Hi Folks, Here at BobCAD they refer to me as Rocket I am the training coordinator .... We are making some great strides in getting people 100% up to speed thru training in the BobCAD world. We have lots of options to insure you can use the software to it's full potential. So if your a machinest or engineer and want training we have a customized solution to fit your needs.

BobCAD-CAM Training Options

Seminars: 50 Weeks a year 3 day training seminars across the country

Online: Our state of the art WEBX 1 on 1 Online training (Mon-Fri 8:30am to 6pm, Sat. 10:30am-2pm)

Private: At your facility, we will come to you and get you and your employees 100% up to speed with BobCAD-CAM

Inhouse: Here at the BobCAD-CAM facility in the tropical paradise of Florida.

How much does something like an in-house training class cost?
CNC Dude

Thats a great question. We have the best Training prices in this industry and all that info can be found out by calling the coordinator at 877-262-2231 X 127. Or you could just drive over here Chris.

Thats a great question. We have the best Training prices in this industry and all that info can be found out by calling the coordinator at 877-262-2231 X 127. Or you could just drive over here Chris.


This sounds great Trainerguy, but I have one question. Does one have to hand over their Control of the Computer over to you, or is it a side by side interaction?

This is not meant to be a offensive remark in any way shape or form, but there are very few people that would be willing to hand over the Control of their PC to anyone. Aside from that most people Learn by doing things themselves, not by watching someone else do something.

Can you get a little more into detail on how the "WEBX" works?

This sounds really COOL:rainfro:

Hello everyone and trainerguy\rocket....One thing that was ommited in this post is that all the training is done by Sorin Nenu. I am that guy and have been doing all the Bobcad training seminars for the past 3 1/2 years. Many of you know me here because my training videos that I have created for some of you guys. I have a down to earth approach to the training because unlike other trainers out there I AM a machinist by trade and when you come to one of my classes, you will deal with one of you, with a guy that cuts chips on the weekend and trains durring the week. All my training is done through Bobcad and if interested please call their training dept and ask about both options. Option one is for you to attend one of our calsses in one of the major US cities. The class is limited to 18 people so we can have enough time to spend with each attendees. Option 2 is "on site training" where we come to your own shop and train you personally , your employees or fellow workers.
Best regards,
Sorin Nenu

Hey Toby, Great question and your absolutely right!! Let me give you the run down on WEBX and I totally agree with you, this is coming from a PC guy that has $4000.00 into his system, so giving control of the PC to someone else doesn't tickle my fancy and on the learning standpoint not an effective way to get information to stick.

1) your not giving control of your computer but working side by side with a trainer we have a team of incredibly knowledgable trainers here at BobCAD that are ready to do sessions within 24hrs notice.
2) Your connected to our BobCAD server so you do not even have to be at the PC that has BobCAD installed, and your still able to work with your own files. The misconception people have is that the trainers will do what you want to learn......NO...The trainers have the ability to take over control of the mouse to direct/instruct/correct, but you as the student will actually do the work so that the information sticks.

Let me recap how this all works:
You call to schedule a session within 24hrs and send any specific files to work on VIA Email.
You recieve a call from the trainer 5 minutes before scheduled time.
You connect to the BobCAD Server VIA WebX through one of 3 methods.
The trainers will adapt to your learning curve and use this to boost your confidence and knowledge with BobCAD through proven methods.
Your only deducted the time that you are actually getting trained and there is no minimum time or max time.

Hope that covers it for you Tory, Holler if you have any more questions.

This question might sound mean, but it is not intended to be mean.

What Machining experience does your WEBX team have? As a qualified user of BCC V17-V21 and Machinist in CNC Milling, Turning, and 6 Axis Swiss Screw Machines I am just wondering how a new user of BCC is going to be able to Grasp Machining with BCC WEBX?

Teaching the software is one thing but applying it in a real Machining situation is an intirely different animal.

I think the WEBX is great for people that are new to CAD/CAM, or can't leave the job for training. But for others that aren't Machinists, this posses a small problem.

I know how mean this sounds but it is an Honest Question with good intentions. I wish you luck in your new position at BCC and hope for the best outcome of the new WEBX Training.

Toby, your honesty in the questions you ask are great! It is impossible to be "mean" by asking honest questions.
Our WebX Team are also the tech support guys here at BobCAD and have an average of 12 years exp in the manufacturing industry and between 5 and 8 years with BobCAD software.
As far as the second part of that question "I am just wondering how a new user of BCC is going to be able to Grasp Machining with BCC WEBX?"
Based on the experience of the WebX team and the support they have combined with over a years exp. in doing online training they have the uncanny ability to get the job done.
Honestly Toby people do whole masters degree programs online in this fashion now.
And your right about teaching software as opposed to real world scenerios of machining when your up against deadlines. These are guys that totally understand that and have the experience needed to get you trained in real world scenerios.

Now as far as this statement:
"I think the WEBX is great for people that are new to CAD/CAM, or can't leave the job for training. But for others that aren't Machinists, this posses a small problem."

Untrue! Over the last year we have done webx training with people ranging from no experience in manufacturing to 30 years with the same result...We customize the training to the individual and get you with the correct trainer based on your needs!

Touche' Toby.....I hope I am helping you with your questions and I am grateful you are asking, the main thing to understand is there are 4 options for training to ensure we can get EVERYONE trained based on how they choose to learn and to make sure there is always an option for a busy schedule.

These questions are more for others than myself. I want new members as well as Experienced to be able to get answers to questions that they may have. It helps when most of these Questions are answered early and not 300 posts later, LOL.

This is after all this is an industry that no one person knows everything. That is why I Love it so much. Endless Learning.

The WEBX program looks good so far and if I have anymore questions I'll be sure to post them here to keep things organized.

You have a nice day, and thanks for the information. Hopefully this will clear a fe w things up for others.

:cheers: :rainfro:

Gentlemen,
If I may step in here for a moment. Many years ago, we hired technical support reps that didn't have any experience at all. Looking back at this I can't believe that happened. We relieved ourselves of the concept that "computer" experienced people would be alright. And so, began seeking out individuals that actually had manufacturing experience, and I don't mean swept chips off the floor! We ONLY hire people for tech that are machinists with experience in CAD-CAM. Period. We wouldn't bother talking to anyone else. Therefore, you all can rest assure that when you're introduced to one of our trainers they are standing on solid ground right there with you. Every step of the way.
CNC Dude

Thanks for taking time to add more information to this Chris. I know you guys are working very hard to make sure V22 is up to par. Your new WEBX Team looks very helpful and I wanted to make sure that others that read this know a little about it so they can be confident about this service.

Thanks Again
:cheers:

Hello everyone and trainerguy\rocket....One thing that was ommited in this post is that all the training is done by Sorin Nenu. I am that guy and have been doing all the Bobcad training seminars for the past 3 1/2 years. Many of you know me here because my training videos that I have created for some of you guys. I have a down to earth approach to the training because unlike other trainers out there I AM a machinist by trade and when you come to one of my classes, you will deal with one of you, with a guy that cuts chips on the weekend and trains durring the week. All my training is done through Bobcad and if interested please call their training dept and ask about both options. Option one is for you to attend one of our calsses in one of the major US cities. The class is limited to 18 people so we can have enough time to spend with each attendees. Option 2 is "on site training" where we come to your own shop and train you personally , your employees or fellow workers.
Best regards,
Sorin Nenu Will Trainerguy answer this :shrug:

I don't believe there was anything to respond to. This was just a comment from Sorin on the facts. Sorin is the 'one on one' trainer. When you have a class or on sight training he is the one Bobcad has used for the past 3 plus years.

This is not news to us who have taken the class. Just information added for those who have not.

Anyhow it is nice to hear of the online training available by skilled trainers as well. That is news for all of us who have both had or never had training.

Nah, no question was asked, and my previous posts tell you there are four options and not 2, Our incredible seminar trainer of course wishes all would choose the two options he does but real world does not always allow you to attend those.

I purchased v20 with BobArt ProX and the Nesting package with a 2-seat license for all three programs about a year ago. I have never gotten up and running with it and am considering the 3-day training in my area in March. It looks like I would be wise to include the night sessions along with the rest of the training.

My questions: Since I have little if any CNC experience, will I come away with any knowledge that I can understand and use? Finally....Will I be beaten up over the fact that I have not upgraded to V21? (Your sales staff can be VERY persistent!!)

I have considerable computer knowledge and am VERY mechanically inclined. I have just not done much CNC work. I have 2 CNC routers (one small and one large commercial machine) that I would like to learn to run. I have an AutoCAD professional and a CNC operator on-board, but would like to learn how to generate the code and operate these machines myself.

modified,

Sorin won't berate you for not owning Version 21 and you shouldn't see any sales guys. Though some of the things he will cover may be over your head, because they are not in your system.

As for what you come away with, that is entirely up to you. I have worked with Sorin and to be honest he is a little rough around the edges, but he is one of the few people I have met that is willing not only to share the information he has accumulated over the years but also ensure if you have a question it gets answered(through videos or simple responses).

You will take a great deal from his seminars.

Regards

Thinking Of Taking Part In The Seminar Classes.
My Question Is ... Will I Be Able To Import Customers Prints & Write Complete Programs For The Parts By The End Of The Seminar? I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH NEED FOR DESIGNING , JUST TAKING EXISTING PRINTS & CREATING TOOLPATH & G-CODES.
I Have Watched To Demos I Got W/ My Bobcad V20 3 Times & Still Cannot Get To This Point. I Have No Prior Experience W/ Any Cad Software. I Do Have Some Cnc G-coding Experience.
If Anyone Has Taken These Seminars... Please Advise Of Your Experiences & What Knowledge You Gained From Them.

J-Rad,
Even though our 3-day seminars are really good for teaching you, you may want to have personalized one-on-one training specific to your print/part. We offer our 1-hour training sessions that are done on the internet where you log into our site and we train you using your part or print. The trainer basically works only with you to teach you anything you need to know to become successful. That might be a better way of doing things in your case. Call the main BobCAD-CAM number and ask for the training department. They can steer you in the best direction.
Sincerely,
CNC Dude

price per hour ???

I did take one of those parts to the training seminar and got all my questions answered. Sorin made it look so easy too. However I did wait until the right time. Most of the time near the end of the seminar there will be a little time scheduled for questions.

Bobcad can open many file formats so you most likely can open the file with no problem. You could post a file here as a test or come over to Sorin's web sight and we can test out there. www.cadcamtrainer.com/forums/index.php

Remember that every part is different and most things have more than one way to do them.

I purchased v20 with BobArt ProX and the Nesting package with a 2-seat license for all three programs about a year ago. I have never gotten up and running with it and am considering the 3-day training in my area in March. It looks like I would be wise to include the night sessions along with the rest of the training.

My questions: Since I have little if any CNC experience, will I come away with any knowledge that I can understand and use? Finally....Will I be beaten up over the fact that I have not upgraded to V21? (Your sales staff can be VERY persistent!!)

I have considerable computer knowledge and am VERY mechanically inclined. I have just not done much CNC work. I have 2 CNC routers (one small and one large commercial machine) that I would like to learn to run. I have an AutoCAD professional and a CNC operator on-board, but would like to learn how to generate the code and operate these machines myself.

Thinking Of Taking Part In The Seminar Classes.
My Question Is ... Will I Be Able To Import Customers Prints & Write Complete Programs For The Parts By The End Of The Seminar? I REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH NEED FOR DESIGNING , JUST TAKING EXISTING PRINTS & CREATING TOOLPATH & G-CODES.
I Have Watched To Demos I Got W/ My Bobcad V20 3 Times & Still Cannot Get To This Point. I Have No Prior Experience W/ Any Cad Software. I Do Have Some Cnc G-coding Experience.
If Anyone Has Taken These Seminars... Please Advise Of Your Experiences & What Knowledge You Gained From Them.



Hmmmmm..... Where do you guys live. If your on the East Coast maybe we can figure something out.

Send me a PM if your interested:)

Tx

Unfortunately, Phoenix, AZ.

Tx

Unfortunately, Phoenix, AZ.

Well, that is a bit far for me, LOL, but not MSN or these Forums.


BobCAD/CAM's Official Support Forum Moderated by BCC's Tech Specialists
http://216.117.147.20/bobcadsupport/forums/

Here is a link to the BCC's Schedule for Training (Sorin Nenu's Class)
http://www.bobcad.com/training.html


CAD/CAM Trainer is Sorin Nenu's Forum. He is the Official BobCAD/CAM Trainer. If you register on his site you have access to FREE Video Tutorials. The best part is that he is a REAL MACHINIST and Applies the Software to True Applications.

http://cadcamtrainer.com/forums/search.php?searchid=6261

Cheers Guys, it's Friday :cheers: :)

You Betcha Ya,
Sorin's a top notch guy....and knows his shtick

what do i need to do to get more info on the 1-on-1 training ?

thanks

Thanks tobyaxis for the info. I am going to check out the forums and I guess I'll signup for the sessions coming up in Tucson next month. It sounds like the $1,000 will be worth it.

Yes it will. Do me a favor and tell Sorin Toby says Hi!!!!!!:rainfro:

J-Rad,
One-on-one training is $100 per hour but that's an hour with just you and the trainer along with your part. You really should just call the training coordinator at BobCAD-CAM and talk to him about all of the training options that we have. Maybe a Seminar would be good. Just talk to him. The number is 877-262-2231. That goes for anyone that is serious about getting the right training for what they need.

CNC Dude

I have been trying to sign up for the seminar in Tucson for the last week now. I just got a call today (02/15/2007) and the caller told me that they were, hopefully, going to sign the contract with the hotel tomorrow and he would let me know the details either tomorrow or Monday. That sure seems a little short-sided since the seminar dates are March 7,8,9, 2007. It doesn't give you much time to shop for a hotel room with the Snowbirds in town. I am beginning to wonder about this.

I have been trying to sign up for the seminar in Tucson for the last week now. I just got a call today (02/15/2007) and the caller told me that they were, hopefully, going to sign the contract with the hotel tomorrow and he would let me know the details either tomorrow or Monday. That sure seems a little short-sided since the seminar dates are March 7,8,9, 2007. It doesn't give you much time to shop for a hotel room with the Snowbirds in town. I am beginning to wonder about this.

Register at the Hotel that BCC is contracting, You will get a discount as I was told by a few people. I think it is 5% to 15% off regular prices.

Wish I could go just to meet Sorin, LOL. I could learn new tricks too.:rainfro:

I have been trying to sign up for the seminar in Tucson for the last week now. I just got a call today (02/15/2007) and the caller told me that they were, hopefully, going to sign the contract with the hotel tomorrow and he would let me know the details either tomorrow or Monday. That sure seems a little short-sided since the seminar dates are March 7,8,9, 2007. It doesn't give you much time to shop for a hotel room with the Snowbirds in town. I am beginning to wonder about this.

It may not be short sided but just safe. They need so many people to sign up for the seminar or it would be cost prohibitive to have it. They most likely did not have enough people to sign up until the last minute. I use to do training classes (different company) and it was always a problem with this.