Has anyone used or been around the "new" Haas Horizontal? I am looking at adding one but have been thinking about other makes. Thanks, Gary

don't know any thing about the Haas but we have a new KIWA
on its way going to put it on the floor monday.
The wheels here looked at all the goodies and decided this was the best bang for the buck.

fredj

Fred, I will be intersted to hear what you think of the KIWA. It is one that I have been looking at very seriously. Did they get the 2 or 6 pallet. Thanks Gary

Kool Parts
From the information i have seen its coming with 2 pallets.
The fisrt problem has already come up is the retention studs
that are comeing with the machine will not screw into standard
cat40 tooling the studs threads are metric.

KIWA update here

the story now is it wont be on the floor till wed (they didn't say of what week) LOL
still no word on the retion knobs

the studs threads are metric
You have got to be kidding. I didn't know there was such a thing.:rolleyes: But that isn't really saying much:D Gary

Just another up date as in no update machine was to be here
monday then wed. now they say next wed. I am not sure its off the boat yet. Also still no retion knobs yet.

the lastest news on the KIA it here, got it on the floor and in postion 7 pm today Now the big question is how long will it be till its operational.

Which one are you interested in the EC-300 or the EC-400?

I am work with both of the daily, and know both machines very well.

The EC-400 is far better than the EC-300.

The EC-400 is a solid machine.

Haas_Apps

I was looking at the 400. My salesrep was just here, and sort of busrt my bubble. It only has 20" XYZ. I need a min 23''XY. He did however point me in a new direction that I am intersted in. The VF-4APCQ with super high speed op. What do you think of that config? Gary

The VF-4APCQ may work better for you. I do not know what your application is.
The EC-400 has an advertised work envolope of 20 x 20 x 20, although it is actually a little bigger.

If you need more information on the VF-4APCQ check out the following link:
http://www.haascnc.com/products/default_details.asp?id=315&tstr=VMC

I have the following for sale, if you are interested please contact me:

KIWA KNH-400 (2001 INSTALLATION) HORIZONTAL MACHINING CENTER

LESS THAN 200 HOURS OF CUTTING TIME

FANUC 18 IM CONTROL
TRAVELS- 23.6”X –23.6”Y- 19.6” Z
SPINDLE MOTOR- 20 HP-8,000 RPM
RAPID TRAVERSE RATE- 1968.5 IPM
ATC- 64 TOOLS
COOLANT THROUGH THE SPINDLE
FULL 4TH AXIS
CHIP CONVEYOR

INSTALLED IN 8-2001
PURCHASED FOR $245,000.00

PRICE $169,500.00 NET-( AS IS WHERE IS, NO WARRANTY STATED OR IMPLIED.) POINT OF SHIPMENT

WILL SELL NOW FOR $150,000!!!!!!

THIS MACHINE CAN BE SEEN UNDER POWER AND LOOKS NEW !
Photos attached;

Haas Apps,
Thanks for the info. Hey Fred whats happening with the Kiwa? You guys have had it about a month now, it should be about paid for by now:D
Gary