I hate to see some knucklehead playing with their air
gun like its a brush.
They obviously have no common sense to go along with
no safety training.:mad: :mad:

PEACE:D

Oh then theres the pinhead with their face to the spindle
and NO SAFETY GLASSES:mad: :mad: :mad:
"HELLO McFLY"

PEACE:D

..or grabbing a 3/4" EM by the flutes to pull it out of the holder... :rolleyes:

'Rekd

You can do that safely with an EM if it's 100% blunt!
There's a shop around the corner that sells new eyeballs for 5-95 each although fingers are on back order......
Sounds real? No totally sci-fi.....

Klox

Originally posted by Klox
You can do that safely with an EM if it's 100% blunt!
There's a shop around the corner that sells new eyeballs for 5-95 each although fingers are on back order......
Sounds real? No totally sci-fi.....

Klox

You can walk with a fake leg.

You can chew with false teeth.

You cannot see with a glass eye.

WEAR YOUR SAFETY GLASSES!

'Rekd

+1
Well put Rekd!


Klox

+1 Rekd

PEACE:D

We all need to be safety conscience.

Bearing in mind that those who are not, will not be quality conscience!

And any production may be then, at a loss.

Idiots who think that a paper face mask will protect them from solvent fumes.

Tuck before you ZIP!!

As someone who makes a assload of bike parts, the new chopper shows have increased the bussness. But when was the last time one of them used a helmet or gloves, or even long sleves when tacking or welding!! That really gets my goat. Or the 4 inch angle grinder with no glasses. Thank god none of them have machine tools to use! (chair) (chair) (chair)
Gary

Oh! I forgot about this one!

A friend was stripping asbestos from some old pipes in a hospital- it was all above board and legal with the area sealed off with plastic sheeting and clean air going in with filters for the air going out. Air showers the lot- safety checked and everything.

All employees were suited and booted to the correct standard with expensive air helmets... which... they regularly took off to have a crafty smoke. In order not to get caught, they smoked near the air outlet- (where the greatest concentration of particles were) and had a slit in the sheeting to let the smoke (and asbestos particles, of course) out.

Smokers are more likely to catch asbestosis (or mesotheleoma) because they have fewer hair in their airways which stop particles.

Mesotheleoma only develops after many years (like 25 years). 1 (one) particle can cause it.

I second that TV show lack of safety comment! What bugs me most is that this is on TV for everybody to see, so it appears to the untrained that this is okay. That includes some of the most impressionable, teenagers. They see these shows and think "Hey, that's cool. I want to try that!" And they are at the age where they can start doing those things. So since the guys on TV don't use safety equipment, it must be okay for them to not use it. After all, the TV shows wouldn't let them promote activities that are unsafe would they? Idiots!

Dave

A little off topic, but just to show how stupid some people are...

I pit for a sprint car team. Often I see people who are working on a carbureted motor that won't start. A couple of times, I have seen somebody looking down the carburetor trying to figure out why the car won't start and the motor backfires. Real smart!

Dave

Yeah, and can you imagine all the mechanics all over the world that have done brake jobs and replaced clutch discs on older cars that still used asebstos linings! Take an air hose and blow all the dust all over the shop to "clean" things up. Interesting though, in all the hoopalah we heard about asbestos and such in older buiildings, not much at all was said about the hazards to, or the health issues of, mechanics.

I don't mind people not following known safety rules, I just wish the "safety police" would recognize the hazards too all those exposed to potential problems, not just their white color friends!






Oh! I forgot about this one!

A friend was stripping asbestos from some old pipes in a hospital- it was all above board and legal with the area sealed off with plastic sheeting and clean air going in with filters for the air going out. Air showers the lot- safety checked and everything.

All employees were suited and booted to the correct standard with expensive air helmets... which... they regularly took off to have a crafty smoke. In order not to get caught, they smoked near the air outlet- (where the greatest concentration of particles were) and had a slit in the sheeting to let the smoke (and asbestos particles, of course) out.

Smokers are more likely to catch asbestosis (or mesotheleoma) because they have fewer hair in their airways which stop particles.

Mesotheleoma only develops after many years (like 25 years). 1 (one) particle can cause it.

It gets my goat when someone just leaves the fire extinguisher sitting in a corner of their workshop on the ground. Great use it'll be five years down the line when it has to be used and its base is all rusted and it explodes into his neck leaving him paralysed at best. Many people have been killed by badly maintained fire extinguishers, but not many people are aware of this.

It realy pissis me off when I do any of these things!


did you know also that asbestos is a naturally occuring substance and it is found it the dirt?

.

Before I was born, my dad(who is a toolmaker) crushed his ring finger in the trip dog on the table of a large suface grinder. He was cleaning the machine with a brush, how he got his finger in there i'll never understand. When I was 11, he very nearly severed his hand at the wrist while ripping on a radial arm saw. My mom drove us to the hospital with me thinking the whole way he was going to die. (I don't think my mom ever forgave him for bleeding all over her new 77' newport at least it was vinyl ). I won't even go near a radial arm saw either. four yars ago he trimmed his thumb by about 1/3 lengthwise on a table saw. Last year he lost 1/2 a pinky finger in a bandsaw.This past winter he fell off the roof of his shop, I'm not sure why he was up there, but it's a good thing there was 3 feet of snow on the ground at the time. I'm just hoping he dosen't get a serious injury one of these days. His lasting legacy will be that his sons have learned to have a ton of respect for the equipment they work on, always think twice before you do something, and don't take anything for granted. That way you can get through life without many band-aids.

Dude get your a Dad away from that stuff. Whats wrong with you? If my Dad was losing bits and pieces of body parts, I think I would have had him commited.

When I was 11, he very nearly severed his hand at the wrist while ripping on a radial arm saw.
Why do you think they call it a radial Arm saw?

Unfortunately, he dosen't see anything wrong with his behavior. (unlike the rest of the people around him) uhhhghh! For a while I worried about what might happen next, but it was a full time job. Locking him up would be the only solution, but I can't find a doctor to sign the papers. I have suggested he might at least avoid equipment with the word saw included. I have only listed the shop related accidents he has had. We don't have time to go through the others.

He's one of the true "acident prone" people you always hear about!

tell him to get a desk job and stay away from the dangerous stuff! :D

He's one of the true "acident prone" people you always hear about!

tell him to get a desk job and stay away from the dangerous stuff! :D

That is not safe!!! Too much exposure to paper and the hazard of paper cuts.

I can't tell you how many time that I have had to look at someone in the shop and say"I can't hear you I don't have my saftyglass on"

"I can't hear you I don't have my saftyglass on"

:tired:


I don't get it! maybe its the delivery! :D


try again :stickpoke

Hey Gang,
Having spent my career (40+years) in the "safety business" I have come to the conclusion that 99% of safety is "COMMON SENSE".
To many times have I seen "accidents" that have occured with disaterous results because somebody (even if they were wearing proper equipment) suffered disaterous results because they did something STUPID.

All the equipment in the world will not protect you if you will not pay attention to what you are doing and what is going on around you.

To plagerize and elaborate on an earlier post:

Safety glasses will not protect you if you point the gun at you eye and pull the trigger!

Bubba

Maybe this should be converted to a poll. How many of the stupid acts listed in these 27 or so posts are you gulity of commiting? Be honest; my count is three.

Several years ago, A young man was killed in a shop here in town while working on a lathe doing an ordinary job on just another day. This shop is owned by a guy i'd known for a long time and I belive it was part of his extended family.It was a tradgedy you didn't feel comfortable talking about at the time. This is a medium size shop with about 60 employees and he was working in the toolroom on afternoons. Break was around 7 and when one of the guys was coming off break he glanced through the door to the toolroom to see one of the lathes was running with no one in there. He walked over to turn it off and found this guy in the back of the lathe lying in the chip tray. They found he was wearing gloves, (and had been warned 3 times not to wear them around such equipment) and had been polishing a shaft. They figure the glove had caught, and pulled his arm in which was almost seperated from his body. Pulling his arm in resulted in his head smashing into the chuck, and there was a trail of grey matter up the wall. Judging by the brusies they think it flopped him around a couple of times before spitting him out the back. He was kept on lfe support until his family could come down from the Ottawa area. The lathe he was working on was only about a 20X80, so it wasn't really a large machine. So next time you're looking at that spinning chuck, just remember what can happen! I personally saw a guy get his shirt ripped from his body doing the same thing, and he was lucky he could reach the brake in time.

Any time I'm running the manual lathe and curious people get close to me I turn it off. All the way off to disable the starting lever. Last thing I want is someone hanging over my shoulder distracting me.

Maybe this should be converted to a poll. How many of the stupid acts listed in these 27 or so posts are you gulity of commiting? Be honest; my count is three.


just 3? I have personaly done alot more than 3 of them! Although most have been non-dangerous occurances. I am constantly guilty of the saftey glass issue as I wear reading glasses and always forget them and develope a reading head ache (for a reminder :D). On the other hand I do enforce the eye glasses on everyone else!

And some of them I just plain don't agree with (one of in particular) but do agree there is a certain amount of peril involved. But there is a certain amount of danger involved in almost everything, you just have to make it so its acceptable and if your lazy about it be able to deal with the consequences of your actions.

Theres certain safety that has become a joke nowadays.

Modern Safety No.1:
Not letting a guy climb a ladder because he isn't 'trained' is crazy. In fairness I did have a friend who was killed falling off a 6ft ladder, but even so, how much training can you give for climbing up a ladder?

Modern Safety No.2:
On the other hand is good and obvious safety, such as buying proper equipment and using it. Doing otherwise is just plain stupid and you deserve whatever you get. E.G: Dust Extractor, Protective Clothing, Wearing Eye Glasses milnjor!! ;)

True Stories:
1)I had a guy in work tell me he couldnt change a smoke alarm battery because he wasn't qualified to use the ladder. (Yes, I changed it myself)

2)Wanna hear an even worse one....you might not but here it is anyway...: I was fire officer in work for a period. The escape ladder was damaged and unservicable so I applied for a replacement. The letter came back accepting that the ladder needed replacement but some genius on high had decided that we wouldn't get a new one because if there was a fire and someone injured themselves climbing the ladder out of a burning building then they could sue!!! There was no way to guarantee that the escaping person would have been trained.

Ok fair enough, I had the letter so if someone burned to death I was covered, but its still pretty crap. Thats what H&S with a liberal dose of the sueing mentality has led to.

How many of you have been clearing a cut on the mill with a brush and had the cutter grab the brush out of your hand and then eat it till half way up the handle? :eek: (and then be glad the handle didn't break the cutter or mess up the finish). :rolleyes:

Wow, some of these I really just LOL at. Cutter eating abrush :D I can't really say I've done that one.

As I've stated in another thread, the only time I have ever been seriously hurt in my eyes is hiking with rap around sunglasses! I have also gotten sanding grit in my eye with good safety glasses. Nothing is 100% not even minding your own business enjoying a nice walk.

Doesn't mean that I think you shouldn't wear safety glasses. I just think they are way overrated! Its all in how you deal with a situation. If your blowing chips off with an air gun :D (ya I know some of you hate this) then wear the glasses, or in my case look thru the clear door or better yet close your eyes and get behind the clear door. no... no... I got it get behind the clear door and wear safety glasses close your eyes and .... Maybe a face shield! ya that’s it!

Or in reality use your brain and take precautions. When you are doing this for a while you learn which machines throw stuff everywhere (sanders, grinders and the like) and things that don't (enclosed CNC lathes and mills are a good example) and work with the risks.

Of course I am a business owner and don't let the employees make that decision.

Of course nothing is certain! Life is risky. Deal with it!

My ultimate pet peave is Gloves on exposed rotating style machinery (ie lathes, mills car engines ) This dosn't seam to be a common sense thing. I have told it to almost everyon at one time or another. Hell I probably would have done it had I not seen a guy get pulled in and break his arm!

or course there is always the hair spray while smoking one too. :D

or course there is always the hair spray while smoking one too. :D

smoking one what?

Steve, the scary thing about gloves is how often you hear of diy's using them - I guess they think it protects the hands. All you newcomers out there - never use gloves around an operating machine! Once the really obvious is put aside (eye protection, loose hair/clothing & gloves) the most dangerous home shop machine is the drill press. Again, many diy's don't seem aware of this but that work can grab very easily then things get ugly. I have a short section of 4x4 angle C-clamped to the table - sort of a back stop so that whatever i'm working on, be it stock or vice, can't spin around.

unless of course the drill press is my cheap chinees one that I can stop with my hand! ;)

lakeside: a cigaret! :D some women just deserve to be bald!

Ps: my sister used to smoke and make her hair at the same time. Until I came in took the can snatch the cigaret and lite the flame thrower! didn't have to say a word! it was awsome.. Although on the plus side I don't believe the stuff is that flamable anymore.

..... Although on the plus side I don't believe the stuff is that flamable anymore.

Since the banning of flurocarbon propellants in spray cans some brandes have become more flammable. Hair spray is the classic fuel used for potato cannons. Works like a h.d. too.

years ago invited some friends up to cottage...i'd been busy in the garage that week and when one of the guys asked what he could bring and i told him hairspray and a couple of bags of potatoes. wouldn't tell him why which of course drove him crazy. by Sat afternoon we're going into town to buy potatoes. can't remember laughing so hard, just a couple of knuckle heads acting like 10 year olds - surprised my kids didn't run for the hills.

all done in a completely safe manner mind you, just to bring it back on topic

Since the banning of flurocarbon propellants in spray cans some brandes have become more flammable. Hair spray is the classic fuel used for potato cannons. Works like a h.d. too.

this really suprises me as when I was a mechanic they were trying to make all of the carb. cleaners and propellants non-flamable. At least they had their priorities right! Just let darwin sort em out! :D

A little off topic, but just to show how stupid some people are...

I pit for a sprint car team. Often I see people who are working on a carbureted motor that won't start. A couple of times, I have seen somebody looking down the carburetor trying to figure out why the car won't start and the motor backfires. Real smart!

Dave

Been there, seen that... i had fixed a broken wire on my Ducati 851 motorcycle, as my dad walked into the garage to see what i was up to.. the bike was running idle with the tank upright at that time, and i showed him the Throttlebodies with those massive butterflie-valves in them..you could also see the jets of gas from the injection system, when i cranked the throttle.. next thing i know, he's bending over to those two hungry throats sucking in loads of air and gas.. an with his finger he points to a little brass sensor asking what's this for?".. ( the air sensor ), at the moment he touched it, the machine backfired massivly ( 2 collumns of fire about 2 feet high... he wore glasses, luckily, but his hair, beard and moustache looked funny for weeks.. :)

One of the biggest pet peeves I have is to see someone using an air gun, full blast cleaning the floor. Or, to see, (hear), someone blowing an insert, that is on an allen wrench, making a monkey whisle sound...And thinking it is cool.
But, one of the unsafest things I see everyday is management expecting their hourly counts, but if things are not going well for the operators, they will start taking short cuts, working faster, not thinking in the process...I know there are a lot of "little" injuryies, that go unreported, or even unnoticed. Just all around bad stuff.

One of the most important PPE I think of is not considered by many...Boots. I like having good boots. It's a good thing the ones I like are only $40.00. Four to five pair a year.

idiots who cleared the swarf from a pocket with there fingers while the machine was still running. ended up clearing his finger out as well.
or quinching a ciggerete in the edm tank.
or even machining graphite with an air line to clear the dust instead of a vacume, blowing it all over the shop.
"the problem with common sense, it aint that common"

A year or so ago, we had a new guy start with "30 years experience". His first job was working with some 1.5" hex stock in our largest lathe. His excuse for what happened was that he misread the spindle speed chart.

He started the lathe up at 1500 rpm with about 5 feet of stack hanging out the back of the spindle bore. i heard a great shuddering sound. That was the 20 ft. long lathe hopping up and down on the concrete floor. Whe I saw schrapnel start flying in about the first 2 or 3 seconds, I started running. The only thing that stopped it was that the lathe eventually moved so much it jerked the 3 phase cord out of the machine. Shcrapnel went throught the ceiling and walls of the shop, and the bar of hex stock was bent to almost 90 degrees. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Everybody in the shop said they didn't know i could move that fast.

Shcrapnel went throught the ceiling and walls of the shop, and the bar of hex stock was bent to almost 90 degrees. Fortunately, no one was hurt. Everybody in the shop said they didn't know i could move that fast.

I suppose thats one way of making allen keys... I'm glad I wasn't there. Seeing a little piece of stock in a drill press decided it likes the bit better than the vice is scary enough. (now)