View Full Version : Has anyone tried to convert this mill?


david_geng
01-08-2007, 04:42 PM
Hi,

I learned that Sieg X* serials have been very popular for CNC conversion. However, I find this one

http://www.chesteruk.myzen.co.uk/store/champion20_variable_speed_mill.htm

This mill claims "high precision taper roller bearing", does it help much? It's head can be rotated, maybe just like the Super X3. A drawback is that it has MT2 spindle instead of a preferred R8. I'm think it might also have other brand name.

As a newbie to the CNC conversion, I wondered how difficult to convert this mill to a CNC mill?

Cheers
David

InspirationTool
01-08-2007, 05:01 PM
That looks *very* similar to my XJ-95 conversion from KDNTool...

See:

http://jeffalbro.net/cnc/xj-95/

For my review.

If you are doing parts where you need to change the cutter, and your time is worth something to you, stay away and stick with an R8, or at least an MT3.

I'd suggest getting a pre-made CNC machine. It's very hard to beat Syil's price/performance.

-Jeff

david_geng
01-08-2007, 05:19 PM
I'd suggest getting a pre-made CNC machine. It's very hard to beat Syil's price/performance.


I really like Syil's product and it's still on top of my list. Howerver, as I'm in UK, I need to import it from China, and at the moment, I'm still wait for a quote from my forwarder regarding the import cost, including the freight, insurance, customs duty, and etc.

InspirationTool
01-08-2007, 06:04 PM
Try Syil America or Syil USA...

http://www.syilamerica.com/

http://members.cox.net/syilusa/_sgg/f10000.htm

-Jeff

digits
01-09-2007, 03:25 AM
Hi,

I learned that Sieg X* serials have been very popular for CNC conversion. However, I find this one

http://www.chesteruk.myzen.co.uk/store/champion20_variable_speed_mill.htm

This mill claims "high precision taper roller bearing", does it help much? It's head can be rotated, maybe just like the Super X3. A drawback is that it has MT2 spindle instead of a preferred R8. I'm think it might also have other brand name.

As a newbie to the CNC conversion, I wondered how difficult to convert this mill to a CNC mill?

Cheers
David

That is an interesting looking mill - but I can't understand why it has a 700mm long table but only 295mm of X-travel - perhaps the base is too narrow for it to be stable?

Anyway, that machine looks a lot like this BMD-20 that rhonmac seem to do a CNC conversion for:

http://www.rhonmac-cnc.co.uk/milling.htm#Suitable%20milling%20machines

and Wales is a little closer than China ;)

david_geng
01-09-2007, 03:43 AM
Jeff, thanks for your links. Even if I ordered if from US, I would still face the same problems as shipping, importing, etc. But I really like the Syil product ... hard to make the decision.

david_geng
01-09-2007, 03:58 AM
I also wonder, if I can manage to ship the Syil CNC mill from China, how many people in UK would be able to join me for a combined order? as the more we ship the more we can save.

david_geng
01-09-2007, 10:00 AM
FYI, I got a reply from their sales regarding this mill

http://www.chesteruk.myzen.co.uk/store/champion20_variable_speed_mill.htm

"The tolerance for the champion 20VS is as follows:
Run out of spindle hole centre line. - 0.008mm at spindle nose.
0.015mmat a distance of 100mm

These are tolerances, and every machine will have its own test certificate."

Looks pretty good!

oddman
01-09-2007, 03:16 PM
Se Links
www.optimum-maschinen.de are seling the maskin
http://www.optimum-maschinen.de/fileadmin/Kataloge/Optimum/CNC_090306_GB.pdf
http://www.optimum-maschinen.de/fileadmin/Kataloge/Optimum/Katalog_0306_GB.pdf

Regards Odd

MIKE JEFFERS
01-10-2007, 04:03 AM
try ARCEUROTRADE they are doing an x3 cnc'd