View Full Version : "HACKING" the optional functions on the Haas control?


AMCTony
12-02-2006, 03:47 PM
Has anyone been able to guess the code for permenantly turning on the optional functions like rigid tapping on a Haas control?

Geof
12-02-2006, 03:56 PM
It is not a constant code so you cannot guess 'the' code. When you buy different machines with the same options the turn-on code is different.

AMCTony
12-02-2006, 04:01 PM
It was my understanding that it is a 5 digit code that is constant to the particular machine but like you said, different for every individual machine. I was wondering if anyone ever was able to do it.

Geof
12-02-2006, 04:44 PM
... a 5 digit code...
I suppose you could try entering all 99,999 variations on a five digit code. Although if I had written the machine code I would make it lock up after a number of wrong attempts so I don't recommend that. I think I will stick to gritting my teeth and paying the sometimes exorbitant (in my opinion) price for the options.

NC Cams
12-02-2006, 04:46 PM
Haas learned well from Fanuc on how to generate profit from selling parameters and/or codes to make stuff work.

Geof
12-02-2006, 04:53 PM
Haas learned well from Fanuc on how to generate profit from selling parameters and/or codes to make stuff work.

Yes, I just orded a VF2, base price a few dollars less than $48,000; price after I include the options I need almost $66,000.

AMCTony
12-02-2006, 05:00 PM
One of the Haas techs told me that I am welcome to try to guess it, maybe I will get lucky. Did try around 150 different codes, no luck yet. Reminds me of a slot machine :)

tobyaxis
12-02-2006, 05:04 PM
It was my understanding that it is a 5 digit code that is constant to the particular machine but like you said, different for every individual machine. I was wondering if anyone ever was able to do it.

Honestly it isn't worth the hassle of a "Machine Lockup" to save a few thousand dollars. I'm with the others on this one. Grin and bare the expense of paying for it.

I have many people ask me this in my line of work and they get very upset when I tell them "No"!!! You call Fanuc, HAAS, or Yasnac and pay for it, then have them call me.

Would you want people steeling from you? ;)

AMCTony
12-02-2006, 05:16 PM
I am forced to agree with you toby. Not to mention the 50 to 60 hours of punching in numbers for an option that cost $1000.

tobyaxis
12-02-2006, 05:21 PM
I am forced to agree with you toby. Not to mention the 50 to 60 hours of punching in numbers for an option that cost $1000.

Look on the bright side, the numbers you pay for will work with little or no effort at all. Plus the added benifit of a Machine Producing parts. :)

cnc-king
12-02-2006, 07:29 PM
Has anyone been able to guess the code for permenantly turning on the optional functions like rigid tapping on a Haas control?

rigid tapping is not an option on Haas, all the Haases we bought rigid tapping was standard equip. i think your salesman is screwing with you

take a look at parameter #57 the rigid tap function is located there

tobyaxis
12-02-2006, 07:39 PM
rigid tapping is not an option on Haas, all the Haases we bought rigid tapping was standard equip. i think your salesman is screwing with you

take a look at parameter #57 the rigid tap function is located there

Thanks, I forgot about that. It is advertised on there site as being standard. Sorry AMCTony for the misinformation. Actually I should have rememberd this since last weeks Job was with HAAS VF-2's.

1ctoolfool
12-02-2006, 08:17 PM
different options are standard on different machines.
Rigid tapping is not standard on TM's or MiniMills.
All programmable options have 200 hours of free trials which is a lot in my opinion since it is 200 hours of actual use of the feature.
I must admit that I was a little peeved at paying for some of the options but now that I have had the machine for several months I feel like it is an awesome machine for the money.
The problem is that some of the options you don't really know if you need them till you've used the machine for a couple of months.
joe V.

AMCTony
12-02-2006, 08:42 PM
This Machine is a TM-1 and rigid tapping was an option.

AMCTony
12-02-2006, 08:44 PM
I bought the machine new in 2004 and figured that I would turn the rigid tapping on and off until the hours were used. I am just ticked because it waited till a weekend to turn off when I can do nothing about it until monday.

pit202
12-03-2006, 07:32 AM
the number is counted by a haas serial number and the option, maybe if we get as many as we hava serial numbers and codes , maybe we can get the calculation needet to calculate the rigth code ?

Gandalf
12-03-2006, 11:28 AM
If something breaks and they fix your machine with a code that was not paid for or registered to your machine, they can legally refuse to give you warranty. On equipment worth 100K it just is not worth it.

Stay clean, grind your teeth and pay.

I have 5 Haas machines in my shop and I know it is maddening to see what they cash in while Deckel mills came with everything as long as you had bought the board in the beginning. But this is just the way it is!