View Full Version : My BF-200 is hear! Quality alternative to X2 or X3 Mill.


samim
07-20-2007, 06:17 PM
I finally got my hands on the new BF-200 which is a bigger brother to XJ-9510. Penn Tool Co has been selling the smaller XJ-9510 (BF-16 in Europe) for a long time and they finally brought the bigger version which is the BF-200 (BF-20 in Europe). The BF-16 and BF-20 are available in Europe and they have even bigger versions. The XJ-9510 is similar in size to the Seig Mini-Mill but with much better build quality. The build quality of the bigger BF-200 is superb and much better then anything that Seig makes.

I felt that the XJ-9510 was little small and I would outgrow it. I have seen the mini-mill and its quality and I did not care for it. I was thinking about the X2 or X3 but they are made by same company who make the mini-mill. I was a machining engineer for 10 years and I know that weight is not everything. As soon as I saw the new BF-200 in the sales flyer, I ordered it immediately. This machine is ready right out of the box!


BF-200 at Penntool Company $945

http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/products/products.cfm?categoryID=6692


Smaller XJ-9510 at Penntool Company $595

http://www.penntoolco.com/catalog/products/products.cfm?categoryID=6133


Spec. – Metric Version

http://www.optimum-overseas.com/pdf/Opti_BF20-Vario.pdf


Optimum BF20 Vario in Europe

http://www.top-maschinen.de/maschinen/fraesmaschinen/optimum-fraesmaschine-bf20-vario/index.htm

http://www.optimum-machines.com/products/milling-machines/bf-20-vario/index.html

http://naradi.czeso.cz/scripts/podrobnosti.php?IDZ=3338120&track_mod=souvis


Closeup pics

http://www.tooltalk.ch/cpg132/thumbnails.php?album=2

http://www.students.tut.fi/~kontkant/bf20.php.html


Review – In German

http://www.stuermer-maschinen.de/fileadmin/Flyer/Optimum/HT_bf20vario_1004.pdf

samim
07-20-2007, 06:22 PM
pics

samim
07-20-2007, 06:26 PM
Pics

tai42
07-20-2007, 06:48 PM
Nice mill!

Interesting that the specs from Penn Tool say the dials are all graduated in 0.001", but in the last picture it is labeled 0.002". Might want to double check which one is right.

samim
07-20-2007, 07:00 PM
I am going to install scales on the table so I am not worried about the dials at all. It is most likely metric.

I think I am the first one in the country to have this mill. Penntool just received 5 and and I bought one of them.

ataxy
07-20-2007, 07:31 PM
its 0.002 the wsm20v i got from garant is the same machine basicly only the power switch box wich is different
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39377

InspirationTool
07-20-2007, 07:36 PM
Pretty nice looking machine.

I used to have a CNC XJ-95 that I sold.... The MT2 spindle was a limitation. Too bad this larger version still has that spindle.

-Jeff

samim
07-20-2007, 07:51 PM
ataxy, what did you pay for yours? I paid $945+$90 US for shipping. Grant is listing theirs for $1699.

ataxy
07-20-2007, 09:48 PM
yes thats what i paid but it came loaded with stuff (6 2flutes hss end mill, er25 chuck with 6 collar, tilting&rotating vise, 50pieces clamp set, a bunch of screwdriver, hex key, wrench and a nice steel cabinet) it came to a bit more then what you paid but in the end if i would take into account the hassle of importing it from the us it comes down to the same price also for those who would interrested garant as not put it yet on there web site but they got the Bf-30 mill for around 2200cnd and to give you an idea for those that as not seen spec of the Bf-30 it in size and power wise between a superx3 and rf45 at ~450pound with a 1hp variable dc motor

SPECIFICATION:
Model No. WMD30V

Max. drilling capacity 32mm
Max. end milling capacity 20mm
Max. face milling capacity 76mm
Table size 700x210mm (27.5x8.25)
Cross travel 220mm (8.66)
Longitudinal travel 425mm (16.25)
Vertical travel 370mm (14.5)
Taper of spindle bore MT3 (garant will have it with a r8 quill)
Spindle stroke 70mm
T-key size 12mm
Range of spindle speeds 50-3000rpm
Headstock tilt left & right ±90°
Motor 1.1kw

Packing size 710x890x1120mm

Net weight 220kg
Gross weight 260kg