View Full Version : My NEW SUPER X3 CNC Mill


danswaay
12-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Hi All,

My mill just arrived and now I need to build a table for it (+ enclosure for chips and coolant). Any help from those who already have a nice setup would be much appreciated.

Also, any help, tips etc for getting all the packing grease off would be helpful too.

I wish to thank the guys at Syilamerica.com. Syilamerica really took good care of me. Thanks guys!

Regards,

Dan

scyan
12-07-2006, 04:42 PM
Hi ! Nice setup... exactly like ours.. hehe

Here's how ours is installed...

Willyb
12-07-2006, 04:45 PM
Hi Dan

Nice looking machine. As far as the Grease goes, get some old rags and varsol to wipe it off. There is really no easy way to clean it up other than using some Elbow Grease. Make sure to give all the bare metal a coat of Oil after cleaning off the Grease or it will rust for sure. Also give the Dovetail Ways and Ball Screws an Oiling before starting to play.

I haven’t built a Stand yet, but I am planning to build a complete enclosure with two sliding front doors. I will be using a Coolant System and I don’t want to be cleaning stuff off of the floor. I hear more Guys talking about having to clean up the floor after using their Mills. It might take a little more work in the beginning, but I think it will make up for it in the end.

Where does the Box go that is all wrapped up with Bubble Wrap? I thought this went inside the rear of the Column? Is it just taken out for Shipping purposes?

Willy

danswaay
12-07-2006, 05:15 PM
Hi All,

After clean up I would like to lap the gibbs and ways (the X & Y Axis).
I did that with my X2 and it really helped.
Anyone here have any experience doing that with their X3?

Any help or ideas/suggestion would be great.

Thanks,

Dan

jinu117
12-07-2006, 05:41 PM
IHS's old method seems to work fine for me. For gibs, I just lap them on the granite plate. It gets mirror shine with some visible scratches but as long as it feels smooth to touch it will do it's job well :)

danswaay
12-07-2006, 06:10 PM
Hi jinu117,

You said "IHS's old method...." What's that?

Dan

jinu117
12-07-2006, 06:34 PM
http://www.industrialhobbies.com/
:) Go check mill tips... plenty of cool stuff to learn :)

danswaay
12-11-2006, 12:44 AM
Hi All,

Well, after much thought and some pain, I built a temporary wood bench for my X3. I plan on having a cutom steel bench welded etc.

The bench is made with 2X4's and 4X4's and a heck-of-a-lot of drywall screws! :) It's real beefy and can easily support the X3's weight.

I think I will also top the bench off with a steel plate.

Any one out there know of an easy way of getting the X3 up onto my bench? About 42 inches UP and OVER! :confused:

Best regards,

Dan :)
(see attached pics)

NinerSevenTango
12-11-2006, 07:53 AM
I hope I wouldn't be too far out of line by suggesting some diagonal bracing on that table. So it doesn't get the jigglies when it gets a little older. :)

For lifting, maybe you could attach a cheap chain hoist to the ceiling, lift the machine up, and slide the table underneath. Your pics don't show your ceiling.

--97T--

scyan
12-11-2006, 10:49 AM
No, you wouldnt be.. i almost did the same this morning but refrained... I will offer an alternative instead. You put a plywood on the top... Put one on both sides and one on the back. Then you can decide if you want some tablets in the front to put all your stuff in them.

The plywood will be stronger than any diagonal bracing and will close that thing real well...

my 2 cents.. ;)

SyilAmerica
12-11-2006, 10:25 PM
Easiest way to move it, would be 4 strong men. If that isn't at the ready then taking it apart is a good option.

We have a "getting started" guide that will be on the support side of our website in the morning that shows you have to remove the table and saddle. The entire machine can be disassembled in 30 minutes or less.

The table looks beefy and great size. Should be perfect.

danswaay
12-11-2006, 10:50 PM
@Syilamerica

Thanks. I look forward to seeing your "getting started" guide!

Regards,

Dan

danswaay
01-29-2007, 08:06 PM
More pics......
The going is slow....but I'm happy......
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

jdinh
01-31-2007, 12:05 AM
Nice setup Dan. That's one hefty vice you got there. Is it a 6" Kurt clone?

danswaay
01-31-2007, 12:20 AM
Hi jdinh,

It's a 5 inch Kurt clone. I cleaned it up and it works very well. I got it from Shars for about ~80 dollars. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

Regards,

Dan

InspirationTool
02-02-2007, 06:36 PM
Does the vise hit the column when the table is at Y minimum?

-Jeff

danswaay
02-04-2007, 11:11 AM
Here is a pic of the 5-inch kurt type vise with the Y-Axis moved as close to the mill column as possible.

I also went down to Fry's and got a 500 dollar HP running XP media edition and after loading Mach3, I ran the wave-form test program found in the root folder of Mach and I must say I got a awesome, very flat line - the flatest I've ever seen! http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

Regards,

Dan

InspirationTool
02-04-2007, 05:38 PM
Thanks for the pic Dave!

I'm thinking of mounting two 4" vises.... by the looks of it, I might even be able to mount them at the middle T slot.

But in the picture... it looks like when the table is at the other end, the spindle is like 2" or so beyond the far end of the table? I mean, the table is 6.3" wide, and the travel is 6.9", and the spindle isn't beyond the near side of the table in the picture.

Also, what's a wave form test program?

Thanks!

-Jeff

danswaay
02-04-2007, 06:33 PM
Hi Jeff,

I'm Dan, but Dave will do.....I guess.http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

Go to the mach3 folder (found in the root c: directory) and inside you will fine a file called, "DriverTest" without the quotes of course. Double click on that to run it and then you will see it test your system for how much noise is generated by your system configuration etc. The more flat the line is, the better! The less jitters your system generates the better Mach3 will be at controlling your NC device etc. Some jittering is ok, but I was amazed at this new HP computer I got from Fry's.....I ran the driver test and the line was basically FLAT.....no jittering at all!

Regards,

Dan
(...not Dave, but DAN) http://www.cnczone.com/forums/images/icons/icon10.gif

InspirationTool
02-04-2007, 06:37 PM
Sorry Dan!

I got confused somewhere along the line.

By "jitters" it sounds like you are measuring how accurately/evenly MACH gets the CPU so that you don't miss a step?

-Jeff

danswaay
02-05-2007, 02:48 PM
Here is a pic of the wave-form from this 500 dollar HP computer running Mach3 2.0 and the line stays that way too!

Dan

SyilAmerica
02-06-2007, 01:10 AM
Just a side note..... You can fit two of our 5" cnc machinist vises side by side on the table and have enough travel for both.

keithorr
02-08-2007, 09:22 PM
Hi All,

My mill just arrived and now I need to build a table for it (+ enclosure for chips and coolant). Any help from those who already have a nice setup would be much appreciated.

Also, any help, tips etc for getting all the packing grease off would be helpful too.

I wish to thank the guys at Syilamerica.com. Syilamerica really took good care of me. Thanks guys!

Regards,

Dan

Where did the stepper 4th axis come from? Syil doesn't show one on their website. Another source?

danswaay
02-08-2007, 09:28 PM
Hi,

SyilAmerica.com sells a 4th Axis (rotary table).

Just email them and ask.

Dan

keithorr
02-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Hi,

SyilAmerica.com sells a 4th Axis (rotary table).

Just email them and ask.

Dan

The website shows a $595 upgrade with a manual wheel, not stepper. Didn't realize they had a cnc 4th axis. Have you used it yet? Any backlash or instability when milling?

danswaay
02-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Hi,

I ordered pretty much everything that SyilAmerica offered on the mill, 4th axis and spindle upgrade etc.

The $595 upgrade SyilAmerica offers is the 4th axis with stepper etc. This picture they have is just a stock photo and there is a blurb about updating it when he has the time etc.

I have not used the 4th axis yet on my mill.

I will be using the rotary table soon as I'm going to cut grooves in a plastic pipe much like the striped rotating pole from a barber shop. I will be mounting the rotary table in a horizontal position facing another rotary table (with worm disengaged) to support both sides of the pipe while it is being grooved.

Regards,

Dan

keithorr
02-08-2007, 11:16 PM
I see now. Didn't realize I had to read:o I thought I was at IHOP and ordering from the pictures.

PatathomeSittin
02-09-2007, 09:00 PM
Sorry about that.. On my list of things to do,...

dcody40
02-13-2007, 07:48 PM
Nice pics, Now that pic of the 5" monster vice, I have the same one, but don't have the grizly G0619 yet. I unpacked the vice and said Oh no, its to big, well now I'm happy.
PS can anyone advise about using a 6" rotary table, on this mill ?...tnx. Duane