View Full Version : torchmate verses plasma cam


balto
06-19-2007, 06:57 AM
I'm going to buy either a, 4x4 torchmate with router attachment or a plasma cam. Can't make up my mind. I need advise on which one to buy. Please help.

massajamesb
06-19-2007, 08:44 AM
I would personally lean more to the Torchmate machine myself if I only had those two to choose from. I say that mainly because I have seen some good customer support on this list from Torchmate, and I do not personally care for the PlasmaCam. I don't own either unit, though.

I will say that there are a number of other manufacturers out there that should not be ignored (DynaCnc,EZRouter,Dynatorch,etc), as they all make a very nice and very capable 4x4 machine as well.

Check with Mike from Torchmate on here, he has always seemed to be very helpful with any questions about Torchmates machines.

balto
06-19-2007, 08:58 AM
Thanks, I haven't ruled out others, but being new to this, i'm haven't problems finding tables that handle both, plasma and routing. The plasma torch I bought is the, Hypertherm powermax 1000, with hand held torch.

massajamesb
06-19-2007, 09:16 AM
That is a nice plasma cutter there!
Many advertise that you can do routing and plasma with their tables, I would have to say that you are probably looking at a machine that is meant mainly for plasma, but could be used for a light amount of wood routing. This is not a poke at any company, it is merely my opinion.

The drive systems and linear bearings on a smaller table like a 4x4 may not be strong enough to support heavy duty router work. Before purchasing, you should really decide on how much you will run the table, and what you will be doing the majority of the time.

I would advise you to be wary of big flashy catalogs that might mislead you. :) Those are made by people in marketing and advertising, who may or may not know anything at all about what they are really selling.:)

balto
06-19-2007, 09:29 AM
Maybe I'd be better off buying a plasma table and building a table for routing?
I could use my plasa table as a pattern.

Mike@Torchmate
06-19-2007, 09:51 AM
I would advise you to be wary of big flashy catalogs that might mislead you. :) Those are made by people in marketing and advertising, who may or may not know anything at all about what they are really selling.:)

I would agree entirely, and even worse off is the people who claim that their machines can do it and then fail to support that claim, or charge you to teach you how to utilize it.

What are you intending to route with the machine? This will play a factor in the table and what you need in order to make your application work. The material support bed on the 4x4 small shop machine, while set up for plasma cutting, doesn't have a very deep support bed. You may be interested in going with a kit form table so that you can build it to your needs and have various adjustable support beds or even two support beds if you plan to switch between plasma and routing often.

Also if you do call up and ask for a quote, be sure to get quoted on the larger 264 oz in motors which they should ask you for if you intend to do any routing with the machine.

-Mike

balto
06-19-2007, 10:01 AM
Just got off the phone with, Torchmate. Nice people to deal with. Joe is working me up a price quote. I've about decided to forget the plasma router combo and build a seprate router table.

PlasmaCAM
06-19-2007, 02:18 PM
Remember we are here at PlasmaCAM to answer any questions you may have. We have great support to get you up and going. Also if you are ever in the area please feel free to visit and see our operation and machine in action. Your satisfaction is very important to us.

balto
06-21-2007, 04:17 PM
I bought the, Torchmate 4x4 table. Believe it or not but, I ordered it yesterday and it was shipped today. I did wire the money but was told it could be two week. I'm impressed, so far.

Mike@Torchmate
06-21-2007, 04:21 PM
I bought the, Torchmate 4x4 table. Believe it or not but, I ordered it yesterday and it was shipped today. I did wire the money but was told it could be two week. I'm impressed, so far.

If you need any help as far as the instructions go or setting up the table, feel free to call in. I know the 4x4 instructions are a little worse for the wear, but we should be able to help you in any way necessary.

balto
06-21-2007, 05:40 PM
Thanks, Mike. I'll try not to brother you anymore than I have to, but probably will need some help. By the way, sense you now use, USB, will a laotop work ok for the PC? I have a Sony VGN620 with 80 gig hard drive and a external 500 gig hard drive, so it has plenty of memory. 256 ram.

Mike@Torchmate
06-21-2007, 05:44 PM
Thanks, Mike. I'll try not to brother you anymore than I have to, but probably will need some help. By the way, sense you now use, USB, will a laotop work ok for the PC? I have a Sony VGN620 with 80 gig hard drive and a external 500 gig hard drive, so it has plenty of memory. 256 ram.

Yes that Laptop should work fine with our USB signal generator. Like I said, anything you need don't feel bad to call on bother us. :)

xavier2nd
06-24-2007, 04:16 PM
I have a 4'x8' torchmate. (wish i would have gotten the 5x10)

I had called and spoke to everyone about CNC's. For me the torchmate worked best. Was it the best one??? not sure, but fit my needs the best. I needed the ability to side load and a steel table. We're hard on our equipment, so it had to be steel.

Torchmate has pretty good customer service and tech support.

I had called Plasmacam (which I think is also Samson now, but not 100%) and the service was the worse. I felt if I was treated that way before buying the table, Imagine how they will treat me after I buy the table.

I went to a guys shop who had both torchmate and a plasmacam. He had the plasma cam just sitting there out of comission (broken down). I guess he got tired of dealing with plasmacam so he got a torchmate. He said the plasmacam is good for hobbiest, but not for heavy work.

I remember the DynaCNC (I think it was) being a very nice table, good price, came ready to work. Just didn't fit my needs.

Good luck.

balto
06-24-2007, 04:30 PM
Thanks for the help. I bought the torchmate, 4x4. Should get it, Wednesday, the 27th. Really looking forward to it and if all works out planning on building a table for a router.

xavier2nd
06-24-2007, 04:53 PM
if it's not late, spend the extra on a 4'x8' if you have the space.

balto
06-24-2007, 04:58 PM
It's too late. The 4x4 has already been shipped. I'm on a tight budget is why i bought the 4x4. When I build the router table, I'll build it bigger and heavier, for plasma and router. thanks for trying.

alliance_metal
03-02-2008, 05:03 AM
I beg to differ... I own a PlasmaCAM, and the TECH service is great, and the machine is more than capable of doing heavy work.. I'm in the middle of a 1350 part job right now.

kirkln
04-12-2008, 10:25 AM
I bought my torchmate used it was 4 years old I had a problem with the signal generator they were going to give me one free I ended up just doing a good cleaning of the board and it has worked good Cheers to TORCHMATE

hotrodder
05-20-2008, 01:19 AM
Hello, I am within a week or two of buying a CNC plasma. I am wandering which plasma table is going to be better, and if it will give me the quality I am looking for. I understand that the cut quality has to do alot with the plasma cutter, and the smoothness has alot to do with the table. I am leaning towards a Torchmate III (4x8table). Can anyone tell me if one machine is better than another, and if there are other brands I should be looking at?

jddurham
05-20-2008, 02:34 PM
The Table you are looking at should work fine spend the extra money for the THC control
And buy a good plasma cutter.
The great thing about the tourchmate is a few months latter you see that you need to modified your table you can do so without a lot of expense
JD