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steveUK
03-07-2004, 05:52 PM
Hi All,
Completed building a 4 foot by 8 foot X Y table recently. I am presently building a Q switched YAG laser to attach to the table. I wish to use this for ablation. Probably mainly on stainless steel. Started to worry about the fumes given off by this sort of process. Am I going one step too far for a hobby machine? Any advise on the sensibility of this and control of the fumes would be appreciated.

Steve.

HuFlungDung
08-15-2004, 10:42 AM
Hmm, first lets find out what ablation is :D

1. Surgical excision or amputation of a body part or tissue.
2. The erosive processes by which a glacier is reduced.
3. Aerospace. The dissipation of heat generated by atmospheric friction, especially in the atmospheric reentry of a spacecraft or missile, by means of a melting heat
shield.

Okay, so under condition 1, it might smell like burning meat, condition 2, it should just be steam, and condition 3, the whole darn thing is vaporized. :D

Ya, I'd be concerned about the fumes. I'd do some research to see how to collect and reduce the fumes.

steveUK
08-15-2004, 12:49 PM
An appropriate definition for ablation. May be found at http://www.me.mtu.edu/~microweb/chap4/ch4-2.htm

and is, quote:- "Ablation, in the broadest sense, is removal of material because of the incident light"

Sadly however, judging from the number of responses to this thread, there does not seem to be a lot of hobby CNC'ers Ablating, and I thought everybody was doing it!

scottsss
08-15-2004, 05:23 PM
Just look at it cost wise, it is out of reach for the hobbyest. I would like to build a laser cutting system but the cost of the laser is what is holding me back. I've not seen any good deals on ebay. Though I look time to time. Also most of the units that will do a decent job in metal are not something I can just load in the back on my pickup truck and hall home.

I have been toying with the idea of ECM. Though if I had a standard shape round or square that I could plung errode metal in the shape I want. Think that would be cheaper to set up then a laser. Though right now it is just an idea at the back of my head sort of bouncing around. Though it would not be a quick process.

steveUK
08-16-2004, 03:16 AM
The laser I am finishing building, will have cost around $3000, not cheap I agree. However I should have one heck of a tool for my $s when it is complete. Hopefully I will be able to recover some of the costs by doing a few small jobs with it, that can't be easily managed with conventional kit. Such as cutting accurate shapes in ceramics.

Graham S
08-16-2004, 02:07 PM
How powerful is your laser going to be (if it works)??

I am considering a homebuilt flowing gas laser, much easier and cheaper. Apparently (according to Sams Laser FAQ's) they just want to lase.

You probably just need some extraction.

Graham

p.s. Isn't this a daft forum for this topic to be moved to, who actually checks out the safety forum, good job there is a redirect in the general forum.

scottsss
08-16-2004, 02:36 PM
Post some pictures of the finished laser system. I'd be interested in seeing it and the work your capable of doing with it.

steveUK
08-16-2004, 02:40 PM
Hi Graham,

Due to the laser being Q Switched it will develop in excess of 3 Mega joules per pulse, at 26 pulses a second.

Steve.

steveUK
08-16-2004, 02:50 PM
Scott,

Thanks for your interest, will definitely post some pics when completed. Have also got a second laser on the go, which I hope to use for engraving this one is only 80 watts continuous (a baby). This is the most likely to get completed first. The CNC X Y table is completed and works, has been tried out with a cheap Plasma cutter, but still scratching my head a bit at how to deliver the laser beam.

Steve.

ImanCarrot
02-28-2007, 10:44 AM
Extraction yes! definately... apart from the safety aspects, your beam may be incident through ablated (vaporised) substrate and hence be slightly weaker (like going through clouds).. it may re/ defocus the beam.. Extract axtract extract.