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looking9
03-09-2008, 01:26 AM
I am working with microfluidic system for my scientific research and I need a metal master mold. The pattern of the master is like a stamp which has a couple of tiny bars on top a base. The width of the bar is 0.1mm and height is 0.5mm. I am thinking to buy a desktop CNC milling system but I am debating because CNC is not my major. Another option for me is to find a shop to do this. Anyone can help me to find a shop which has micro milling capability and also is willing to do small volume samples? I have different patterns to mill but for each pattern I just need very few samples. I am located in Chicago area. I am will to accept any reasonable price.

Thanks a lot.

zcases
03-09-2008, 08:27 AM
what is the spacing between the bars? Can you post a sketch with tolerances and material requirements?

Thanks
Scott

looking9
03-09-2008, 10:13 AM
The material could be any metal which could be easily milled, like: stainless steel, aluminum, copper or brass. The tolerance is like ±10% of the dimension in my drawings. I also attached my drawing.

Thanks a lot.

pixburghenat
03-09-2008, 04:43 PM
The material could be any metal which could be easily milled, like: stainless steel, aluminum, copper or brass. The tolerance is like ±10% of the dimension in my drawings. I also attached my drawing.

Thanks a lot.



Stick with the brass.

Is there a research machine shop at your university?
Or one at a nearby University that you could use?

I'm only asking because this is the type of work I've done with a medical school research machine shop and now with the engineering school machine shop. Sorry, I can't quote on outside work and we don't have a high speed spindle anyway.

...again, stick with the brass.


Scott

I can create a Solidworks model for you, no cost. version 2007.

pixburghenat
03-09-2008, 05:26 PM
I have a Solidworks model. I need to add the corner radius.

here's a jpg.


Scott

looking9
03-09-2008, 05:54 PM
Thanks, Scott
I really appreciate your help on making me a Solidworks model. I will take your advice and stick with brass. And if you don’t mind, would you please tell me why brass is my first choice?

A high speed spindle won't be a problem for me or at least I don’t think it is the crucial for my sample because in my mind, a high speed spindle can just make the mold better and a normal spindle can make it. I don’t expect to use the same machines listed in the literature. I just want the mold to be made.

Pang

mactec54
03-09-2008, 06:26 PM
Hi looking9

what are the corner Radiuses needed & it depends what you want to do with it
as to what material is needed

zcases
03-09-2008, 07:44 PM
你是中国人吗? 我看了你的名字。 我只好奇了。。。。。

pixburghenat
03-09-2008, 08:42 PM
Here's the models.

Scott

I have Edrawings of both also, posted below.
You'll need the viewer from solidworks.com

...and zcases said:
You are Chinese? I read your name. I just curious about the.......

:-)

pixburghenat
03-09-2008, 08:53 PM
edrawings and models.

You'll need edrawings (free) from solidworks


Scott

pixburghenat
03-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Pang,

If you are flexible with the sizes of the inside radius, it will be less costly to make. Say a inside radius of .25mm or .30mm would be a bit easier or even bigger.


Scott

looking9
03-09-2008, 09:58 PM
:rainfro:Yes, I'm Chinese.Good eyes. 是的,我是中国人。你的眼力不错。

looking9
03-09-2008, 10:02 PM
Hi,Scott
Thank you very much for your edrawings and models. And are you Chinese too,because you can read Chinese?:confused:

pixburghenat
03-10-2008, 06:42 AM
No, not me.

I used Google tranlator.


Scott

zcases
03-10-2008, 11:15 AM
Sorry to hijack the thread. No - I'm not Chinese, but I have been studying your language for about 3 years now. I take any chance I get to practice.

谢谢您!
柯思高

Thanks
Scott (zcases)

After all that, I can't help with the micromilling anyway. Unless as someone else stated the inner radii could be much larger..................

looking9
03-10-2008, 01:28 PM
Thanks, 柯思高. You are more than welcome to practice Chinese with me anytime you want.

Pang

hsm400
03-11-2008, 11:56 AM
Check out Kern. www.kernprecision.com

They sell A very high end micro-machine and I believe they also do contract machining as well.

Good Luck

looking9
03-11-2008, 05:01 PM
hsm400,
Thanks for you suggestion. KERN is the CNC system which was used in the paper I cited. However I did not find any contractor information on their website. Anyone knows about their contractors in USA?

pixburghenat
03-11-2008, 06:35 PM
Hi Pang,

If you you are only making one or two of these, anyone with a 10K or 15K spindle should be able to make this for you using brass material.


Scott

mactec54
03-11-2008, 08:49 PM
Hi Pang

I have not heard what corner radus you want this will determine who can
do this you said they finished with a 25um cutter that is .001 dia approximate so
just to get a cutter to do that at .5mm /.0196" deep will cost a lot of $$$
a .6mm/.0236" & .8mm/.0314" dia ( these numbers are approximate ) is around $70/$80
in carbide .2mm/.0078" would give just under .004" corner radus

looking9
03-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Thank you all for helping me. I attached the paper in the literature. I also wonder if the corner could be cut manually. Just a stupid idea.

hsm400
03-11-2008, 09:23 PM
Click on the US flag. It should have contact information.

looking9
03-11-2008, 09:27 PM
About pixburghenat's idea "anyone with a 10K or 15K spindle should be able to make this ": I call a couple of local CNC shops and they just worried about the corner and told me that they couldn't make it. I'm not sure about their spindle speed and how can I talk them into it in order to let them make this small mold stamp for me?

looking9
03-11-2008, 09:30 PM
I got the Kern contact information. Thanks a lot.