Hi all,

I ran a Hurco VM1 for maybe 4 months last summer. It was my first CNC experience and it was a blast......About all I did was use dxf drawings from Solidworks and assign my feeds, speeds, etc...Pretty basic stuff...

To make a long story short I left that company for a design job...full time design isn't as exciting as I thought. Now I have an opportunity for 1/2 design 1/2 cnc and couldn't be more excited. The company has a VM2 and a few old Hawks...Now my question is, does anybody know of any Hurco specific publications? Or even a good "all around" CNC book? Basically, like I stated earlier I have some experience and a TON of learning to do. Any help is much appreciated.

RTFM = Read the Fabulous manuals

I used to run a KM3 with the MaxII control.

The Hurco Conversational language is prolly the most powerful at machine control language out there. Its limited more by the programmers lack of imagination than anything else.

But it is not the most efficient for cutting in a production enviroment. It will cut air, excessive tool retracts, etc which waste time the machine could be cutting.

You need to get and learn a good CAD/CAM package to balance out the Hurco. I would sometimes output G-code to define a pocket profile, then use those numbers in the Hurco.

The manuals I got for both the NC executive and converstaional were actually pretty good - and it helps that you've had hands on so you may recognise the topics presented.

I use to be a Senior Application Engineer at Hurco. The manuals I have are an intro for $40.00 and a advanced for $70.00 includes the intro in it. These manuals have screen dumps and a button by button list of instructions. All commands are in bold and underlined. So you can tell the text from the command. The screen dumps show where you should be (no guessing). I have trained close to 10 classes using these manuals. So they are tested and have a copy write. Send me your email and I will do a print screen on a page and send it to you. gsilberberg@progressive-plastics.net I had my son at 16 program the Hurco I have at work straight out of the manual. He has zero machining experience. He did not even know what he was doing he was just reading the text and doing what it said.

I use to be a Senior Application Engineer at Hurco. The manuals I have are an intro for $40.00 and a advanced for $70.00 includes the intro in it. These manuals have screen dumps and a button by button list of instructions. All commands are in bold and underlined. So you can tell the text from the command. The screen dumps show where you should be (no guessing). I have trained close to 10 classes using these manuals. So they are tested and have a copy write. Send me your email and I will do a print screen on a page and send it to you. gsilberber@progressive-plastics.net I had my son at 16 program the Hurco I have at work straight out of the manual. He has zero machining experience. He did not even know what he was doing he was just reading the text and doing what it said.


Perfect! Sent you an email!

I lied. Something is wrong with your email, I keep receiving a return to sender error message. Please email me the example.

hey jetski i tried to mail you but it dident work
im intrested in your manuals the advanced one

can u mail me please asap as my boss is on my ass

mcauliffegav@yahoo.com

jetski can u mail me re your home brew manuals
mcauliffegav@yahoo.com thanks in advance
gav

Sorry for the email address here is the real one gsilberberg@progressive-plastics.net email me there. I forgot how to spell my last name. I can ship over a page so you can review it before you buy it. Sure I am a good programer...I just can't spell worth a $%*t.

I lied. Something is wrong with your email, I keep receiving a return to sender error message. Please email me the example.

Sorry I am didgitaly impeared. And I can't spell either.
send me your email and I will send you a sample page.

jetski, can I ask to see a part of the manual too?

Sorry for the email address here is the real one gsilberberg@progressive-plastics.net email me there. I forgot how to spell my last name. I can ship over a page so you can review it before you buy it. Sure I am a good programer...I just can't spell worth a $%*t.

I emailed you and haven't received a reply. I'm also interested in these manuals. Please PM me here or email me at radius_sv@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Michael

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Wow dont know if that worked but hopefully. This is just one page. I also will do phone support. I do ball bar testing. I also do in house training or you can come here for training. Intro manual is $40.00 USD and the Advanced is $70.00 USD.
Call for on site training of up to 4 people. One day of training will be for intro and another 1/2 day for advanced. I can do training on the weekend also. It will take 12 hours to do intro and advance training. I can cram it into one 12 hour day but you have to have some experience cnc wise to do this. I can do training on a VM2 at my facility also. Up to 4 people. Weekends only. Unless special agangements are made.


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Jetski

gavin81 wont pay the bill. I sent the manuals. He said he needed them quickly. So I figured a brother in need. He said they worked great. Sent the manuals and guess what..no money yet 3 months later. Countless emails. I guess I chalk this up to experience. So I guess I will use this as a warning and a lesson. Get the cash first! Gavin I hope you read this. I just need the cash. Remember back when this was an emergency! 3 months ago. Gavin I will keep sending emails and pleas till I get the cash. I will also post a reply when I get my cash.

gavin81 wont pay the bill. I sent the manuals. He said he needed them quickly. So I figured a brother in need. He said they worked great. Sent the manuals and guess what..no money yet 3 months later. Countless emails. I guess I chalk this up to experience. So I guess I will use this as a warning and a lesson. Get the cash first! Gavin I hope you read this. I just need the cash. Remember back when this was an emergency! 3 months ago. Gavin I will keep sending emails and pleas till I get the cash. I will also post a reply when I get my cash.

That was a rude way to treat someone who helped you.

Gavin, Man up and cover your debts.

i am still learning to, my first machine was an old hurco hawk and it was great, so easy to pick up from no previous experience, as the other guy said once you understand the basics of the controls its only limited by your imagination, the only time i ever used a manual was if the machine was broken down lol (which seemed to happen often as it was pretty old) now i am using fanuc om controls and it is much more involved with all the g codses and stuff but again once you understand it its down to imagination, but i must say i feel the fanuc is much more versatile than the hurco conversational style programming:)

jetski can u mail me re your home brew manuals
mcauliffegav@yahoo.com thanks in advance
gav

Hey Gavin funs over send the damn money. I am going to keep posting on the site till you pay. You sure needed the manuals bad, then sent a email to say how well they worked. Time to pay up! tired of waiting but not of typing nasty grams on public forums.
For all out there do not send anything to any body no matter how they say they need it yesterday. Trust will kick you in the bill fold. If any body wants please help me in bombarding gavin with pay up email. Thanks for any spam you can send his way. He needs a daily supply of Viagra and male enhancement drugs.
Gavin please just pay the $70.00 you know you owe me.

i am still learning to, my first machine was an old hurco hawk and it was great, so easy to pick up from no previous experience, as the other guy said once you understand the basics of the controls its only limited by your imagination, the only time i ever used a manual was if the machine was broken down lol (which seemed to happen often as it was pretty old) now i am using fanuc om controls and it is much more involved with all the g codses and stuff but again once you understand it its down to imagination, but i must say i feel the fanuc is much more versatile than the hurco conversational style programming:)

Send me some information on what you are trying to do. I will do my best to help.

RTFM = Read the Fabulous manuals

I used to run a KM3 with the MaxII control.

The Hurco Conversational language is prolly the most powerful at machine control language out there. Its limited more by the programmers lack of imagination than anything else.

But it is not the most efficient for cutting in a production enviroment. It will cut air, excessive tool retracts, etc which waste time the machine could be cutting.

You need to get and learn a good CAD/CAM package to balance out the Hurco. I would sometimes output G-code to define a pocket profile, then use those numbers in the Hurco.

The manuals I got for both the NC executive and converstaional were actually pretty good - and it helps that you've had hands on so you may recognise the topics presented.

That is funny stuff. We have 2 of them but I would not dare say that they have good conversational.

Well - Its like using an HP calculator - it requires a different and somewhat abstract way of thinking.

BTW - I can write a "short program" which will take a long time to complete or a longer "verbos" program which has tripple the number of blocks that runs much faster.

If you don't use "pattern" functions and "parameter" blocks often then your not getting full output potential of the machine.

I agree Hurco lacks in 3d and may have some short commings. I use to work with a Fanuc 160i, Bridgeport EZtrack, Fagor, and a few others. I just have not seen something I can get someone programing on in several hours like the Hurco. You do need a secondary cam package no question. Their 3d is realy more 2.5 D (like AutoCad in the early 80's). You can make gutter shapes (extrusions), rotations like footballs, or rotations like marry-go-rounds. Anything more than that and you better break out the high end Cam package. With it being a pc control the one thing I never understood is why Huco wont hook up with Bob-cad or master cam and make it an option on the machine. Take the machine to the next level all in one. We are a small mold shop with no manual mills (2 cncs only). I made it that way. I dont need rotary tables, sine vises, height gages, volstro heads, or a lot of other secondary equipment like other shops. I have cut my overhead.