Hi:)
How many Cimatron users are here.Say hi.
I am cimatron user.

me, too

Only two!

I've never heard of this software but just checked out thier website. How do you guys like the CAM aspect? What's a ballpark figure on price?

Thanks

I can see that not many of the 20000 users have found this site, or perhaps they are just too busy getting on with work, and they do not want to share their secrets woth all and sundry.
No, jokeing apart the users of Cimatron E (now up to E8) have much more than just CAM to work with, as leaders in tool design software Cimatron have a very impressive suit of modules that cover every aspect, from part design, tool design (both mould and die), one of the best parting solutions for seperating Cavity/Core & side action sliders , electrode extraction, micro mill shop floor viewers, Reverse engineering, shoe design, mill turn, wire EDM, 3 axis mill, 5 axis mill. part assembly AND a Full suit of native file translators.
All this from one provider. This parametric solid/ surface solution gives the best of both worlds

:boxing:

You got another one here. Used Surfcam, Delcam Powermill and a little Mastercam x for electrodes and high speed milling. I like Cimatron the best.

How is Cimatron for 4 axis horizontal production tombstone milling? Anyone use it for this?

I have used Cimatrom, old version 6. You can't beat it for mold making and any type of CAM. Currently using UGS NX4. I would really like to have Cimatron agian so I can get some work done.

Brian

Long time Cimatron user. E8 Nothing beats if for mold & die work.

Eric

17 year Cimatron programmer here.

Hi,
I know on a mold the parts have to have a great finish and of course be dimensional there.

I other cam systems there is 3d offset and parellel toopaths for finishing. I that what you use in Cimatron also? Is there something else for finishing?

What scallop height is usually programmed?

For toolpath type I am refering to milling a core type part.

Thanks

Been running Cimatron for about 7yrs now. Just started working with the 8.5 beta and have few complaints. It is absolutely great for electrodes and NC, I am still feeling out the mold design capabilities. It has a great blend of solid and surface parametric modeling.

Danny

Well looks like it is a general opinion amongst Cimatron users, great software, and few complaints. Regarding 8.5, thanks for your feedback, we havn't released it in the UK just yet, but did you experience the new feature in E8, "accelerated mould design" for those designers who use one or more bolster plates to directly sink in the CAV/CORE, not using inserts. I have not come accross a software like it for ejector pin manipulation, such a breeze to add, move, modify, delete and trim

I have used the accelerated mold design package, with and without inserts for the cavities and cores. I like the ejector pocket and ejector trim when it works. There are times when it is just destin to fail. Part of this could be operator error and part to do with poor geometry from the part creator. We have found that Catia can have some of the nastiest models when the user is not on top of the game... those are the ones I get quite often. If the parts are clean and stitched we still use ProE for the mold design, it is really hard to beat, but when you have to go to surfacing and unstitched models Cimatron is a better choice. There are times we will start a design in ProE, then after a day or so of struggling to get a closed solid start spliting it in Cimatron as well. Ussually I can split a really ugly part a good bit faster than the ProE guys but I can't keep up making drawings for the shop floor. They need to do something to speed up drafting and make it more powerful. I realize that drafting templates save a ton of time but the ProE guys have them too and theirs work faster, not to mention I am still working on setting up all of mine and all of theirs are already created.

As far as accelerated mold design I have found that I like to add a sub-assembly to the fixed half and the moving half before I create the mold base. This is where all of the components are kept with regards to the cores, cavities, slides, and lifters. It seems to make it easier for me to keep track of things. I am still pretty new to design though so I may change my ways... I am open to suggestions.

Danny

Hi
Started using Cimatron back with V7 IT....I still use V13 IT !!!!
The company I work for didn't really show any interest in training for Elite.
I'm finished with this trade at the end of the year, 30 years is enough.
I'll still be poking around here and contributing when I can.
Good Luck Lads it's getting rough out there.

hi
working on cimatron for a mold company , modeling electrodes and programing deckel maho machines .

Hi I work for a small shop in southwest Michigan, we build die cast dies, plastic injection molds, and rubber molds. We currently have 2 mold design seats, and 3 NC seats of cimatron. I have been using Cimatron for 5 yrs. now, including Design, Electrode extraction, and the NC side of the system.

I've been using Cimatron E for 5 years mostly for NC programming. It works well but like with everything there's always something that could be a little better.

I tried to go to the Cimatron Web forum that Phil and Dan used to keep up but couldn't find it. It's been a while. Does anyone know what happened with it? Did they quit doing it?

Still running as far as I know




http://supportcti.com/support/forum/

I've been using Cimatron E for 5 years mostly for NC programming. It works well but like with everything there's always something that could be a little better.

I tried to go to the Cimatron Web forum that Phil and Dan used to keep up but couldn't find it. It's been a while. Does anyone know what happened with it? Did they quit doing it?

It is still alive, but they don't keep up too well with it these days. When you post there it could take weeks before anyone is able to read it, they don't have time to moderate it that well. There is also a group on yahoo with several strong users as well, but like any group with yahoo it can be a little tougher to navigate than the forums here on cnczone.

Danny

I using cimatron to :) but still use cimatron it ver 9.0 :(

I currently use Cimatron E8, design plastic injection molds, electrodes ans cnc cutter paths. They still do the webinars. Usually about one a month. You need to contact them and let them know your e-mail account so they can send you notices of when they are having them. They will send you a link to download Interwise so you can view the weinars. Make sure you load this on your computer well before the webinar starts. They won't wait for you if you have problems. Cimatron is very good software. As with any, there is always room for improvements. If there is an enhancement you would like to see, you need to log onto there support page and log in a request. They will send it of to R&D. If it's viable, they will add it into future releases. Remember....squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Wow so many Cim users here!
Myself I started with Cimatron IT ver.6 or 7 .
I am still using IT 13.1 yes is old but the job is done and very fest.I am not under presure to use E!
Yes Cimatron is very good software.
Most people look for price when they are looking for CNC 3D software they do not see what is able to do!Ones you understand power of Cimatron you will smoke jobs! Ya.

Hi
I have been using cimatron for 3 years now.i started at E6 up to E8 and its a good software.really nice in programming and surface modelling. but in design some how other software are much easier to use like pro e, solidworks. does anybody know if cimatron can run on a 4 axiz horizontal milling.

First thing, it will drive a 4-axis fine.

Second, harder to use than ProE? I am not sure about this one, I have been running Cimatron for a good while now just down the hall from some guys running ProE, when they get a really nasty part model imported from the customer that will not stitch solid without a lot of work they have me deal with it. Where they prefer a stitched model to work with Pro Mold, I don't care if the model is solid or opened trash with edges that don't match. Don't get me wrong, it is easier if the faces do match but I can still work with long before they ProE guys get it stitched up. I realize that Part of that is due to the way the guy running the software thinks, our ProE guys are very strict about everyday operations... I prefer not to starch my shirt, less rules are better sometimes, at the same time the more strict ruled they follow make some of their assembly features work much faster.

Third, solidworks, I like it, if I did not already own Cimatron I would probably buy solidworks. I would miss the surfacing in Cimatron though, but its a matter of time before rhino makes its way into solidworks i think or something of similar functionality. I have never seen a mold split done in solidworks though, i think i would ask them to split one of the ugly ones before taking the plunge.

Danny

I use both Solidworks and Cimatron. I find that Cimatron has the best design for a CAM package. The other guy here uses Mastercam X and I'm able to get toolpaths out quicker. I just wish the translators were free like every other CAM package. Find it kinda sad I have to use iges or step files. But other than that I think the guys at Cimatron are tweaking out all the bugs and adding alot of flexibility with it.

Cimatron is great software.

The other guy here uses Mastercam X and I'm able to get toolpaths out quicker.

We all use Cimatron where I work for nc, for some it can be really quick, others really struggle with it. I don't think its the software every time that makes us fast or slow. I enjoy programming with Cimatron, it makes the work day more tolerable.


Danny

We all use Cimatron where I work for nc, for some it can be really quick, others really struggle with it. I don't think its the software every time that makes us fast or slow. I enjoy programming with Cimatron, it makes the work day more tolerable.


Danny

totally agree. It's really the user being capable enough of using the software properly. But I only say this because I've used both programs and when I first switched to Cimatron I was struggling alot because of the tactics I chose were geared towards Mastercam. But after about a year of using it I find that it does make programming alot easier.

Are you using templates or autodrill much? I use templates alot for the simple stuff, they can save a ton of time. Autodrill... still have not set it up yet.

Danny

What suprises me from the general level of comments are that the majority of you are are using Cimatron E for Mould Design and or NC, and no mention of the Quick Electrode, is that because you all just use it, or is this not something that is important to you. Some of our users in the UK have displaced other software with this module, namley PS Electrode and Mastercams electrode. If anyone wants more information please contact me.
Are there any users of the Die Design modules out there, we would like to make contact with you and get your expereince online
:cheers:

Are you using templates or autodrill much? I use templates alot for the simple stuff, they can save a ton of time. Autodrill... still have not set it up yet.

Danny

I rarely use templates, its usually when I have setup a special toolpath like a helix bore or something that I really go back to using it.

The autodrill I use everyday, its a little cumbersome at first with all the ranges and values you have to set and Cimatron is VERY particular about the hole dynamics but since I do all my own designs the ranges I set 99% of the time some drill sequence will show up. But I would really recommend you get familiar with the autodrill.. The MasterCAM guys will never know our secret on how we can get drilling cycles out so fast.. Haha

I rarely use templates, its usually when I have setup a special toolpath like a helix bore or something that I really go back to using it.

The autodrill I use everyday, its a little cumbersome at first with all the ranges and values you have to set and Cimatron is VERY particular about the hole dynamics but since I do all my own designs the ranges I set 99% of the time some drill sequence will show up. But I would really recommend you get familiar with the autodrill.. The MasterCAM guys will never know our secret on how we can get drilling cycles out so fast.. Haha

Parametrics and Intelligence built in? :D

I'm Cimatron user also. I'ts really great I found this forum. Its true Cimatron have great tools for mold and die. With regards the CAM, I think thats where I need help. I'm struggling at my first machining because I'm new to it.
Can anyone give a suggestions or sample templates that have good parameters I can work on? Thanks:)

I'm Cimatron user also. I'ts really great I found this forum. Its true Cimatron have great tools for mold and die. With regards the CAM, I think thats where I need help. I'm struggling at my first machining because I'm new to it.
Can anyone give a suggestions or sample templates that have good parameters I can work on? Thanks:)

Best advice is just to jump in lol

me too

Best advice is just to jump in lol

me

cimatron is a powerfule tool

:cheers: I have Capability to Work with Cimatron Design,NC,Electrode,Qucik Split & Mold Design.

Its Very user friendly. But I am like to see Cimatron to be focussed towards Product design also.

:rolleyes: I am using Cimatron Since 2004..Starting from the Version Cimatron E4.0

At Present I am using Cimatron E9.0..

My Mail id - aadhitya2008@gmail.com

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i have been using ciamtron 8.5 for about a year its the best cam software i have ever used, love it, we just got the 9.0 haven't tried it yet, i'm sure it will be great,

i used mastercam for about 8 years before, and edgecam for about 2 years, also tried esprit for about 6 months, just in case your wondering,

i would like to know what you think obout 9.0, i'm currently using 8.5, thank

Hi i am a Cimatron user, but mi inglish is tooooo bad, the Cimatron is a Very good CAM, but its very dificult find information, now i have a E9 version.

Saludos cachondos

I am a cimatron user as well almost for 5 years.I am using both cimatron it 13.3 and elite 8.5.Cimatron is very succesful on CAM.

HI Guys
I need some tutorials on basics of Cimatron. I tried but I didnt find any forum or blog on cimatron. Would anyone like to help???