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tjones 01-22-2006, 01:48 PM Guess I had to start a new thread now. Would still like to see any Bobcad examples.
Sorry Jon. Just asking if you have anything you can post. Not that everything done can be. As I stated in the other thread I have to get permission to post things on our sight. Same situation and many of our companies have non-disclosure agreements too. However I would still like to see anything being done with Bobcad even if it is simple or just a test for functon.
Thanks to Ken for many of his posts. I like those type of jobs. I know companies that do things like mylar engraving and pool stick enlays. Gun stocks, pistol grips, sheet layouts for laser and water jets, molds, dies, fixtures, machine componites, and more. I have even done work off the company clock for these people by making the gcode for them and they pay me using paypal. (these are things I can not post either :frown: )
When I see parts like these I get ideals on how to do jobs I work on. Most things I do are solids and they are job related. However my son is designing a mace (weapon) for his collection. He just wants a cool design of his own. I have permission to make the part as long as I pay for any material and tooling when he gets the design I will post it.
kenlambert 01-22-2006, 02:32 PM all the parts I make are basicaly for me , this is just a hobby so I have no problem posting them. These are carb adapters for a Mac conversion gas engine everything is simple parts so far but it did take some time to learn sense I had never seen a cad program before I got v 19.
jonbanquer 01-22-2006, 02:59 PM Guess I had to start a new thread now. Would still like to see any Bobcad examples.
Sorry Jon. Just asking if you have anything you can post. Not that everything done can be. As I stated in the other thread I have to get permission to post things on our sight. Same situation and many of our companies have non-disclosure agreements too. However I would still like to see anything being done with Bobcad even if it is simple or just a test for functon.
Thanks to Ken for many of his posts. I like those type of jobs. I know companies that do things like mylar engraving and pool stick enlays. Gun stocks, pistol grips, sheet layouts for laser and water jets, molds, dies, fixtures, machine componites, and more. I have even done work off the company clock for these people by making the gcode for them and they pay me using paypal. (these are things I can not post either :frown: )
When I see parts like these I get ideals on how to do jobs I work on. Most things I do are solids and they are job related. However my son is designing a mace (weapon) for his collection. He just wants a cool design of his own. I have permission to make the part as long as I pay for any material and tooling when he gets the design I will post it.
"Sorry Jon. Just asking if you have anything you can post."
No reason to be sorry.
Given a better environment and more BobCADCAM users actually helping other users with best practice modeling and machining, like is being done by you and I on the official BobCADCAM Technical Forum with one poster, then I will indeed post some parts and designs that I have done. Not until then. There is a lot of work to do to change the way BobCADCAM is often perceived and how it is documented. A good start is what is happening on the official BobCADCAM Technical Support Forum now. Lets hope it is allowed to continue. I have my doubts. Despite this I know it's the right thing to do.
In my opinion a big change in mindset at BobCADCAM corporate needs to take place. I'm waiting to see if this happens.
I think your a big part of trying to make positive change happen. I think others could be as well. Nothing will happen if users don't work together for these badly needed changes. I believe we need to find more BobCADCAM users who truly understand what needs to occur and who really want it to occur.
jon
"I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." ... Jimmy Hoffa
tjones 01-22-2006, 09:40 PM Most users will never agree on everything but when most users agree on one thing it really hits big to a company. Many people will not understand the practical cost of changing years of work though. Advances cost when the company has to do it in one large leap. Also when they have to use third parties they must pay for the services or permission on every program sold to include the third party application.
Not too many companies will do things for free. Bobcad is using older code in the user interface that has not been changed to new designs for a long time. This is a major reason they have been able to keep cost low. Now they have new employees that have new ideals and are implementing new code. We saw a large part of this in version 20. This much change in one leap caused many problems and most of them have been adressed. Bobcad may not have everything yet that would make it compete with some other big companies but we still pay a 5th or less of the cost of some of the big companies.
However for some of the lower end companies that have started up in more recent years they have newer code that makes thing a lttle nicer but with a little more cost. For Bobcad to match them they most likely will have to increase the cost (it would shock me if they do not). Most users though can get Bobcad to do great things as it is now. It still suprises me to see the things being done. I like trying to find new ways to do things and Bobcad lets me do that. These are the reasons I thought most people would wish to keep it the way it is. But they are proving me wrong and Bobcad has been paying attention.
BTW....I would guess a 2 year span to change graphics and maybe more to change to lists. If they have aleady been working on some of these it would be less. If they use third parties then they could do it in a year easy. How many $300 sales does it take to pay for 6 people full time? That is how many people I have talked with myself. I don't know how many employees work for Bobcad. From several sources I have heard there are major changes already underway. I keep trying to trick a tech into slipping but its not been easy.
jonbanquer 01-22-2006, 10:45 PM "Bobcad is using older code in the user interface that has not been changed to new designs for a long time."
MasterCAM did the same thing... held on to their DOS user interface for too long and it has cost them dearly. A lot of people are unhappy with MasterCAM X but what choice did CNC Software really have other then to continue to slip back. If BobCADCAM doesn't move quickly to increase the speed at which programs can be cranked out by a machining job shop they will be in danger of becoming a hobby only CADCAM system.
There is some good progress in BobCADCAM. How Profile is done with it's all in one place Dialog Box is a big step in the right direction. Needs to happen with Pocketing and Drilling as well.
BobCADCAM has saved a lot of money over the years by holding back on development but the market has evolved with other low price solutions that have a far better UI's.
The solid component of BobCADCAM is really a third part kernel developed by Gary Crocker and his partner.
I see no way around the Open GL issue. You can't get a third party to develop this. BobCAD will have to do it themselves. If the API was opened up in BobCADCAM then I have no doubt that third parties could develop solutions. As an example Gibbs uses a ton of third party add-ins that greatly increase it's functionality and are included with Gibbs. Without this third party help, Gibbs would have a lot of issues that it doesn't have right now.
There really is no choice at this point other than to spend the money. If BobCAD doesn't you will see companies like OneCNC (who has no problem spending money and redoing their product on a frequent basis) go after more of the BobCADCAM user base.
HuFlungDung, WMS.... both were power BobCADCAM users who moved on... because they had no choice.
A lot of the stuff I'm suggesting would not require a major overhaul. The Layers pop up Dialog box, the status bar, Toby's idea for a CAM status bar.... all very do able. So is redoing the Pocketing UI.
BobCADCAM has never really gotten Windows right. I don't know if you ever used BobCAD DOS but it had an awesome UI. It was so good I didn't use the mouse most of the time. It's time for BobCADCAM to produce a much better Windows UI. I can live with it being done incrementally.
What BobCAD has always been good at is marketing... high pressure marketing. This only goes so far in a CADCAM market that is no longer expanding but rather shrinking. In a shrinking market you have to have very good value for the money and you have to be able to make your customers happy and keep them happy. As you saw in the Practical Machinist CNC forum lots of former BobCADCAM users are not happy. What they are is mad as hell. They have every right to be mad as hell.
Some how / some way it's time to make a change and start building a loyal user base who will not be satisfied with empty marketing promises. They will want proof. What better way to show proof then in small incremental steps with some of the stuff I'm suggesting ?
V20's Profile function shows me that someone is trying to get it right. With more of the same delivered incrementally a lot of users will be made happy. I'm one of them.
jon
"I may have many faults, but being wrong ain't one of them." ... Jimmy Hoffa
mrwhittle 01-23-2006, 09:15 PM <I almost always Blank out objects by Layer. When I hit the Blank out icon I would like to be able to skip the dialog box that asks whether you want to Blank out by Single, Chain, Region, Color, All. One way to facilitate this would be to create an Environmental Default setting that sets Blank by Layer to the default choice for Blanking objects.>
<The Layers pop up Dialog box>
Jon,
I don't understand what you're talking about on the layer situation. If I'm working on a layer called "base1", and I select that geometry and click on the "blank" icon, it is immediately blanked, no dialog box. When I click on the "unblank" icon, it gives me a choice of layers or colors to unblank.
As far as that other forum, don't worry about them. I read a post on there that V20 lathe doesn't offset the tool correctly, and that tells me either they have a different V20 than mine, or they have no idea what they're talking about. As far as I can tell from that bunch, every $1000.00 you spend for CADCAM software over the cost of BC raises your testosterone level by 10%-hehehe
Martin
jonbanquer 01-23-2006, 09:37 PM Martin,
If the geometry is *not selected* you get a dialog box where you have to choose between Single, Chain, Region, Layer, Color, All. I would like to avoid telling BobCADCAM that Layer is my choice everytime.
"As far as I can tell from that bunch, every $1000.00 you spend for CADCAM software over the cost of BC raises your testosterone level by 10%-hehehe"
All CADCAM systems have problems but the one I like most is very methodical and predictable in how it is developed. In addition I agree with this companies philosophy in regards to how a CADCAM product should work. What I don't agree with they are reworking as they know it's needs rework.
I support multiple CADCAM systems so I'm not loyal to any particular one but I do have features that I really like in many of them.
jon
sorincnc 01-25-2006, 07:40 AM Regarding blanking function...If the geometry is highlighted when you hit the blank icon, it blanks everything at once. If the geometry is NOT selected, then bobcad needs to know how you want to select that geometry. Unfortunately, Bobcad can't read your mind and decide for you how and what to blank out (thank God for that). Once again, just complains and no show.. Nice parts posted by Ken, Tim and many others. Still waiting from some pics from JB. I guess when I get home this weekend I will have to take some pics of some of my work and post it here. That might give him a incentive to do the same. I don't buy the argument that he isn't going to post anything until Bobcad changes it's manuals or the software all together...
TR MFG 01-25-2006, 08:19 AM OK, I'll share. Best if I don't say what they are for as the product is still in the prototype stage.
mrwhittle 01-25-2006, 10:46 AM sorincnc
I'm a newbie to this forum, but not to BCC. Still have a lot to learn though!! I would like you to know that I very much appreciate your informative posts and the videos, as I'm sure everyone does.
I've not had the problems with BCC that some others say they have. I use it regularly and it does a good job for me.
On the very few occasions that I've needed to contact BCC support, I've treated them with courtesy and respect, and they have treated me the same way! I suspect that some people call in with a bad attitude and get treated accordingly.
Keep up the good work, we look forward to your posts!!!
Thank you guys for posting the great pics.
Regards,
Martin
miljnor 01-25-2006, 11:48 AM I have never used bobcad or even sean it for that matter, but I read most post on this sight.
I have exception to part of this comment:
On the very few occasions that I've needed to contact BCC support, I've treated them with courtesy and respect, and they have treated me the same way! I suspect that some people call in with a bad attitude and get treated accordingly.
I might have taken the "treated accordingly" statement wrong, if so disregard my rant.
I run a successfull company. and if a customer calls up with attitude my sales staff Doesn't get paid to reflect the customers attitude. They get paid to answer tech and sales questions to the best of their ability and if they are doing differnent they will be let go. Any company that lets their sales/tech staff retaliate bad behavior isn't doing theirselves any favors. Every customer contact must be treated as a potential sale (even if they already own a seat of software! Because you don't know who they will talk to or recomend your product to.)
Enough said!
ps: Now if they chose to cuss the customer out after the phone is hung up, well lets just say, a little venting never hurt anyone! :D
tjones 01-25-2006, 12:50 PM Jon,
Bobcad may not have what you asked for but with scripts we can make it have it. Create a new script and insert this.
unselectall
Attributes Output, Layer = currentLayer
CADLayer
XSelect Layers = currentlayer
Attributes Layer = currentLayer, Blank=TRUE
Now before running the script simply select the layer you want to blank from the drop down menu of the 'extra tools' menu bar. When you run this script (you can set this to a shortcut or blank shortcut if you like) then it will blank the selected layer.
tjones 01-25-2006, 01:09 PM Sorry to hear about someone having trouble with Bobcad support but I have heard of this happening at other companies. After a while even the most level headed person would give up and not take the calls anymore.
Customer relations calls this a waste of money(their way of getting away from the problem). Somewhere even the best draws a line. I had to give up doing work for certain companies (back when I owned my own) that you could never make happy even if you had everything in specs.
Bobcad has a product that they sell. If you don't want the product don't buy it. If you have bought it make sure it does what the advertisement says it will do. If it does what was expected before it was purchased but you want more then ask in a nice way. If they say no then next time buy another software. If you are not satisfied with any software then hire someone to make your own. If you can't then don't make life unbearable for the poor guy who can't do anything about it either. Just respect for those who are in the same boat as the rest of us.
I did support and training for a servicing and sales company and they had one customer they gave up on. That is hard to do for a 250k machine but they took the machine back. The guy and used it like crazy but found a few tools he couldn't do and was never told he could with the standard software. He would not stop costing the company money and constantly inflamed other companies with the bad mouthing and downright rude remarks. They took the machine back after he refused to make payments and they now have a lawsuit against him.
kenlambert 01-25-2006, 03:21 PM what is the testing about?
tjones 01-25-2006, 04:26 PM Ken,
Due to some flaming on the sight the forum was blocked from posts until the owner decided to allow them back.
kenlambert 01-25-2006, 11:15 PM Tjones if you give me your address I have a gift for you to look at and compaire.
sorincnc 01-27-2006, 12:00 AM Regarding "Blank" function, why not just go to "selection " tool bar and click on "Select by layer" icon. Now click on th layer(or multitude of layers while holding down "ctrl"key) and then click OK.Layers are now selected and you then can blank the out. By the way Tim, nice script....More for the guys if it is OK for you.
tjones 01-27-2006, 03:40 PM Any script I post is OK to give to anyone. The blank layer script just shows how versitile Bobcad can be. It really surprised me noone did it already. Of course there are many great scripts out there allowing the customizing and automating of Bobcad.
I think the blank layer script would be a great script to use in a video to show how to add a menu and then add a shortcut key to the menu.
This way you can show a really functional use for something like that. I am using it because I typically type a new layer name in the drop box (this creates a new layer) and then post a tool path (it will be on the new layer just typed). After posting to the NC I blank the path and then do the next. I do this when I am creating multiple paths just to keep them off the screen.
Just a quicker way to do a simple task.
sorincnc 01-27-2006, 10:20 PM Tim,
That is the way I do things also (remember I also suggested that in the class). It is by far the best and safest way to get your code. You can only cut what is on the screen so you can't cut the wrong path with the wrong tool. Take care my friend.
tjones 01-28-2006, 09:28 AM I do Sorin. What I ment (but didn't explain properly) was I combine these usually in one large program for running overnight with roughing, sime-finishing, and finishing all together.
If I remember Sorin likes to have a sepperate program for each. Better organizing that way. I blank each pass so I can keep adding more to the main. I would do sepperate passes if I did these during day runs though.
I was just suggesting the video for the script editing and menu adding with keyboard shortcut, not really for the other things you already do. Sorry for the missunderstanding Sorin.
AMCjeepCJ 01-31-2006, 12:10 AM Bobcad baby!!
tjones 01-31-2006, 08:14 AM Now that is cool! :cool:
lakeside 03-12-2006, 09:47 AM I've been running BC. for about 1 year know. I contacted BC. support in the past and they have been most helpfull. They were able to remotely update a post for a Prototak MX3 at my work station using there support tool the process was complete in less than 5 minutes from the start of phone call at $95./hour shop rate my downtime was nothing. This week I neede a post for a Yasnac I-80 for a Matsuura MC-510-VF I filled out the request form at 10:30 am and stated that I would be in the shop untill 4:00pm and to call then at 4:10 the phone rings and it was BC. Support I gave the the header command line talked about a tool change option and adding a G52 at end of program at the end of phone call Supoort said that the post will be on there site this week that not bad support?
tjones 03-12-2006, 11:30 PM Now that is why we use Bobcad :cheers: .
tsutt 03-13-2006, 05:55 AM Amc, How long did that wheel take to draw>program? Todd
lakeside 03-17-2006, 10:29 AM I've been running BC. for about 1 year know. I contacted BC. support in the past and they have been most helpfull. They were able to remotely update a post for a Prototak MX3 at my work station using there support tool the process was complete in less than 5 minutes from the start of phone call at $95./hour shop rate my downtime was nothing. This week I neede a post for a Yasnac I-80 for a Matsuura MC-510-VF I filled out the request form at 10:30 am and stated that I would be in the shop untill 4:00pm and to call then at 4:10 the phone rings and it was BC. Support I gave the the header command line talked about a tool change option and adding a G52 at end of program at the end of phone call Supoort said that the post will be on there site this week that not bad support?
Just an update Bobcad support did a great job and received custom post that meets all my expectation
AMCjeepCJ 03-17-2006, 04:16 PM I can do em' in under 3 hours now, including much of the code...
It's like Huflungdung says:
"First you get good, then you get fast"
AMCjeepCJ 03-17-2006, 04:27 PM I forgot to mention, every surface has 3 degrees draft blended out in the center AND radii on most of the corners. There are no 90 degree angles anywhere except the bolt holes.
I just got back from Bike Week in Daytona Beach so start watching "Hot Bike" for an article on the new version of this wheel later in the year. It now has 24 spikes and is seriously crazy looking. They're doing two articles, one of the wheel and one on the bike it's for... I'll post a pic if I ever get a digital camera~
:cheers:
If you like this one, the new one has tribal patterns and is super fluid looking...
tsutt 03-17-2006, 05:34 PM Looks like your movin up? 24 spokes! i bet that will be neet lookin. As far as BC goes, I don't know if i have the paitience to learn it. We just got One cnc at work and a RH20 milltronics, they wouldn't spend the bucks for a vmc. Todd
lakeside 03-25-2006, 12:28 PM bobart (for when the boss is not looking)
mike hide 05-06-2006, 12:21 AM OK, I'll share. Best if I don't say what they are for as the product is still in the prototype stage.
whatever it is ,it sure is inspirational....do any stuff for strombergs or SUs :]
sorincnc 08-17-2006, 10:44 PM Hi guys,
For all of you that have posted this wonderful examples of your work: Congratulations!
It proves what one can achieve if he\she tries hard enough or wants to just "Get er done"
have fun and enjoy you wondeful work,
Sorin
PS I will try to spend more time here if possible
tobyaxis 08-18-2006, 12:53 AM Hi guys,
For all of you that have posted this wonderful examples of your work: Congratulations!
It proves what one can achieve if he\she tries hard enough or wants to just "Get er done"
have fun and enjoy you wondeful work,
Sorin
PS I will try to spend more time here if possible
How wonderful to see you here again. Have you seen the post in the BCC forum for a request for your video Tutorials?
:)
These are just screen shots because there were no real pictures taken.
sorincnc 08-18-2006, 08:39 AM Toby and all,
I haven't seen the post on BCC because I didn't have too much time to go there lately (training every week). I have some new videos and have been trying to get them to work easyier for you guy(I am including the plug in for them now) I should be able to postem back by the weekend and will let you all know as soon as they are posted.
Nice to be back,
Sorin
tjones 08-18-2006, 11:00 AM Thanks a bunch Sorin. I guess you saw the guy wanting the videos because the links got deleted from the free sight. Will you be getting your web sight uploads ready anytime soon?
If you had an area I could upload to I would love to help.
Tim Jones
sorincnc 08-18-2006, 01:17 PM Tim,
I will be uploading them to savefile.com. I will post a link to them as soon as they are posted there (Durring the weekend).
Take care my friend.
tobyaxis 08-18-2006, 01:26 PM Thanks Sorin,
I've never seen your Videos but I have been told by Tjones that they are very good. I look forward to watching them.
LOL maybe this year I'll make it over to Dunedin just to meet veryone at BCC. :cheers: How far is Valkaria from where you guys are?
sorincnc 08-19-2006, 11:49 AM Toby,
Where In Fl is Walkaria????? I live just north of Clearwater . Since I do the trainings every week I am gone from home all the time, that is whay I always say that I do my laundry in Florida but I can consider my self homeless.....LOLOL (sleeping in hotels more than in my own home). If you come this way, drop me a email and let me know when and maybe I could meet you.
sorincnc 08-19-2006, 11:52 AM Toby,
Got it, you are just North of Sebastian...I used to take my twins to their Karate turnaments to Sebastian. Small world......
lakeside 08-19-2006, 12:54 PM Sorin do you do vidio of just say scripping and post for Bobcad not a whole set.I would pay for these
tobyaxis 08-19-2006, 05:50 PM Toby,
Where In Fl is Walkaria????? I live just north of Clearwater . Since I do the trainings every week I am gone from home all the time, that is whay I always say that I do my laundry in Florida but I can consider my self homeless.....LOLOL (sleeping in hotels more than in my own home). If you come this way, drop me a email and let me know when and maybe I could meet you.
Sorin,
My Mom lives in Valkaria. It's South of Melbourne and Palm Bay on the East Coast of Florida very close to Sabastian. I figured a visit to BCC to meet everyone would be nice. The Staff has always been helpful, and polite over the phone no matter what I'm calling for, not to mention knowledgeable.
I'll give Chad or Chris a call soon and let you guys know when. The last time I was in Clearwater the SunSets were absolutely spectacular.
BTW; I live in Long Island NY :frown: :violin: and looking to relocate :D
:cheers:
sorincnc 08-19-2006, 06:34 PM Long Island .......I used to live in Brooklyn for about 3 years....Best food in the whole world.
lakeside 08-19-2006, 06:41 PM My family is from Manhattan, but it was called New Amsterdam back then.
The stroy goes..A boy named Gerrit, son of Hendrick, arrived at "The Rocks" at Swede's Landing, DE in March 1638 aboard the Kalmar Nyckel. He then traveled up the Hudson River to Rensselaerwyck. On 7 May 1646 he married Marretje Lamberts Moll in the New Amsterdam (NYC) Dutch Church. He received a grant of farmland on Manhattan Island on what is now Broadway near Maiden Lane and became known as the Blau Boer (Blue Farmer), his farm, the Blau Veldt. On 22 October 1679, he married Josyntje Janse. In due time, all the surviving children of Gerrit, with the exception of Elizabeth (child of the second marriage) became shareholders in the Tappan Patent and resided there. The Tappan Patent included the current New York towns of Tappan, Orangeburg, Blauvelt, Piermont, Sparkill, Grand View on Hudson, and part of South Nyack as well as the current New Jersey Boroughs of Old Tappan, Northvale, Norwood, West Norwood, and Harrington Park .... in time this is how Blauvelt,NY and Blauvelt State Park get there names.
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=234
tobyaxis 08-19-2006, 06:44 PM Long Island .......I used to live in Brooklyn for about 3 years....Best food in the whole world.
LOL, that is true, but the congestion is not to my liking and the weather is the pits. I'd rather dodge Hurricains than other drivers. :D At least with a Hurricaine you get a little warning ;)
Cool Mike, my family rooting is Kardeen :rainfro:
sorincnc 08-23-2006, 11:49 PM Hello everybody,
I am trying to upload the videos to savefile.com but they are updating their software right now. I don't know how much it is going to be down but I hope to be able to do them tonight.
Regards,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 12:55 AM Hello everybody,
I am trying to upload the videos to savefile.com but they are updating their software right now. I don't know how much it is going to be down but I hope to be able to do them tonight.
Regards,
Sorin
Sorin,
Everyone appreciates all your efforts. Thank You. BTW: I sent you a PM
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 01:06 AM Thanks to you all for the kind words. I have found a new place to upload the files. The uploaded files is 168 meg so be ready for long download time. Here is the link to it: http://www.filefactory.com/upc/256581
Please let me know if it works, got to catch some ZZZZZZs
Best regards,
Sorin
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 01:11 AM Toby,
Didn't get the PM. Probably too soon to be there.
Regards,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 01:13 AM Thanks to you all for the kind words. I have found a new place to upload the files. The uploaded files is 168 meg so be ready for long download time. Here is the link to it: http://www.filefactory.com/upc/256581
Please let me know if it works, got to catch some ZZZZZZs
Best regards,
Sorin
I'll give it a shot on the Workstation, Thanks for everything.
:cheers:
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 01:35 AM Toby,
Didn't get the PM. Probably too soon to be there.
Regards,
Sorin
The PM should be there now. Something must be wrong with the site. I see your listing but there is now download file for it. When you click on your listing Sorin's Videos Vol.3 it just tells how big the file is but no way to download it.
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 02:08 AM Toby and all,
To download the file you need to go to the link and then click on the green link there. Then if you scroll down slowly you will see a blue link called "Download for free File Factory Basic". Now you will be going to a new page and there you will see another blue link for downloading. It is kinda screwey but at least I got them there. Try this link and see if it is simpler (it should take you to the second page for downloads).
www.filefactory.com/dlf/f/256581/b/0/h/2489afb6e2a6df89
I guess that is the price we pay for free stuff.... Anyway, if it doesn't work, then I will have to wait for savefile.com to be done with their website maintenance.
Regards to all,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 02:11 AM Ok, trying again. That is a little screwy. :D
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 02:16 AM Toby and all,
To download the file you need to go to the link and then click on the green link there. Then if you scroll down slowly you will see a blue link called "Download for free File Factory Basic". Now you will be going to a new page and there you will see another blue link for downloading. It is kinda screwey but at least I got them there. Try this link and see if it is simpler (it should take you to the second page for downloads).
www.filefactory.com/dlf/f/256581/b/0/h/2489afb6e2a6df89
I guess that is the price we pay for free stuff.... Anyway, if it doesn't work, then I will have to wait for savefile.com to be done with their website maintenance.
Regards to all,
Sorin
Found it and Downloading :banana:
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 02:17 AM Glad to hear it. I guess I can go to sleep now...
Good night everyone,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 02:22 AM Glad to hear it. I guess I can go to sleep now...
Good night everyone,
Sorin
That's a good Idea. Thanks For Everything. I'll make sure everyone knows they are here :cheers:
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 02:31 AM Me again,
To open the file you will need to go and download the free 30 days trial for stuff it software (that is what I used to create the self installing file that I posted). You will find it at www.stuffit.com
Download the deluxe version for a free 30 days trial.
Sorry, my fault.
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 02:50 AM Ooops!!!!! Took no time at all to download
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 06:47 AM Good morning,
I uploaded a new file at this link http://www.filefactory.com/dlf/f/5109fa/b/3/h/f13c657499f38aff when you get there follow the same steps as above and you should be OK.
Hre are the steps:
Click on the above link
Click on "download for free using File Factory Basic
Click on "Click here to Download now"
Unzip file by clicking on it (no need to download the Stuff it program
Enjoy,
Sorin
:drowning:
lakeside 08-24-2006, 10:33 AM To all who download the trail version of software remember to cancel before your 30 days are up or you paid for the down load.
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 12:17 PM To all who download the trail version of software remember to cancel before your 30 days are up or you paid for the down load.
What free trial, the www.stuffit.com? I didn't get around to downloading that yet. Now I don't have too :banana:
Thanks again Sorin :D
BTW: Did you get the PM yet?
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 01:00 PM Toby,
I will call you over the weekend.
Sorin
lakeside 08-24-2006, 01:02 PM Toby,
I will call you over the weekend.
Sorin
Sorin you may want toby to call you.He a talker from what I hear
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 01:13 PM Sorin you may want toby to call you.He a talker from what I hear
I'll be home all weekend. Thanks!
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 05:39 PM Did anyone tried the files yet. I will like to know if they open OK and are usable. If not, I will have to find other way to post them
Best regards,
Sorin
tjones 08-24-2006, 05:52 PM Sorin,
I tried the Volume 3 and it did great. Did you post more there?
At least the 75% of that volume I have had time to go through today. If you remember I do mostly solids so I love refreshing on the ones you gave us from class.
Thanks for the great videos Sorin.
Tim
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 05:54 PM Have not tried them yet. The download time in the middle of the day is slow at 45mbps. My computer froze during the download trying to design a housing in V21. Ooops!!! plus too many windows (like 10 or 12) open :D I'll do it again in a little while to see if it works. The other file had a slight problem when using file zip so it went to the recycle bin. I may have goofed that rushing (chair)
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 07:06 PM I will have some more over this weekend. I need to clean up some of them and do them in a more professional way...LOL
Anyway, great to hear that they worked for Tim, and hope it will work for the rest of you. Remember, I can't leave them there forever. Once I post the new ones the old ones will be gone.
Regards,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 07:09 PM I will have some more over this weekend. I need to clean up some of them and do them in a more professional way...LOL
Anyway, great to hear that they worked for Tim, and hope it will work for the rest of you. Remember, I can't leave them there forever. Once I post the new ones the old ones will be gone.
Regards,
Sorin
Gotcha!!! I'll download later when internet traffic isn't so high :banana:
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 08:47 PM Ok downloading now at 93.5KB/Sec with 19 minutes to go. :banana:
Done!! Thanks Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 09:27 PM They Work Great !!!!!!!!!!! :rainfro:
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 09:45 PM Hey guys,
Does anyone knows where I can get a free pass for the IMTS show??? I don't have a ticket and don't want to spend 50 bucks unless I have to.
Best regards,
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 10:16 PM Hey guys,
Does anyone knows where I can get a free pass for the IMTS show??? I don't have a ticket and don't want to spend 50 bucks unless I have to.
Best regards,
Sorin
Sorry Sorin,
I didn't get one for Chicago this year, only EastTech :( Didn't get to use it either :(
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 10:24 PM I wanted to get my registration before Aug. 4th for $25.00 but I got side tracked and now it is going to cost me 50 bucks.... I will try one of my tools or materials suppliers. It is a shame because I will be in Chicago durring that show doing 2 seminars. If not I will have to spring for the fifty buck because I am NOT going to miss the show. I have been attending every show for the past 20 years
Regards
tobyaxis 08-24-2006, 10:28 PM I wanted to get my registration before Aug. 4th for $25.00 but I got side tracked and now it is going to cost me 50 bucks.... I will try one of my tools or materials suppliers. It is a shame because I will be in Chicago durring that show doing 2 seminars. If not I will have to spring for the fifty buck because I am NOT going to miss the show. I have been attending every show for the past 20 years
Regards
Walter Tools, GreenLeaf, Seco Carboloy, and Sandvik each sent one last year . I'm sure someone has an extra. Did you ask BobCad if they had an extra Pass?
sorincnc 08-24-2006, 10:37 PM Yes I did. They don't have any left. I will try MSC. If not I will pay the 50 dollars
Regards,
Sorin
tjones 08-24-2006, 11:33 PM Sorin,
Check your mail and get back to me.
We did not get any passes this year even though we are in the middle of buying a new CMM (would have thought that should have scored us at least 2). I even got brouchers from several companies.
I will contact the machine dealer I do some work for and see if they have any.
Tim
krymis 08-25-2006, 08:46 AM Sorin,
I downed the files and they work great. I used my demo version (have not recived my cd from Bobcad yet) to design a box tutorial i found. I have never used bobcad and had a cad file and mach3 code file made within an hour of watching your videos. I understand you are working with the company to make the tutorial videos they sale better? I ordered the videos from bobcad and i hope they are helpful as yours.
tobyaxis 08-25-2006, 11:00 AM Sorin,
I downed the files and they work great. I used my demo version (have not recived my cd from Bobcad yet) to design a box tutorial i found. I have never used bobcad and had a cad file and mach3 code file made within an hour of watching your videos. I understand you are working with the company to make the tutorial videos they sale better? I ordered the videos from bobcad and i hope they are helpful as yours.
I have the 6 Disk set for V20 and they were always a great reference to go back too. Sorin's videos are really good and in depth.
**Note** Sorin will be putting up more as he finishes them. So download them A.S.A.P.
bill south 08-29-2006, 06:28 PM Wonder when the next installment of Sorin's bobcad key to success video's is going to happen. No hurry, just looking forward to them.
Bill
:wave:
sorincnc 08-29-2006, 11:29 PM Bill and all,
Many of you don't know that I am a diabetic. This weekend was a very bad one for me ...Got very sick Friday night and found out from my doctor that it now has started to affect my kidneys....Not very good or happy news to me. I will try to get some more stuff ready for Thursday night uploads. Sorry for the delay.
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-30-2006, 01:02 AM Bill and all,
Many of you don't know that I am a diabetic. This weekend was a very bad one for me ...Got very sick Friday night and found out from my doctor that it now has started to affect my kidneys....Not very good or happy news to me. I will try to get some more stuff ready for Thursday night uploads. Sorry for the delay.
Sorin
Sorry to hear that. :frown:
No problem Sorin. I'm sure everyone appreciates everything that you have done, with a high level of satisfaction to boot. We will wait until your ready, No Rushing.
tjones 08-30-2006, 05:49 AM We will have you in our prayers Sorin. Thanks for all the hard work you have done. You have helped us and BobCAD a lot.
Tim
Randall 08-30-2006, 07:01 PM Sorin
TJones is right, we will have you in our payers. Thank for the video it was great I learned a great deal.
Randy
tobyaxis 08-31-2006, 08:21 PM Sorin I PMed you a different phone number that you can call. We have had a lot of rain this week and the phone lines are getting a bit funky. :o
sorincnc 08-31-2006, 09:45 PM Toby,
Was nice talking to you. Thank you for all the kind words.
Sorin
tobyaxis 08-31-2006, 09:54 PM Toby,
Was nice talking to you. Thank you for all the kind words.
Sorin
It was very nice talking to you too, Sorin. :) Thanks for the tips for the BobArt stuff and I hope you are feeling better.
:cheers:
sorincnc 09-01-2006, 10:33 PM Thank you all for your kindness and prayers. Tim is helping me get my site up and going so I can post all the files there without having anything confusing happening. Just go there and download. We will let you know as soon as it gets done and are going to make it very easy for you guys to download them. I will keep you posted as things progresses. Got to go to bed....Going to Chicago in the morning (FA Swartz for the machinsts....LOL).
Once again, thank you for all your encouragement and kindness.
Sorin
tobyaxis 09-02-2006, 11:26 PM Hello Sorin,
How are you feeling this weekend? Oh Boy, I got my Beer Mugs Back
I have sent Tim 10MB in Zipped Files for your website too. It will be great to hangout with you guys on your site.
Cheers:cheers:
Deviant 09-03-2006, 12:30 AM I downloaded the volume 3 file.
Is there a series 1 and 2?
Never played with bobcad/cam but I like to watch the videos. Helps me to see what the potential for the software is.
Thanks
tjones 09-03-2006, 08:20 AM I downloaded the volume 3 file.
Is there a series 1 and 2?
Never played with bobcad/cam but I like to watch the videos. Helps me to see what the potential for the software is.
Thanks
Sorin has plenty of other videos. He creates these for his training classes and he freely gives many away. He will have a sight up soon where most of these will by posted. He is paying for the sight out of his own pocket. Please feel free to check back later for more info.
bill south 09-03-2006, 08:31 AM Hey Gang.
This is just a thought for bobcad users. Once Sorin gets his site up and running, can I suggest that he publishes a paypal account for donations for the use of his videos. I do mean donations and not fees, that is, unless he starts charging for them.
I would gladly donate a few dollars for use of the videos and Sorin's expertise. Again, I stress that this would be given out of the goodness of ones heart and not a fee. Either donate or not, noone would be the wiser. Again, just a thought.
Sorin,
Take care of yourself buddy. Sorry to hear about your illness!
Bill
sorincnc 09-03-2006, 10:14 AM Bill and all,
There will be NO charge for the videos. I do them because I like to help others and share what ever small knowledge I have. I also do them to help you guys that are Bobcad customers to better understand how the software works and how powerfull it is. Most of the people don't know how much they can get from this software. Anyway, the site is costing me a bunch of money because I have to get tons of space to fit all the videos and not have you guys hurry to download them in 2-3 days. Once again, if anyone will like to help with the cost of the site, I will appreciate it but it is not mandatory. Tim is also spending lots his time helping with the site and maybe we can do something for him. He has no other vested interest in this except that he (just like me) wants to help as much as possibe. Remember, the more we help each other the better off we are going to be. Be kind and courteus with each other and the world will be a better place. By the way, September 11 is comming up, please remember the victims of this tragedy and how it affected our country. Also remember the men and women of our armed services who are fighting for us.
Sorin
Deviant 09-03-2006, 12:22 PM Thanks for the update Sorin.
No worries on the rush for the videos. I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss a known location for the vol1 and vol2. If they were already out there.
I sent you a PM Sorin. Let me know if you have any questions.
tjones 09-03-2006, 09:04 PM Thanks for the update Sorin.
No worries on the rush for the videos. I just wanted to make sure that I didn't miss a known location for the vol1 and vol2. If they were already out there.
I sent you a PM Sorin. Let me know if you have any questions.
I have the Volume 1 and 2 posted now on Sorin's sight. For access please email Sorin and he will provide you with a temporary login and password. This sight now has Volume 1-3. Volumes 1 and 2 need the video codec as described in the other forum thread.
sorincnc 09-04-2006, 10:48 PM Toby,
Feeling kinda OK...Got to get used to it that's all. By the way, "Don't go where the huskies go...Don't you eat the yellow snow"...LOL. You sure made me laugh. Thank you for the files. We will have them up as soon as we can. If anyone wants to help with cool stuff that can be usefull to Bobcad users, please let us know.
Sorin
sc6chuck9 12-26-2006, 06:44 AM I can say that I took a class here in Greenville SC. about a year ago I think for Bob Cad and while I really did and still do like sorincnc the one thing I needed that I didn't get from the class was more hands on stuff. I bought all the extras for help and all that only to find by the time I had time to use B/C I couldn't remember how. When I made calls for help I was always put on hold or asked to call back and all my investment is now pissed away. I do wished companies like this would use there help in hrs that a person used help and not in months that it is good for. I'm real small so I sometimes, hell no, most of the time don't have time to call anyone as I'm trying to get work. I guess it's just a personal problem I have to accept that at 49 I don't remember as well as I did at 18. I sure hope that with this new sorincnc site with free training to look at it will help me remember some so I can start using B/C as winter is my slow time and using it will be a first for me,,,,,thanks for the help one and all,,,Chuck/Bubba
sc6chuck9 12-26-2006, 07:00 AM I just wanted to add that I am still using "G" code and a TI35 calculator faster than I can figure out how to use any of the cam programs I have. I have Powerstation 2000 for which i paid $1500.00 bucks for and have never used, tried to get help with no luck, just got bad mouthed real bad on a site that used to give me a lot of help. I also had version of Gibs that was given to me with the purchace of a milling center and the Gibs folks not far up the road from me gave me 3 days of traing for free, very nice folks there. All to no avail as when I returned from the training only to find out I have been given a stollen copy of Gibs and when my shop computor crashed I could not get it back up. But there 3 day class was all hands on with a computor set up just for each person in class. The last I have is Bob Cad that sorincnc gave me training on. Like I said before, I just gotta accept that I'm old I guess,,,,thanks for letting me rant,,,,,Chuck/Bubba
mike hide 12-26-2006, 05:00 PM I just wanted to add that I am still using "G" code and a TI35 calculator faster than I can figure out how to use any of the cam programs I have. I have Powerstation 2000 for which i paid $1500.00 bucks for and have never used, tried to get help with no luck, just got bad mouthed real bad on a site that used to give me a lot of help. I also had version of Gibs that was given to me with the purchace of a milling center and the Gibs folks not far up the road from me gave me 3 days of traing for free, very nice folks there. All to no avail as when I returned from the training only to find out I have been given a stollen copy of Gibs and when my shop computor crashed I could not get it back up. But there 3 day class was all hands on with a computor set up just for each person in class. The last I have is Bob Cad that sorincnc gave me training on. Like I said before, I just gotta accept that I'm old I guess,,,,thanks for letting me rant,,,,,Chuck/Bubba
I dont agree, the older one gets you can still learn in my opinion it just takes more effort and concentration, with the the required background education .
Myself my grounding is purely mechanical engineering . As a result I am quite happy building the machine and most of the mechanics that go into it . What I have problems with are the electronics that control it and the software that drives it .Again I will come to grips with the electronics even if will end up with a pretty rudimentary knowledge.
For me the biggest problem is coming up with the best [the best bang for the buck] cad /cam combination . Everyone on this group seem to use different combinations with little discussion which and WHY are the best, which are compatable ,easyist to learn and most economical . Perhaps this is not the right venue, to pose these particular questions, but some where users have made choices and reasoned through these choices ,I in particular would like to see some discussion on the subject. I have just about managed to used Turbocad 6.5 so thats where I am ,basically in the dark.
sc6chuck9 12-26-2006, 09:37 PM well Mike all I can add to that is that maybe I was given a much harder road to go down than you as at 49 I'm just very tired, along with tired of every nickle I scape up being taken with not much in return,,,As I ended with before,,,thanks for letting me rant a little,,,,
paulC 12-27-2006, 02:03 AM well Mike all I can add to that is that maybe I was given a much harder road to go down than you as at 49 I'm just very tired, along with tired of every nickle I scape up being taken with not much in return,,,As I ended with before,,,thanks for letting me rant a little,,,,
Well maybe you have answered your own question. I don't think that age comes into it so much as attitude and being able to concentrate. If you are overly tired you will not be able to concentrate. I know what you mean I've been there. You have to find the solution yourself unfortunately. It may be time for a holiday especially if you have been burning the candle at both ends.
Paul
sc6chuck9 12-27-2006, 06:31 AM Well maybe you have answered your own question. I don't think that age comes into it so much as attitude and being able to concentrate. If you are overly tired you will not be able to concentrate. I know what you mean I've been there. You have to find the solution yourself unfortunately. It may be time for a holiday especially if you have been burning the candle at both ends.
Paul
LOL, wow, here I just got done telling of near $10,000 bucks I've spent altogether in time, travel, 3 different products (of which I still cannot use) and all the extras for those products and you wanna tell me it's my "attitude" lmao, I'm about to splite a gut laughing cause doc if your not burning it at both ends and maybe a little in the middle your outta business these days. Man you are either living off your daddies dime or you work for the man and have never owned your own business,,,,,,lol,,,,,and you want me to take a "holiday" again LMAO I'd come back to a business GONE,,,,,Ok, I'm alright now,,,,,really guy, if you let your guard down just a little bit these days , you could loose a small business like mine real fast. I've found one of the biggest problems I have in being a "Good Ole Guy' is there is not that big of a demand for "Good Ole Guys" these days because of so much "Selfcenteredness" that seems to be running rampid in the world today!,,,, again sorry for the rant again,,,,lol,,,,now I'm confused,,,,,am I a frushtrated business owner or a male dear Abby,,,,,lmao,,,have a good day folks,,,,,
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