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Machine1
10-07-2003, 10:38 AM
Can anyone shed some light on this style of drill "parabolic". Is it a good drill to use in Aluminum? If can you recommend any that would be good It would be much appreciated.

wms
10-07-2003, 11:17 AM
Machine1,

Yes Parabolic drills are excellent for aluminum or any soft and gummy material.

I use Guring brand and would highly recommend them.

Rekd
10-07-2003, 11:42 AM
+1 WMS.

Para's are da kind! Great chip evac and relief.

'Rekd

Machine1
10-07-2003, 01:41 PM
Thank you!

Machine1
10-07-2003, 02:04 PM
Are you able to get some high feed rates out of these drills when using them on aluminum?

wms
10-07-2003, 02:17 PM
Yes, you can get high feeds. Defiantly higher than standard drill designs.

CDignition
10-08-2003, 09:24 AM
Guhring is the best bar none...they are not cheap, but the best on the planet..;)

Rekd
10-08-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by CDignition
Guhring is the best bar none...they are not cheap, but the best on the planet..;)

Heh, that's a pretty bold statement. Have you tried ALL other brands?? :rolleyes:

'Rekd

Machine1
10-08-2003, 10:54 AM
Do you have any suggestions? I am drilling 3/8 thk 6061-t6 plate. Multiple holes and dia.

HuFlungDung
10-08-2003, 11:49 AM
For that thickness, I don't know if you would see an incredible difference. You're still going to want to peck anyway, to chip break. A short carbide drill might do a better job, because it is stiffer. Parabolic flutes stand out for deeper holes, IMO.

Machine1
10-08-2003, 12:03 PM
Well I am looking at the parabolic with the stubby FL. Do you think that will make a difference? I sure hope so because I think that they already ordered them. Oh well....let me know.

E-Stop
10-08-2003, 01:04 PM
Parabolic drills have a wider web to allow better chip evacuation and coolant flow. They work great on aluminum but if you are only drilling 3/8 thick 6061 plate, I doubt that you will notice any significant difference.

Another option is the solid carbide 3-flute drills (I like SGS brand). You can really plow through aluminum with these drills when drill 2XD or less.

HuFlung -- you say that he is going to need to peck anyway to chip break. Do you really think that is necessary on 3/8 thick material? I wouldn't unless the hole size is less than, say, 3/32 or so.

Rekd
10-08-2003, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by E-Stop
Parabolic drills have a wider web to allow better chip evacuation and coolant flow. They work great on aluminum but if you are only drilling 3/8 thick 6061 plate, I doubt that you will notice any significant difference.

Another option is the solid carbide 3-flute drills (I like SGS brand). You can really plow through aluminum with these drills when drill 2XD or less.

HuFlung -- you say that he is going to need to peck anyway to chip break. Do you really think that is necessary on 3/8 thick material? I wouldn't unless the hole size is less than, say, 3/32 or so.

+1 on the 3 fluters. You can almost RAPID thru the part with those sucka's

Also, Agreed on the pecking in 3/8 with anything less than .100 or so.

'Rekd

Machine1
10-09-2003, 11:29 AM
So what kind of C-SP should I start out with using the parabolic drill. I am using .1285 - .438. Any suggestions would help

Rekd
10-09-2003, 12:05 PM
I would start around 600-800 and work your way up. The bigger the tool, the heavier the chip load. I've run para's in alum at over 1400 SFPM with good results.

'Rekd

Machine1
10-09-2003, 12:10 PM
You must of had some incredibly high spindle speeds?

Rekd
10-09-2003, 12:32 PM
I believe I was running a drill just over .500 dia, at around 9,500 or 10,000 rpm. I was going like .750 deep, no pecking, feeding at like 125 ipm.

You could barely see from the steam. The drill looked like it was rapiding into the hole. The chips were around .015 thick. It was beautiful.. :rainfro:

'Rekd

Machine1
10-09-2003, 12:57 PM
Thats awesome! :D

Partier SP
06-11-2008, 10:22 PM
I was Googling around and came across this thread.

I'm looking at running some small parabolic drills into some 316 Stainless. Any idea on how affective this would be? The size I'd be using would be a #32 drill (0.116"), drilling to a depth of 1.300".

Everywhere I look I hear these are great for aluminum, but I was hoping that the parabolic design would help with chip extraction due to the depth of the hole.