View Full Version : Introducing the "Xaser"- Low cost laser marking mill/router add-on
XaserSystems 03-27-2008, 12:53 AM Hello, I am Eric from Xaser Systems.
I am bringing you a new upcoming product that im sure a lot of you will love!!
Its the Xaser !!!!
What is it?
The Xaser is an extremely low cost laser engraving and marking attachment that can be used on many existing mill/router as an add-on right along side your existing spindle!!!
The Xaser is capable of marking most materials. It will even mark some lighter color materials such as balsa wood, and even cut completely through thinner darker materials.
For you r/c hobbyists into foamies, it will even cut completely through 3mm gray Depron and will cut 6mm gray Depron to about 5mm with one pass or all the way through with 2 passes.
It can even do those nice looking photo engravings!!!!
It loves darker woods such as Mahogany!! However lighter woods are possible at slower feeds.
It is capable of marking/cutting at speeds up to 30 IPM (dependent on material.
The system is capable of TTL control so it can be turned on/off by Mach3 and your breakout board.
The focal length can be adjusted for variances in mounting locations and minimum z travels.
The system includes:
Laser Head (self contained-air cooled)
Laser Power Supply
Laser Head Mount
Wiring Harness
Laser Safety Glasses
Instruction Manual
The system is INCREDIBLY easy to install and programming is just as you would do for a mill (except for the z axis of course).
How much????
The introductory price of the complete, ready to install and run system
is......$249.00+ shipping Yep, you read it right $249.00
We will be offering a more powerfull system with twice the power in the next few weeks. Its introductory price will be a whopping $349.00 + shipping.
If you have interest in the system or any questions please post them in this thread or contact me HERE (eflynn@indy.rr.com)
I will post some pics and video of the system in action in the next few days.
Thanks,
Eric
Xaser Systems
abasir 03-27-2008, 03:08 AM Looking forward to see more information here on the thread... been looking for low cost laser to add to my growing number of toys...
skip20 03-27-2008, 05:03 AM This I got to see!
Skip20
rgoldner 03-27-2008, 08:25 AM I'm interested. What's the power of the laser and what type is it? I expect that for that price you are using a laser diode, probably the same one used in a 20X or 22X DVD burner.
beone 03-27-2008, 09:20 AM I am very interested.
Dave
maxman 03-27-2008, 09:38 AM Very Interested -Please supply more info
XaserSystems 03-27-2008, 10:49 AM Hey all, I am working on the media package now and will have it up soon. We had all the media ready for the most part and the memory card we were using to transport it was rendered dead by one of our card readers, so we have to re-do most of it.
It is in fact a solid state diode laser, however it is not the type used in DVD burners. It is much more powerfull than that. It is a DPSS laser. The actual laser diode itself is a 2watt laser diode pumping a crystal.
We may even be able to offer a slightly less introductory cost!!
mrcodewiz 03-27-2008, 12:01 PM I'm interested too! Do locals get a discount?
bclark6716 03-27-2008, 12:14 PM Keep me posted when the higher power unit is available.
Brian
XaserSystems 03-27-2008, 12:22 PM Locals!!! Discount!!!!
Actually, as I stated earlier, we may be able to offer a better intro price than the $249.00, however it will probably only be for the first 50 units or so, then it will probably go up to the projected retail of $279.00.
The higher power units are actually pretty much ready, we are just waiting on optics, which will be a week or so out.
XaserSystems 03-27-2008, 02:33 PM OK, I have confirmed we can offer the first 50 pieces at the low price of $229.99 + shipping.
After the first 50 are gone the price will go up to the projected $279.99, which is still a bargain for such a system.
The intro price of the higher power unit will be $329.99 +shipping and will be available late next week. However it will be limited to 30 pieces at this price.
I will have the media done shortly. I have to do a few new videos of it in action.
307startup 03-27-2008, 09:23 PM hell yeah, I'm in...
mhmslm 03-27-2008, 11:03 PM What will the performance of the more expensive model be? Thanks.
Mike M.
rgoldner 03-27-2008, 11:50 PM How about giving us some details. What is the output power of the two models?
I get very nervous when I see an announcement like this. Lots of hype, no details, pictures, videos, etc.
janapurushottam 03-28-2008, 12:28 AM hi there
can you please suggest is it possible to ship the complete ready module to india where i stay
and also what should be the price of shipping to india
XaserSystems 03-28-2008, 09:46 AM For all of you wanting specs , details and pics etc., we are working on the media package now and will have it up soon. It will contain all spec data, pics etc. It would have been posted along with the first post but the data was corrupted on the card we were using, but I thought I would post a teaser anyway.
Please keep in mind, this system is not an industrial power laser capable of cutting "through" most materials. It is being marketed as a laser marking system, that just so happens to have the capability of cutting through some materials, and scoring some materials enough to provide a clean break. Also, it does not come with an industrial laser price tag either, but it is a very capable system that will provide years of reliable service.
neilw20 03-28-2008, 10:26 AM Do you have an in agent in Australia, or do you need one. PM me please.
Pplug 03-28-2008, 04:11 PM Sign me up!
bcdaus 03-28-2008, 06:11 PM Very interested in the higher power model, but need more info.
Bill
Sydney, Australia
meisje08 03-28-2008, 07:18 PM You'll shoot your eye out!!!
DaveP 03-28-2008, 09:26 PM any pictures?? how big is it? I'd like to know if it can be fitted to a CarveWright - http://www.carvewright.com
mlind 03-29-2008, 12:12 AM How many watt laser are we talking about?
What make/kind of laser diode?
I look forward to seeing some examples that are carved into wood...i.e. Birch, pine, walnut.
Definetely Keep us posted...
Billy_tyumen 03-29-2008, 03:04 AM Hi everyone. This is my first post but hopefully not the last. I'm interested in all CNC machine for hobby and also with laser engraving options. Does your optics can withstand with more powerful laser diodes?
ronateah 03-29-2008, 08:51 AM Please keep me posted on this product
307startup 03-29-2008, 02:47 PM Why do you call your system Xaser? A xaser is an x-ray laser which can cut, weld and mark metals...
vmax549 03-29-2008, 10:24 PM Is it capable of SUB SURFACE ENGRAVING???
(;-) TP
2muchstuff 03-29-2008, 11:01 PM You've got my interest but I'm from the Show Me State........ so show me.
XaserSystems 03-29-2008, 11:11 PM OK, for all who need a pic here are a few of my personal test unit.
There is one of the head itself and one beside a 3/4 end mill for size comparison. Dont let size fool you, as you will see as soon as I can get the rest of the "good" media sorted out, that it is quite powerful.
As for exact specs., I am waiting on our laser engineer to re-send me that info as I do not personally know the exact specs off hand.
I will try to get this thing mounted on my router tomorrow and get some samples made in whatever I have lying around here.
Also, I apologize for any delays. We have had an absolute flood of emails from all over the world about our system since the first posting. We did not expect the kind of interest we have had.
2muchstuff 03-29-2008, 11:37 PM Are these units made here in the states or overseas. What about life expectancy.
XaserSystems 03-30-2008, 02:14 AM The diodes, crystals and housings are made overseas. Im not sure where the secondary optics are actually made at but they are purchased in the states.
The electronics are made overseas also, with modifications done in-house to suit the purpose.
The life expectancy is between 3000-5000 hours.
ronateah 03-30-2008, 10:18 AM Awaiting specs and promo materials but also you should prepare for all safety enquires and availability of associated safety accessories (googles, saftey curtains, barriers etc)
meisje08 03-30-2008, 11:47 AM Can I get on some type of wait list????
fish1234 03-30-2008, 02:16 PM Can't wait to get my hands on one! I am still in the preliminary stages of building my CNC router, but have been wanting a laser for a while!
wwendorf 03-30-2008, 10:00 PM I would like to be on the waiting list for the high power one at the introductory price.
Thanks,
Wade
boxwood 03-30-2008, 10:09 PM LEt us know when you, you have something to show
jhop2 04-01-2008, 06:47 AM I don't see any pictures of your test unit. When do you think the information will be ready?
jhop2 04-01-2008, 06:49 AM I see them now, guess the site was slow to load.
artwood_decor 04-02-2008, 11:35 PM In case youre laser diode has to be replaced can the user do that?
Are they available as replacement parts?
Lucian
MrWild 04-03-2008, 12:11 AM I'd like to see a video before I'd commit. At the moment a old CD burner can give up it's lazer diode a lot cheaper and it does engraving in plastic, will burn through electricians tape and other interesting things. What makes your's better? If it is American made, more points. if it is chinese? Well, I'll need to see it out perform what I can cobble together with old parts before I throw wads of cash at China.
abasir 04-03-2008, 07:56 PM Mr Wild,
The DVD burner laser option also triggered my laser interest earlier... however, even over driving them (which will reduce the life of the laser) you possibly get around 400mW of power... The unit mentioned here supposed to be 2W of continuous power rated for much longer life... But like you and several other mentioned, let's see more details... :-)
cncwanabe2 04-05-2008, 01:53 AM I was just about to buy a 40 watt cnc system off ebay if i can just convert my new k2 router that would me good
mc-motorsports 04-05-2008, 02:52 AM When the new double power comes out, I'm in! Definatly want more info, save me one!
MC
mc-motorsports 04-05-2008, 03:11 AM Website? NEED INFO ASAP! Google comes up with nothing good!
XaserSystems 04-07-2008, 11:13 AM Ok, sorry for the delay guys. We are in the middle of a re-think on the lower power module. We may be scrapping the lower power unit as we have almost zero interest in comparison to the higher power unit.
The higher power units should be available in a few days. I am working on getting the video up also.
I will keep you guys updateded the next few days.
johnnyb 04-08-2008, 11:54 AM I am also interested in the more powerfull unit.
Thanks,
John
flyon 04-10-2008, 01:57 PM I am also interested in more info when it is available.
Thanks,
Russ
sandefuj 04-10-2008, 03:33 PM Me too, please send me information when the new higher power unit is available.
Thanks
Jay
ronsii 04-10-2008, 07:43 PM Let me know also when the higher power unit is available, sounds like a handy quick retrofit for any cnc machine!:rainfro:
brad3378 04-12-2008, 03:29 PM Please post pics and/or videos
Pplug 04-15-2008, 03:39 PM Is this product dead? I have not seen any info or products from the manufacturer yet other than two picts.
You know what they say- If it's sounds to good to be true then...
mlind 04-22-2008, 01:32 AM Better home made than China Made. :cheers:
I'd like to see a video before I'd commit. At the moment a old CD burner can give up it's lazer diode a lot cheaper and it does engraving in plastic, will burn through electricians tape and other interesting things. What makes your's better? If it is American made, more points. if it is chinese? Well, I'll need to see it out perform what I can cobble together with old parts before I throw wads of cash at China.
cnczoner 04-22-2008, 07:57 AM Better home made than China Made. :cheers:
So what happens if you live in China? :)
So are these diode pumped neodymium yttrium orthovanadate crystals in a resonant cavity producing 1064 nanometers of coherent light or is there a frequency doubling non linear crystal such as potassium titanium oxide phosphate included in the cavity to produce 532 nanometer coherent light? The market for diode pumped solid state lasers has been driven by low cost green (532 nanometer) producing modules for the entertainment industry, so I am assuming some form of this type laser is being used? I think practical end pumping of the Nd:YVO4 would be 2 watts, and with a 60% efficiency (possible?) you could get over 1 watt of 1064nm if you are not trying to double the frequency. The big problem is that 1064nm is not absorbed as well as longer wavelengths such as carbon dioxide lasers (10600 nm) in organic materials such as paper, plastics and wood. I think this is one reason you are seeing darker woods mark better than lighter woods. Also, on clear acrylics, you might even have some of the energy pass through the material instead of vaporizing it. Some of this can be overcome by spoiling the quality factor of the resonant cavity (q-switching) but I think the tiny length of these cavities (under 2 inches?) and the high cost of q-switches and their RF drivers would make this unpractical.
Maybe soon the chinese will start to make fiber optic lasers. Then you will have a pocket sized laser producing 100 watts.
baseball43v3r 04-24-2008, 03:21 PM KTP do you have an english version of your post?
rustyolddo 04-24-2008, 03:45 PM Keep me posted, sounds like a good low cost marking solution. You can get the chemicals on Ebay for marking metals.
chad123 04-24-2008, 06:37 PM @KTP - LOL!!
That was English ;) I fully understood it. But I also am an old school Laser nerd.
KTP, This also could just be a 808 pump diode collimated. I would much rather just have 40W Co2. This sound like vapor ware to me. This guy doesn't seem to know much about laser.
He should have fun dealing with the cdrh and getting a variance. Sends shivers up my spine thinking about a bunch of people with 2w of invisible light haphazardly burning stuff, their own eyes included..
Chad
cncJerry 05-01-2008, 09:22 PM after reading this thread I played around with diode lasers and I just don't see the power and/or efficiency as well as durability being there. I am looking for something relatively low-cost to cut thin ply and balsa on my CNC mill.
Jerry
jimmygg 05-03-2008, 11:51 AM Hi: guys
I’m also looking for laser to use to cut round disk out of acrylic 1/16’ thick, I need cut a lot of them, I was told 25 watt should do it. I have cnc table just need low cost laser
You can email me with any suggestion
(my email = jimmy_gg@comcast.net)
Thanks
jim
vpcnc 05-21-2008, 01:13 PM Still Watching this thread to see where it goes..
No new news....
ronsii 05-21-2008, 04:09 PM Well no news is good news right??? :wave:
>> vpcnc Still Watching this thread to see where it goes..
No new news....
kenrik 05-21-2008, 09:44 PM Ok, sorry for the delay guys. We are in the middle of a re-think on the lower power module. We may be scrapping the lower power unit as we have almost zero interest in comparison to the higher power unit.
The higher power units should be available in a few days. I am working on getting the video up also.
I will keep you guys updateded the next few days.
A few days have passed, (more like 1 1/2 months ) and no new infomation on your laser modules. Something smells fishy here!!!!...Are you also known as CNCBridges.com...because it sure resembles the same old MO---BS ???? (nuts)
bluice79 06-25-2008, 01:45 AM any news about the XASER?????
It's more than 4 months that i tried emailing them, but got no answer????
what do you think it's going on?
boxwood 06-27-2008, 07:04 PM My opinion just some guy trying to see how much of our time he can waste. Forget it and move on
twistedfuse 06-28-2008, 08:52 PM I agree, after not hearing and not having any info on the product seems a little odd. I would be surprised to see the product released. For some peoples knowledge, it is possible to build a 1w or 5w solid state laser cheaply, but you would need some electronics knowledge. There is a book out there that has plenty of circuit diagrams for building different lasers. A guy at my work has it so ill have to double check the name but its made by something like the evil mad scientist or evil genius and the book is about lasers. Had both solid state and CO2 lasers an their electronic circuits. Not ba for such a book.
Daniel
ronsii 06-30-2008, 02:22 PM Well shoot and here I had my heart set on buying a gross of these for setting up my new factory :-(0 sob;sob;sob
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