Well boys I am trying to get into graphics on PC.
So I needed a system that could handle the load I will be putting on it and able to upgrade with out any issues.
Well this is what I have designed.




· Thermaltake W0011+PFC Silent Purepower 480W with Silver
housing - Xaser Edition ATX 2-Fan Power Supply. Designed for AMD K7 and
Intel ATX +12V 1.1 and ATX 2.03 version (Fully Support Pentium 4).

· Thermaltake Xaser III V1000D Chassis, 12-Bay, ( BLUE ), ATX
Super Tower w/ Large Side Window and Locks -Retail
Record & adjust pre-setting Temp. °C / °F display switch. Temp. Alarm
Function. 4 channel adjustable fan speed knob. Thermaltake elegant blue
E-LED light on the front panel.


. Intel Pentium 4 (800 FSB) Motherboard Model D875PBZLK Retail
Specifications:
CPU:Supports Intel Pentium 4 processor with a 533/800MHz
(mPGA478-pin)Supports Hyper-threading
Chipset: Intel 875P
IDE:2x IDE with Ultra DMA 33 and ATA-66/100 support
RAM:4x 184-pin DIMM connect, Double Data Rate DDR266/DDR333/DDR400 support
Slots:1 x AGP 8X, and 5 x PCI
Ports:2xPS2, 4x USB, (see pics)
Onboard SATA:2
Onboard LAN: Gigabit 10/100/1000 Intregrated

· Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PCI Internal Sound
Card - Retail
Features:
Superior Fidelity 24-bit ADVANCED HD™ THX® Certified Sound Card
Advanced Resolution™ 24-bit DVD-Audio Playback
Ultra-realistic EAX® 4.0 ADVANCED HD™ Effects and Acoustic Enhancements
Patented Creative CMSS® 3D Audio Technology
Integrated High Speed 1394 FireWire® Port
2 Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive

· Intel Pentium 4 / 2.8CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading
Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 2.8GHz
Type: Pentium 4 Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 800 Mhz
Socket: 478
Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
UNINCOM ROUND, 10-Inch, UV Clear Tube/Silver-Blue Floppy drive cable.
Booted, 2-Connector. ( SILVER/BLUE ). Single-device. Retail

· UNINCOM ROUND, 18-Inch, True ATA133/100/66/33, ( UV
SILVER/BLUE ) IDE Cable. 3-Head. 18 Inches. For IDE Hard Drives, CD ROM, DVD
ROM or CDRW.
CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency (Twin Pack)
1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200LLPT With Platinum - Silver Heat
Spreaders.Retail
Specifications:
Speed 400 MHz
Organization 2 x 64M x 64
Memory type DDR
Part number: TWINX1024-3200LLPT

· ATI RADEON 9800XT 256MB DVI/TV 8X AGP
Specifications:
Chipset:Radeon 9800XT
Memory: 256MB DDR
Bus: AGP 8X
256-bit DDR memory interface
Eight parallel rendering pipelines
Four parallel geometry engines
2x/4x/6x full scene anti-aliasing modes
Ports:VGA + DVI + Svideo Out

· VeloCD 52x24x48x Internal ATAP/E-IDE CDRW Drive
TDK Internal Burners Add High-Performace CD Recording To Your Computer

· DVD cdrom.

· Windows PRO XP.

When you say "graphics" what exactly do you mean? Animated gifs? Video editing/compression from digital camcorder? Photoshop work on images? Or are you going serious, like Maya?

how many computers have you built? Have you ever overclocked a computer? If not, you'll be happy to know that the system you're putting together will likely run at 3.0 GHz without a problem, maybe 3.2 GHz if you're lucky with stock cooling, and likely 3.5 GHz or faster with a good cooling solution (like the watercooler in my avatar :))

My other comments: You may be better off to build a dual processor machine, especially if your 'graphics' program(s) can take advantage of it. You won't find a smoother running machine than a dually. Take a look at the MSI K7D Master-L with a couple of low-speed TBred B processors (like the 1700+) If your program is SMP capable, that system will be cheaper than the P4 system and have tons more processing power.

Also, I would always recommend buying quality, name-brand motherboards. My favorite brands are Abit and Asus, although there are plenty of other good brands.

finally, there's 2 websites I'd like to recommend.
1. www.newegg.com - hands down the best place to buy parts.
2. www.overclockers.com - be sure to check out their forums at forum.oc-forums.com . there's TONS of info there.

Hope it helps!

Originally posted by NeoMoses
When you say "graphics" what exactly do you mean? Animated gifs? Video editing/compression from digital camcorder? Photoshop work on images? Or are you going serious, like Maya?
"I would like to get to that level.
Yes Flash Macro so on"

how many computers have you built? "50 PC and Servers "
Have you ever overclocked a computer? "YES"
If not, you'll be happy to know that the system you're putting together will likely run at 3.0 GHz without a problem, maybe 3.2 GHz if you're lucky with stock cooling, and likely 3.5 GHz or faster with a good cooling solution (like the watercooler in my avatar :))

My other comments: You may be better off to build a dual processor machine, especially if your 'graphics' program(s) can take advantage of it. You won't find a smoother running machine than a dually. Take a look at the MSI K7D Master-L with a couple of low-speed TBred B processors (like the 1700+) If your program is SMP capable, that system will be cheaper than the P4 system and have tons more processing power.

Also, I would always recommend buying quality, name-brand motherboards. My favorite brands are Abit and Asus, although there are plenty of other good brands.

finally, there's 2 websites I'd like to recommend.
1. www.newegg.com - hands down the best place to buy parts.
2. www.overclockers.com - be sure to check out their forums at forum.oc-forums.com . there's TONS of info there.

Hope it helps!

I got most everything at New Egg and some at compusa.

well, it looks like you're all set, wallcrawler. That ought to be a good, solid system for you. :)

I'm kinda getting tired of my old Athlon 1600+ running at 2.0 GHz, so I'm seriously thinking about upgrading to a nice dually with TBred Bs clocked to about 2.3 GHz each. (Watercooled, of course :D) That ought to last me another year or so, at least until there's some good software written for 64 bit processors.

If you do overclock that 2.8C, let me know how it does. I've heard they're screamers.

looks nice.

the only thing i'd add is that the thermaltake case can be hard to install stuff in. so unless you like the look i would probably suggest a antec case, they are really nice as far as installing harddrives, etc.

edit: didnt realize you had already bought it. let me know what you think about the case

This is what’s installed so far the OS XP PRO and all updates plus drivers plus antivirus.

Now I have to load Office 2003 PRO.
All files I backed up.
Tweak.
Install my graphics programs update all that, games install restore all back ups and updates.
I say about another 8 hrs of loading stuff.

Then test test test.

What "graphics programs" are you using?

Flash MX
MX studio
The one you gave me.
new phote shop

Well she is up and running. Finel List.

· Thermaltake W0011+PFC Silent Purepower 480W with Silver
housing - Xaser Edition ATX 2-Fan Power Supply. Designed for AMD K7 and
Intel ATX +12V 1.1 and ATX 2.03 version (Fully Support Pentium 4).

· Thermaltake Xaser III V1000D Chassis, 12-Bay, ( BLUE ), ATX
Super Tower w/ Large Side Window and Locks -Retail
Record & adjust pre-setting Temp. °C / °F display switch. Temp. Alarm
Function. 4 channel adjustable fan speed knob. Thermaltake elegant blue
E-LED light on the front panel.


. Intel Pentium 4 (800 FSB) Motherboard Model D875PBZLK Retail
Specifications:
CPU:Supports Intel Pentium 4 processor with a 533/800MHz
(mPGA478-pin)Supports Hyper-threading
Chipset: Intel 875P
IDE:2x IDE with Ultra DMA 33 and ATA-66/100 support
RAM:4x 184-pin DIMM connect, Double Data Rate DDR266/DDR333/DDR400 support
Slots:1 x AGP 8X, and 5 x PCI
Ports:2xPS2, 4x USB, (see pics)
Onboard SATA:2
Onboard LAN: Gigabit 10/100/1000 Intregrated

· Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PCI Internal Sound
Card - Retail
Features:
Superior Fidelity 24-bit ADVANCED HD™ THX® Certified Sound Card
Advanced Resolution™ 24-bit DVD-Audio Playback
Ultra-realistic EAX® 4.0 ADVANCED HD™ Effects and Acoustic Enhancements
Patented Creative CMSS® 3D Audio Technology
Integrated High Speed 1394 FireWire® Port

.2 Western Digital Raptor 36GB SATA WD360GD 10,000 RPM 8MB Hard Drive

· Intel Pentium 4 / 2.8CGHz 512k socket 478 Hyper Threading
Technology 800 MHz FSB - RETAIL
Specifications:
CPU: 2.8GHz
Type: Pentium 4 Northwood
Cache: 512K
BUS: 800 Mhz
Socket: 478
Retail box (with Heatsink and Fan)
UNINCOM ROUND, 10-Inch, UV Clear Tube/Silver-Blue Floppy drive cable.
Booted, 2-Connector. ( SILVER/BLUE ). Single-device. Retail

UNINCOM ROUND, 18-Inch, True ATA133/100/66/33, ( UV
SILVER/BLUE ) IDE Cable. 3-Head. 18 Inches. For IDE Hard Drives, CD ROM, DVD
ROM or CDRW.
CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency (Twin Pack)
1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200LLPT With Platinum - Silver Heat
Spreaders.Retail
Specifications:
Speed 400 MHz
Organization 2 x 64M x 64
Memory type DDR
Part number: TWINX1024-3200LLPT

· ATI RADEON 9800XT 256MB DVI/TV 8X AGP
Specifications:
Chipset:Radeon 9800XT
Memory: 256MB DDR
Bus: AGP 8X
256-bit DDR memory interface
Eight parallel rendering pipelines
Four parallel geometry engines
2x/4x/6x full scene anti-aliasing modes
Ports:VGA + DVI + Svideo Out

· VeloCD 52x24x48x Internal ATAP/E-IDE CDRW Drive
TDK Internal Burners Add High-Performace CD Recording To Your Computer

· DVD cdrom.

· Windows PRO XP.
Windows 2003 Office Pro

thats a nice system.

i've got the SATA 10k drives as well, pretty schweet drives.

so, how was the case? i have heard they can be a pain to install stuff in. but they look really cool.

Here are some pic's

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:D

:D

Vantec"Tornado"Double Ball Bearing Cooling Fan

:D

:p

thats a wild looking thing :)

well this is my favorite computer now... it is not all that great, but I did the case modification and haven't finished. Moved the drive bays to eject out the front so I don't have to reach around it at the desk.

The fan is a zalman. I had a lot of trouble keeping this processor cool for some reason.

Ernie

here is a blurry close up of the fan

:D

Originally posted by WallCrawler
:p http://www.cnczone.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=16984

Well temps are in. Idle temps 30-32c
Full on temps 40c

There is a 10c drop from stock HS.
Were full on was at 55c before. This is a big improvement.
:p

I added 3 fanes 2 on top one on the bottom of case.
I will be cleaning up wires soon.

:D

Hyper Threading Technology
I must say this has been a great feature for my system.
Gaming, HTML and graphics have been so much faster and makes it so much easier to do, Because of the HT.
It is a must if you are going to build you own system.

Awsome machine! It might even be faster than my 90 mhz! Ha Ha!

Nice machine have you set up Wallcrawler.
Its just that it looks a lot more like a lan party rig instead of a graphics/CAD workstation.

Why did you went with ATI intstead of nVidia? ATI right now does better on DirectX but nVidia wins on OpenGL and profecional graphic cards and drivers. You dont have to buy super expensive profeccional card, there is this dude nick "Uniwinder" who programmed this utility to softmod a GeForce into a Quadro class card, but I guess you know this already, so why ATI then ?

Do you oc dthe P4 ?
Hyper threading is great, I think about switching to a P4 2.8 myself for my next upgrade, though the HT does not work flawlessly with everything and I have read many posts about turning HT off.

Originally posted by Gunner
Awsome machine! It might even be faster than my 90 mhz! Ha Ha! :devious: (nuts) :banana:

Here is what I make for fun with an 866-P3 with Micrografx Photo publisher 4
The story is the last 2 days of the biggest Battleship ever built


http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/April6th.jpg
The Yamato and Yahagi are steaming for Okinawa; the time is 1610hrs; just over 1 hour has passed since she left her base in Tokuyama Bay; fully armed and with her fuel tanks filled to 90%; the aircraft handling crews are busy preparing her aircraft to leave the ship before night falls; as the rest of the crew is anticipating the coming Battle

http://www.specwarnet.net/shipworks/Yamato%20sinking%2014-15.jpg


It is April 7th, 1945 at approx. 2:15 PM. It is a cloudy and drizzly day on the Pacific Ocean. After almost 3 hours of relentless attacks by US Navy Aircraft the giant Battleship; Yamato, lists 90 degrees to port; The order to abandon ship has been given; Fires rage; now out of control and gaining in intensity as they are fueled by the powder charges falling out of their racks into the fire as the behemoth lists ever further

All efforts at counter-flooding have failed; suddenly a few stragglers from the 3rd attacking group appear out of the clouds

They are low on fuel and ammo but cannot resist making a final pass over the doomed Battleship; they commence their final attack run; the aircrews do not realize that their fate has been sealed; in five seconds; they will enter Dante's Inferno.

http://www.specwarnet.net/shipworks/Yamato%20sinking%2014-15-05.jpg



April 7th, 1945,. 2:15.05 PM. Yamato now lists over 90 degrees. The rampage of fires burning around the 6” turret housing have ignited all the charges in the B turret magazine and the ship begins to explode

The resulting cloud from the blast rises 3000 feet in the air and can be seen at a distance of 100 miles; everything within 1/8 of a mile is destroyed

The aircraft that decided to make a final run will be destroyed by the blast, along with their crews, by flying debris from the explosion. At 2:23 pm, the Mighty Battleship slips under the waves, taking with her almost 3000 men. A sad end to a great ship

This was the end of the Imperial Japanese Navy.

Wow nice job . How long have you been doing this?

Originally posted by Konstantin
Nice machine have you set up Wallcrawler.
Its just that it looks a lot more like a lan party rig instead of a graphics/CAD workstation.

Why did you went with ATI intstead of nVidia? ATI right now does better on DirectX but nVidia wins on OpenGL and profecional graphic cards and drivers. You dont have to buy super expensive profeccional card, there is this dude nick "Uniwinder" who programmed this utility to softmod a GeForce into a Quadro class card, but I guess you know this already, so why ATI then ?

Do you oc dthe P4 ?
Hyper threading is great, I think about switching to a P4 2.8 myself for my next upgrade, though the HT does not work flawlessly with everything and I have read many posts about turning HT off.

ATI I have used of late, I was a Geforce Ninvida person for a longtime but got burnt from their service.
I do play some real instance Sims games and the ATI has proved to be the best bang for the buck.

Graphics with this card is Sharpe and clear.

Plus I got the card for cost and could not pass it up.
The system is been very reliable and fast.
I have seen system with most of the parts I usd that has not been as fast and reliable. HTT is ansome and has made my life allot easier with the rendering of graphics.

I've been playing with photo editing for about 3 years; but i just got into ships about 1 year ago

I think this one is my best
http://www.warshipmodels.com/~SteveNuttall/Littorio%20sunset%20small.jpg

Nice

:o

:D

http://www.cnczone.com/gallery/uploads/2/DCP_0750.jpg

You do indeed have a nice box I will say.

In your orig. post you mentioned graphics. I do not know much about Pavre or 3-D Studio Max but I can comment on using Photoshop with your box. I started out doing alot of photoshop work on my machine, also having a ATI vid card. I soon found that when making multiple layer images in photoshop, I began to hate the fact that I had all these miminized layers all over my screen that I was working with. To get rid of this peve of mine, I opted to change out my card and go with a Oxygen card that supports dual monitors. This way I could drag layers I needed but not currently editing over to the second monitor to get them out of the way until I needed them and I would drag them back.

Just a thought.

You do indeed have a nice box I will say.

In your orig. post you mentioned graphics. I do not know much about Pavre or 3-D Studio Max but I can comment on using Photoshop with your box. I started out doing alot of photoshop work on my machine, also having a ATI vid card. I soon found that when making multiple layer images in photoshop, I began to hate the fact that I had all these miminized layers all over my screen that I was working with. To get rid of this peve of mine, I opted to change out my card and go with a Oxygen card that supports dual monitors. This way I could drag layers I needed but not currently editing over to the second monitor to get them out of the way until I needed them and I would drag them back.

Just a thought.
I have a duel out put card .
I will be upgrading to 19 inch Samsung DVI LCD.