carbidecraters
01-27-2007, 11:40 AM
Looking for one or two for our Frank, AL, Dave and Larry mills
|
View Full Version : Who makes a good Mutli-Axis head for a Fadal carbidecraters 01-27-2007, 11:40 AM Looking for one or two for our Frank, AL, Dave and Larry mills cadman 01-27-2007, 12:25 PM The Tri-Tech 5 axis head is probably the only real plug and play kit for the Fadals. It does have it's quirks, like the servos attached to the head, and some minor accuracy issues depending on who you talk to. Not as rigid as an OEM 5 axis machine. You will lose work envelope that maybe acceptable on a 6535/6030/8030 but substantial on a 4525/4020. And not cheap. But cheaper than buying an OEM 5 axis machine and you will have true, full 5 axis capability. They also have full 360 degree rotary movement and the spindle will tilt 180 degrees. I do know shops that use it and they are happy with it. Personally, I wish I had bought one when I still had my shop. I had to turn away a lot of work because I lacked full 5 axis and/or 3+2 machining capability that required single setups. carbidecraters 01-27-2007, 01:21 PM Hmmm thats a nice little head! How much are they? cadman 01-27-2007, 02:24 PM Looking at the quote I got in 3/2003, retail pricing was as follows: Head - $47,300.00 Standard machine adapter (includes fabrication & fasteners as needed) - $1,900.00 Onsite installation and training (plus travel) - $720.00 Post processor (option) - $2,500.00 ________________________________________ The current model head has upgraded gears and is supposed to be more rigid and accurate. From what I understand, some shops had problems with true position on holes, and this may have been because of the older gears. An additional advantage with this head is you can uninstall and reinstall it as needed, it is not a permanent installation unless you choose to leave it on. Neal 01-28-2007, 09:11 PM Carbidecraters-- Just to keep the record straight, It is Francis, ADRIAN, david and Larry! Neal Neal 01-28-2007, 09:15 PM The best 5 axis device would depend alot on the application. The Tri-Tech Head is a great device but not for all applications. The Fadal TR-165 is also a great device but ,again, is right for every application. Best advise is to investigate each device keeping in mind whAT YOU ARE GOING TO USE IT FOR. nEAL jrjoet 01-29-2007, 07:36 AM Looking for one or two for our Frank, AL, Dave and Larry mills I have a 5 axis Fadal rotary table for sale asking is $7500.00. VH65 model. 847-490-7543 Joe T. cadman 01-29-2007, 08:44 AM The VH65 is standard 4 axis table, not the 5 axis tiliting rotary table. jrjoet 01-29-2007, 10:00 AM The VH65 is standard 4 axis table, not the 5 axis tiliting rotary table. I'm trying to verify the model now. You can see a picture on my website. www.msiused.com ajl6549 01-29-2007, 10:16 AM it looks like a tilting rotery table to me DareBee 01-29-2007, 10:20 AM 5 axis = yes. VH65 = no. jrjoet 01-29-2007, 10:21 AM It is a tilting and turning, do you have any interest? rschap1 01-29-2007, 11:59 AM My employer is investigating more 5 axis equipment currently. We did just get a Fadal trunion to cut graphite on. It looks like a very robust piece that would surely take more than we will give it. We own alot of hass TR160s taht we do 5 axis CBN grinding on. Compact size and handy interface with our Haas VF2s. But not made for HEAVY abuse. Nikken is being looked at now. Super Duty and expensive. LOTS of size and configuration options. May not be as pricey in the long run. Durability and longevity are on their side for sure. My former employer used lots of them well beyond their intended capabilities and they did live through it. ajl6549 01-29-2007, 12:32 PM We had a Tsudakoma(sp?) on a mori seki v65 type vertical, it worked well but was somewhat fragile. It was "bumped into and req'd. 7k in repairs. carbidecraters 01-29-2007, 01:58 PM That thing is $50,000.00 LOL I can make 4 for less money than that. Guess thats the problem making parts for machinists. 50K....what pratell is worth 50 grand on that toy head? |