, you can ask to me.

Regrads Fabrizio.

Sorry Jim,
I arrived to late. I had the possibility to help you very fast.

Bye,
Fabrizio.

hi.

I have original winplasma 3 and 4.

I will install it on windowx xp but it give me error.
I can't install on windowx xp.

Anybody is capable?

Hi +Zero I have the possibility to help you and install on XP.
Which kind of plasma do you have?

Regards,
Fabrizio.

Hi +Zero I have the possibility to help you and install on XP.
Which kind of plasma do you have?

Regards,
Fabrizio.


I have a 6000x2000 plasma hd3070 with phoenix 1.25.7 controller bought in year 2000 . I have only a plasma torch on machine.
I'm italian

Hello +Zero,
it is possible to install version of Winplasma 5.06 that runs in XP.
Otherwise, if you want use another nesting software it is possible to install
a command line converter to read txt file and write binary file for your HD machine. please contact me at fabrizioit@gmail.com

I have solved this problem.

Guida sul come installare Winplasma 4.0 (Wincam 4.0) su Windows Xp o Windows Vista.

How to install WinPlasma 3 o 4 on Windows XP or Windows Vista.


Problema.
Winplasma 4 è stato programmato per windows 98.
Nei nuovi Pc i driver per windows 98 oramai non esistono più e Winplasma 4 non si installa.
Nel mio caso comparivano gravi errori nell'esecuzione del programma.


Soluzione.
Installare Windows98 sotto una macchina virtuale (ad esempio con Vmware workstation che ho trovato eccellente)



Abilitare la porta parallela nei settaggi di Win98 virtuale da Vmware

Installare Winplasma4 dalla macchina virtuale.

Installate i driver (con Vmtools di vmware) della grafica e del mouse e avrete un win98 che funziona perfettamente e velocissimo!

Abilitate pure due core per la macchina virtuale (se avete un processore multicore), MCAD e WINCAM funzioneranno meglio.



ORIGINAL LINK :
http://www.casara.eu/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg22#msg22

I am using a CR electronics plasma.

I need a copy of winCAM AND/OR a manual.

also does anyone know if it is possible to convert CNC text files from my LANTEC software to binary files for my CR Electronics plasma?




CR made very good machines but they can be hard to service and repair and we have had some adventures with our machine.

i am using a the following machine:

Hypertherm
Model: HD3070.
s/n: 3070 02116

CR electronics
modelo: HD 8-20
matricola: HD 040 798.

Hello,
yes it is possible to convert txt file in binary file for CR machines.
The utility is CrossBin and works very well.

Regards,
Fabrizio.

Hi all.

Im a total newbie to all of this plasma stuff,and just wanted to say hi to all you knowledgeable and helpfull people.

I have just bought 2 CR plasma cutters from here with extraction unit(what a monster!) http://www.shm-auctions.com/lot_list_search.asp

I am going to employ the guy who operated these machines,as the company he worked for no longer requires them.

So hopefully i wont have to pester you guys too much...

Our company makes after market exhausts,and we are hoping to make all the flanges(8mm & 10mm mild steel) for them with these machines.

Do you guys think this will be easy for these plasma cutters to make exhaust flanges?

Also, anyone know where's the best place in uk to buy consumables from?

Cheers
Kirk

depends on what the plasma unit is,

try www.esprit-automation.co.uk



CR made very good plasmas but getting parts or finding people who can work on them can be a nightmare - please share any expieriences you have with this and ask about any problems you have trouble with

I know CR plasma very well.
Ask me in forum.

These are these plasmas we bought.....


"1999 CR Electronic model EU3-15HD cnc single head plasma profile cutter, new bed 3000 x 1500mm, CR controller, Hypertherm HD3070 power source, upgraded HT torch 2008, PC with Nesting software. Serial no. EU010499"

"1999 CR Electronic model EU3-15HD cnc single head plasma profile cutter, bed 3000 x 1500mm, CR controller, Hypertherm HD3070 power source, PC with Nesting software. Serial no. EU020499"

I have been advised to upgrade the torch on the second plasma,as apparently the cosumables need changing every hour!

Esprit-automation have actually sent me a price list of consumables etc,so will give them a try.

Thanks
Kirk

Hello Kirk,
I worked for CR 8 years. I am software developer but I have also contacts with people
are servicing these machines and providing consumables. I have asked a price list for consumables. I'll send this to you as received.

Regards,
Fabrizio.

To install the software in WinXP I simply setup a computer with a Virtual Machine running Windows 98, works well on all our stations.

Hello Kirk,
I worked for CR 8 years. I am software developer but I have also contacts with people
are servicing these machines and providing consumables. I have asked a price list for consumables. I'll send this to you as received.

Regards,
Fabrizio.

Hi Fabrizio.
Much appreciated.

Thanks
Kirk

Hi guys

Im new here

I need a copy of winCAM I have the hardware key but i lost my installation CDs,

and my old PC is no longer useable.

I am using a CR electronics plasma.

can anyone help?

regards

Lars

If its the flanges I think your talking about if you need Raw products or if we can provide you with anything check out our temp website:

http://www.palmerengg-int.350.com/

Cheers.

PJ

Hello Lars,
yes I can help you.
Please let me know the serial number you see on your dongle key.

Thanks,
Fabrizio.

If its the flanges I think your talking about if you need Raw products or if we can provide you with anything check out our temp website:

http://www.palmerengg-int.350.com/

Cheers.

PJ

Hi PJ.
Cheers for the link.

Had a look round your website but we do pretty much everything in-house....

Thanks
Kirk

We have had one of our plasmas running since wednesday.
I am very pleased with the results.

I have just got to find the best way in getting rid of dross/slag....Would a barrell with stones suffice?

Soon we will be making around 800 flanges a day so might need a decent size barrelling machine!?

We managed to get around 2500 pierces before had to change consumables which i thought was quite good...These were with genuine hypertherm consumables.

I had some thermacut consumable samples(non genuine hypertherm) delevered and tried these, but unfortunately they only managed around 20 pierces! Shame really as their prices are really keen.
http://thermacut.co.uk/

Kirk

The Hypertherm HD3070's can cut the materials you are cutting ...virtually dross free. I would suggest having someone that is familiar with those systems (Esprit Automation would be a good choice as they have been working with Hypertherm products for many years) check them out. The HD3070 is a first generation HyDefinition plasma...and if one of them has the torch upgrade....which puts Hypertherm's newest HPR torch on these systems....you should have cut quality that is very close to laser capability.....and consumable parts should last approximately a full shift.

Do you have the Hypertherm operators manual? If not it can be downloaded from the Hypertherm website......follow the settings for gas pressures, flows, arc voltage, current, consumable part numbers, pierce height and cut speed exactly as outlined in the manual....and you will get excellent quality. I would suggest using the 70 Amp 0xygen cutting process on the materials you are cutting. Use genuine Hypertherm consumables....the aftermarket parts use a 1 piece conventional nozzle design, while the Hypertherm is a 2 piece vented nozzle.....which gives high energy density combined with long life.

Jim Colt, Hypertherm

Thanks for the advice Jim.

We do have the upgraded hypertherm torch (HPR130.)Which we was using last week.
The outline of the flanges are fine....Its the bolt holes that seem to be worse affected with dross.

We have got a hypertherm manual,and i think we have done all the settings by the book....Will double check monday morning.

A rep from plascom is coming round next week,so will see if he can improve things....

Kirk

Forgot to ask Jim....How many pierces/how long is a full shift?
"and consumable parts should last approximately a full shift".

Thanks