View Full Version : Request For Quote For Wood Board Game Pieces
Armis 09-25-2007, 11:17 AM Hi,
We are in need of a price quote for wood game pieces for the board game called Armis.
Our immediate need is for 100 sets (36 pieces per set).
Photos of most of the game pieces can be seen here: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgssv9cs_68f4j4p8
As you may see, changes were made to some game pieces (eg: copter/jet) so that they can be made easier with your CNC machines.
We are open to all questions ...
Lastly, please submit a lead time you can honor, and provide a bid in USD not hours. This bid request will officially close on October 5, thanks for your attention.
dpryor 09-25-2007, 11:42 AM What kind of finish are you going to require on the wood pieces? While the geometry is faily simple, it may be a rather complex CNC operation. Do they need to be wood? Have you considered cast urethane?
Armis 09-25-2007, 12:09 PM What kind of finish are you going to require on the wood pieces? While the geometry is faily simple, it may be a rather complex CNC operation. Do they need to be wood? Have you considered cast urethane?
Dpryor, thanks for your speedy reply; on your first point, the pieces need not be finished.
With regard to the second point, although we are open to any material (wood, stone, clay, urethane (is that plastic?),) we figured wood would generate us a very good looking product, a very fast turnaround, low upfront costs, and a very durable product.
Plastic injection molding will eventually be one whole aspect of the game's production, however only after we have gauaged market demand on a few levels.
We would welcome your quote for this job in 'urethane'.
Armis 09-28-2007, 08:12 PM Ok, I'm approximately half way through my time deadline for this quote, I see about 150 thread view, 45 pdf views, and 1 reply but not one quote ... please let me know where the problem is?
ger21 09-28-2007, 08:27 PM Imo, it would be very expensive to get those made out of wood. Perhaps that is why you haven't got any quotes.
Armis 09-28-2007, 08:47 PM Imo, it would be very expensive to get those made out of wood. Perhaps that is why you haven't got any quotes.
oh ... ok :(
... uh ... :idea: about how much would "very expensive" be (ball park)?
ger21 09-28-2007, 08:56 PM I don't see enough information in your .pdf to even guess. You should post some detailed, dimensioned drawings of all your parts.
Armis 09-28-2007, 10:03 PM I've edited the initial post with a different drawing, this one includes dimensions for all pieces.
We tried to make it as simple as can be, if this drawing was printed as layed-out the pieces would be the size we expect.
If there is a set of file extensions that are most desirable for the bidder please let me know and I will try to provide the file with one of those extensions.
Moondog 09-29-2007, 01:01 AM Armis.
Instead of Solid Timber, would you consider a Marine or similar Plywood?.....
With your designs there are a lot of sharp corners/angles that would require several passes. Are radiused corner/s acceptable?..
cheers
Frans
turmite 09-29-2007, 09:08 AM Armis I tried opening the pdf in my 3d cad (Rhino) and it said unknown op.
Do you have these in a cad system? I don't know about everyone else, but I personally hate anything pdf! The only way I could quote on these would be to do a screen shot, import that into Rhino and then have to model each one individually. I promise you that you don't want people having to re-model or re-draft what you have already done.
To reinforce what has already been said......all the sharpe inside corners are going to make this a very expensive process, and quite honestly will keep people from bidding.
With the current rfq the only way I could bid on it would be a per hr price because I don't know how long it is going to take to re-draw everything.
Mike
HuFlungDung 09-29-2007, 10:28 AM If these are simple 2d shapes extruded in 3d, then I suggest that you submit a set of line drawings to a waterjet outfit. They can process wood, can cut sharp corners, etc., etc.
kdoney 09-29-2007, 03:34 PM You show lines in front of the outline of the drawings. This seems to me to be 2 (or more) levels of cutting. Is this what you want?
Armis 09-29-2007, 06:09 PM Armis.
Instead of Solid Timber, would you consider a Marine or similar Plywood?.....
With your designs there are a lot of sharp corners/angles that would require several passes. Are radiused corner/s acceptable?..
cheers
Frans
Thank you for your reply, ... I don't know what "Marine" wood is, but if it is 'similar to plywood' it would not be acceptable.
As for the matter of sharp corners, ... 'radius' corners would be more than acceptable.
Armis 09-29-2007, 06:13 PM If these are simple 2d shapes extruded in 3d, then I suggest that you submit a set of line drawings to a waterjet outfit. They can process wood, can cut sharp corners, etc., etc.
thanks for the advice, I will make a note of that
Armis 09-29-2007, 06:36 PM You show lines in front of the outline of the drawings. This seems to me to be 2 (or more) levels of cutting. Is this what you want?
Sorry about the additional inside-lines, please only use the perimeter (outer-outline) lines.
The 100 set order is very basic; by the time we graduate to 10,000 sets we will be extremely detailed, but not at this point.
Thanks for the consideration.
wjfiles 09-30-2007, 06:15 AM After looking at the pieces, is there any reason that most of them could not be profiled into long boards with a moulder and cut off to length.
The grain would be different but would this matter.There would be a small amount of lathe work.
Just a suggestion.
WJF
Armis 10-01-2007, 12:45 AM After looking at the pieces, is there any reason that most of them could not be profiled into long boards with a moulder and cut off to length.
The grain would be different but would this matter.There would be a small amount of lathe work.
Just a suggestion.
WJF
Actually, something to that effect was mentioned in my 'pre-quote' discussion thread. The issue was the price of the blade(s).
As long as the pieces are uniformed, look good, and are strong we will consider any suggestion.
I invite you to submit a bid.
rscabeza 10-01-2007, 07:09 AM Dpryor, thanks for your speedy reply; on your first point, the pieces need not be finished.
With regard to the second point, although we are open to any material (wood, stone, clay, urethane (is that plastic?),) we figured wood would generate us a very good looking product, a very fast turnaround, low upfront costs, and a very durable product.
Plastic injection molding will eventually be one whole aspect of the game's production, however only after we have gauaged market demand on a few levels.
We would welcome your quote for this job in 'urethane'.
i can help you out if you want it as plastic injected parts.
i can make you the mold design for this stuff.
rscabeza@yahoo.com.ph
Armis 10-01-2007, 02:15 PM i can help you out if you want it as plastic injected parts.
i can make you the mold design for this stuff.
rscabeza@yahoo.com.ph
there are two steps for us to complete before we graduate to molds:
1) 100 wood sets of general design, [this RFQ]
2) 1000 wood sets of refined design. [next RFQ]
Armis 10-04-2007, 01:48 PM Thanks to all for your attention to this matter, although we only received one quote we hope one is enough. The company isn't enthused about only having one quote, but I'm the one doing all of the leg work.
Anyway, this is the formal notice post to indicate that the bidding for this RFQ has ended.
I'll continue to accept emails for injection molding inquires.
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