Can lasercut software and motherboard be bought to replace the Moshisoft in the machine now
Thanks

HI, mike. it can be changed into lasercut software. In such case, please change motherboard of it. talking about this by email is more better. also your friend has told me he is using lasercut software and machine 600*900mm working area.

Dear oliver zhang

Soon I need a laser machine 6090 and I will contact you. By the way I have visited your site and found a sample "samples for laser engravers and cutting machines" Acryclic.

Please tell me the speed and min. max power so I can make a good sample.

Thanks.

Dear oliver zhang

Soon I need a laser machine 6090 and I will contact you. By the way I have visited your site and found a sample "samples for laser engravers and cutting machines" Acryclic.

Please tell me the speed and min. max power so I can make a good sample.

Thanks.

Hi, dear friend. laser machine 6090, we use 60w or 80w for it. its engraving speed is 60000mm/min, however, all depend on different cases. thanks for visiting our website. waiting your reply by email. thanks. Email: oliver9866@gmail.com

Hi all,

We are a start up company in Silicon Valley dedicated in the personal laser engrave machine business. Our goal is to fill in the gap between the high end industrial machine made in US and low performance/hi maintenance machine imported from China. The followings are our major features of our product,

1. RF CO2 laser, aluminum tube made in US, forced air cooling system, no water cooling. Up to 7 years laser life time.
2. Built in exhaust purification system, eliminating toxic odors.
3. Affordable price, $7~$8k.
4. US based tech support & customer service.

For more info and product spec, please visit us at www.aometcorp.com

what happened to my Post ???

Kevin_au,
I understand that there are many different types of machines but generically for argument sake let us look at a either a 60 or 80Watt 6090 machine (seams most Ppl are looking around this size)
they would use servos or steppers
if steppers what size? 4 or 6 wire, what brand, are they 1.8deg do they have micro stepping?
do they use ball screws?
if so what brand
what pitch
what is the the backlash?
Are they pre loaded and adjustable?
what brand of Controllers?
are the opto isolated?
What is the voltage ?
Do the machines have home and limit switches ?
If so are spares available
What voltage?
Are they are they NpN or PnP?
Are there safety switch's?
One in the lid - to stop laser if lid is lifted?
Emergency Stop
what brand and type of laser tubes are used
Are they Glass - Thick way or thin wall
Are they stainless steal
What is the warranty
How will they be sent
Can they be replaced by the owner
What is max cutting depth in acrylic
At 5mm cutting depth how fast can they cut in acrylic
air cooled or water cooled
If air cooled what is the volume CFM ?
If water cooled, is it via a chilling unit or just thru a large bucket
what is the exhaust System
blower or extractor ?
If extractor does it pass thru filters
If through filters what sizes (2Micron etc..)
Are the mirrors 3 point adjustable?
does it have a red focus light?
What software is include?
What software can be used on they system (maybe you already have a nother brand laser and don't want to relearn other software)

how will the unit and tube be packed for shipment?

is there an operating manual?
is there a setup / repair DVD


Of course some of these details might be propriety

but specifications of some description would help Ppl decide if suppliers are competitive rather than simply showing a picture and a price...

Mark

Hi, Is Moshidraw able to laser photos that have been sized and all in Corel.
Thanks
Toby

Hi all, i got a cheap chinese machine (300x250mm x 40W), the machine came with suck moshidraw too.
I disassemble the entire machine, fixed correctly all guides and rollers, swapped the driver ( I put two cards )and now (with the moshidraw in the trash), I can draw on artcam or Corel, cut Vectors and engraving at hight speed. I use Mach2 as controll software. Tomorrow i ll make a gas assist nozzle.
watch that:

YouTube - Rick Laser engraving 2

Hi, Is Moshidraw able to laser photos that have been sized and all in Corel.
Thanks
Toby
OK Guy where did you get the laser I have wanted one for years!
And how cheap is cheap?

Hi, Is Moshidraw able to laser photos that have been sized and all in Corel.
Thanks
Toby

Hi, Toby, the moshi software is able to work by laser photos. and .jpg and .jpeg can work on moshi software.

OK Guy where did you get the laser I have wanted one for years!
And how cheap is cheap?

hi, dear friend. you can contact me by email. i will send you some information for the machine. there are 2 kinds of desktop laser machine. so, you can choose it according to your demands. Email: oliver9866@gmail.com
Waiting your quick reply. thanks.

OK Guy where did you get the laser I have wanted one for years!
And how cheap is cheap?

hi, dear friend. you can contact me by email. i will send you some information for the machine. there are 2 kinds of desktop laser machine. so, you can choose it according to your demands. Email: oliver9866@gmail.com
Waiting your quick reply. thanks.

the photo show one is US$350 only
but it's hard to ship to US
it didn't got CE

only usd 350 ?? what is it ? if you want machines for usa marketing, i can offer them. that is no problme. contact me by email: oliver9866@gmail.com thanks.

US 350???
what machine???
so cheap, please be carefull

US 350???
what machine???
so cheap, please be carefull

??? i never say my machine is usd 350. i also have doubt what machine it will be if it only cost usd 350. Just use rubbish components to make it ??? the mini desktop laser machine i offer my agent usd 600. and another desktop laser machine is usd 1200. However, the price is always matched with the machines quality and its performance. Take care of that. All depends on your choice.
One more question, the end user price will be 5-10 times of agent price, this according to different marketing. However, the agent need to deal with custom for import and service for customers.
For any doubt, contact me by email: oliver9866@gmail.com thanks.

the first page show little laser machine
is only US$300>US$350 in china
300mmX300mm 60W
and a 2KW china make only US$30000
it's true
and also U can find some laser DIY set in china web site
a 40w set U can build with US$125
the only problem is all product can't ship to US all direct
cause US will check the CE

the first page show little laser machine
is only US$300>US$350 in china
300mmX300mm 60W
and a 2KW china make only US$30000
it's true
and also U can find some laser DIY set in china web site
a 40w set U can build with US$125
the only problem is all product can't ship to US all direct
cause US will check the CE

we can ship them to you if only need CE certificate. we can offer that. however, our machine never is less than usd 600 till now. and usd 600 is for agent price. now we are talking this machine with our agent from USA.

the first page show little laser machine
is only US$300>US$350 in china
300mmX300mm 60W
and a 2KW china make only US$30000
it's true
and also U can find some laser DIY set in china web site
a 40w set U can build with US$125
the only problem is all product can't ship to US all direct
cause US will check the CE

hi, friend. can i know more where you are from ? do you know how much of one laser tube of 40w, how much of one laser tube of 60w ?? you say the cost for diy desktop laser machine is usd 125 ?? ok. if so, please offer me such information, also you can public their information here to let more friends know that. then every friend can get good price.
please take care of your words. thanks.
if you know cost is only usd 125. why they sell more than usd 1500 in hongkong of china at least, and china sell overseas agent more than usd 600. and only 40w short laser tube. in current marketing, profit will be more than ten times of cost ?? joking...
please explain your words to every friend here, thanks.
i only want to explain the price to pulic. thanks.
we can share good price if it do good to every friend.

Does anyone know where a web site in China or anywhere else you can find a 300-400 dollar laser or wood router about 200mm-300mm?
There has been a lot of talk on this site about them but no one has posted a web site or contact person.
I am looknig for one to use in my work shop to scratch build my planes.
I dont need a fancy or expensive machine. The parts I am making are not for resale. I dont want to use it later in a business as I am disabled and retired permanently.
I dont mind a used/ cheap/ slightly abused machine..If it need servo motors Ive got that..If it needs servo drivers ive got that too..I dont want to build from scratch but I dont mind repairing a machine..desk top size.(slightly large?)
I dont mind if it is a laser or router cnc machine.
I dont mind driving 200-300 miles to get it if the price is right.
Why do I feel I am on a witch hunt?
vicsrc

can anyone that have a chinese laser tell me if that works as other lasers..?

can anyone that have a chinese laser tell me if that works as other lasers..?

I would imagine that most people using a Chinese laser (as I am) would only have *one* laser - so wont be able to offer a comparison with 'other' lasers, whatever they are....:rolleyes:

And what do you mean when you say 'works as other lasers' ?

Basic operation is the same, i.e. uses CO2 laser beam, in a flying optics setup (or perhaps some other means) that moves a focused infra-red beam over the work (or moves the work under the beam) :confused:

i mean if the power is good.. the machine like a computer and if there is any problems that cant be resolved. the prices are too diferebt (epilog... trotec..) i am close enough to buy one from australia reddtotinternational.. does enyone use this to do a comparison? thank you all for your time!

Hi

How to remove chips from engraved crystal or galss when it become sticky ?

Does anyone know of one of these desktop machines that will cut 1.5mm thick stainless?

Does anyone know of one of these desktop machines that will cut 1.5mm thick stainless?

That's extremely unlikely Scooby - in fact I doubt you will find a desktop that would cut through 0.0005 stainless!

Certainly, a CO2 laser wont do it, and I've never heard of a "desktop" YaG unit (although I'd like to be proven wrong...)

Bob

Thanks Bob i feared as much, i guess ill have to continue my quest for making somthing that will do it, im considering edm wire but would have loved a laser cutter.

Thanks Bob i feared as much, i guess ill have to continue my quest for making somthing that will do it, im considering edm wire but would have loved a laser cutter.

Have you looked into water-jets?
They are used for cutting stuff, but again I doubt there are any table-top sized units...
Bob

Does anyone know of one of these desktop machines that will cut 1.5mm thick stainless?

Hi, Scooby, the laser machine can not cut metal materials. And RF laser machine can engrave on metal materials, however, never cut it. And you have to use powerful laser machine to cut metal. like co2 laser 2000w/3000w/5000w, etc.

Hi, Scooby, the laser machine can not cut metal materials. And RF laser machine can engrave on metal materials, however, never cut it. And you have to use powerful laser machine to cut metal. like co2 laser 2000w/3000w/5000w, etc.

This is not quite true. You can cut metal with a 100 watt CO2 laser. We do it. www.kernlasers.com

Have you looked into water-jets?
They are used for cutting stuff, but again I doubt there are any table-top sized units...
Bob

I have but the mess involved makes it a bit limited for my useage, the high power pumps need to be 3 phase power and the area to work needs to be quite big, no table top units and i cant work out how to make one that small but thanks for the suggestion.


Derek, whats your smallest machine and how much is it? i click on uk and ire on your website and it took me to a blank page so thought it would be quicker to just ask you here.

This is not quite true. You can cut metal with a 100 watt CO2 laser. We do it. www.kernlasers.com

hi, dear friend. You say co2 laser 100w can cut metal ? oh, i can not imagine of that. Usually we use laser 2000w-5000w for metal cutting. And Rf laser cut engrave on metal materials. however, co2 laser can not do that if power is only 100w.

hi, dear friend. You say co2 laser 100w can cut metal ? oh, i can not imagine of that. Usually we use laser 2000w-5000w for metal cutting. And Rf laser cut engrave on metal materials. however, co2 laser can not do that if power is only 100w.

Sorry but you are wrong, A 100 watt CO2 laser can cut metal. Visit us and I will show you in person. I will even let you run the laser system.

Sorry but you are wrong, A 100 watt CO2 laser can cut metal. Visit us and I will show you in person. I will even let you run the laser system.

Hi Derek,

I have to admit that I am skeptical also, but I don't doubt your word. Can you tell us what type and how thick of metal you can cut with your 100w system? What focal length lens do you use and what speed do you cut at?

Thanks,
Skip

I don't have the 100 watt thicknesses memorized but here is what I do.

150 watt can cut .090" Mild Steel and .070" Stainless steel

400 watt can cut .1875" Mild Steel and .125" Stainless Steel

The 100 watt is around .070" Mild and .050" Stainless


Speed at these thicknesses are around .1"/sec but you can cut at decent speeds when you get into thinner metals. We have lots of customers with multiple systems that are cutting their sheet metal to size.

We have videos on Youtube and our website showing metal cutting with these small lasers. Lots of people are skeptical but when they come to our factory they leave impressed and believers. I would love to have anyone up to Minnesota to see us.

Thanks for that info Derek, that's very interesting. I'm guessing that you must use a very short focal length lens when cutting metals?

Skip

1.5" and 2.5" Focal length lenses

Is this of interest to anyone?

www.maestroengraving.com

Hello steve

May purchase an FL3050 Co2 Laser from China.

Looking for feed back on these units and have a few ??

?? spares i should pre arrange
?? software best suited
?? expected life cycle

I will be engraving Hard anodized alluminium with sequencial numbering
and some stainless marking.

Thanks
Best Regards
Paul Stanley

Hi Paul Stanley

The main manufacturer of this machine is "http://www.shenhuilaser.com/"
They are excellent in after sales and in technical too. I have two machine DC-G350 and they are running good. Contact person is Ms Jane Wie.

Hi Derek,
What will be the thickness for cutting plastic vs metal as what you stated earlier:
150 watt can cut .090" Mild Steel and .070" Stainless steel.

This is not quite true. You can cut metal with a 100 watt CO2 laser. We do it. www.kernlasers.com

It is possible cut metal with any laser machine with any laser CO2 machine, or your machine have something special?

with 80w laser can be cut metal?

Thanks Alejandro Angel, but my enquiries to Derek is a comparison of thickness between metal and plastic, eg. if @ 100watts the thickness is 1mm for metal than what will be for plastic? Just to get a rough understanding.
I saw the picture of the cast acrylic which is thick(? mm) & with fire polished finishing looks good - what power was used?

...a comparison of thickness between metal and plastic, eg. if @ 100watts the thickness is 1mm for metal than what will be for plastic? ?

I don't think you can compare them like that, metal and plastic behave quite differently after all - and I believe the metal was done using an oxygen assist.
(i.e. pretty much like a 'gas-axe', apply lots of heat and blast the material out the back)

But if it's any help, my 80 watt laser can just cut through 12mm of acrylic in one pass, if set to full power and lowest speed.

Bob

Sorry it took me so long to write back. I was away for the weekend.

Here is what a 150 watt co2 laser can do.

.070" stainless steel (oxygen assist)

.090" mild steel (oxygen assist)

1" cast acrylic (shop air assist)

It is possible cut metal with any laser machine with any laser CO2 machine, or your machine have something special?

with 80w laser can be cut metal?

Not likely unless your system is setup to do so. You need to use oxygen assist to cut steel and you also need a way to keep the nozzle a constant distance away from the metal so that you dont loose your focal point. You need a automatic Z axis that will track the metal.

Thanks Derek for the info.
What is the estimated cost for the 150 watt?

Does anyone have experience with the lasers from Jcut? I'm thinking of buying an jcut6090 from them. Anyone know witch controlling software they use? Lasercut?

Url: http://www.cnc-laser-cutter.com/index.html

thanks for your replies

Mats

dear mats
the machine is ok, but if you askn about it by its manifacturer (Gweike laser in jinan). After you compare the price between them.
software they use Lasercut
hope i could help
ryad

You can find many people in this forum people who have machines from rabbit laser and G weike laser, and many who had problems with many other brands, then why not buy some that had work for many, instead of try a new one not known ...?

hada malou: thanks for the info. have made a request for their prices.

lamicron: yes i know that, but i got a really god offer from jcut. and as hada malou confirmed it is the same lasers that G weike delivers. so i'm waiting for answers from both of them.

I've now ordered a LC6090 80W with all optional accessory from WKlaser. Can't wait to recieve it and start playing with it.. (yes, playing first business afterwards) :D

I just ordered a Redsail M500 with a rotary unit, total price ~AU$4500. It should arrive in two or three weeks, I'll post up a review of it when I've gotten it set up and working.

http://www.hflaser.com/

Does anyone already have a chart of all the available machines along with prices, features, and contact information for purchase? I've gone through 20 or 30 pages worth of this thread and wow, its a lot to try and glue together. Seems like it'd make for a great sticky post.

I bought a laser machine in jinan Ruijie, with the option, laser pointer, servo-motor driven with a card MPC leetro by 6575, it has been 2 months since my machine, it's still not working!. it my cost us $ 7000 on software and lasercut 5.3.
after-sales service can not bring myself to troubleshoot the machine doing well the displacement of lines and back to the original, but it refuses to execute a cutting, no laser, it is all the time rectangles, but not the work I asked.
thank you for your help

Hi all,
finaly done all changes in my cheap 40w desktop machine:

The original stepper motor driver board was changed to two cnc stepper motor driver board.
All mechanics was disassembled and assembled again the correct way.
Was added a gas assist nozzle
Red diode to guide ,
The original software and board were duly thrown in the garbage (along with the Dog)
Now i can cut vector exported from Corel , autocad, and at a speed record by 4 times higher than before, using the Mach2 .

Cutting Lycra YouTube - Rick Laser corte tecido lycra
cutting MDF 3,5mm YouTube - RickLaser Corte MDF3mm
Engraving MDF YouTube - Rick Laser engraving 2

Congratulations on getting your machine running so well.

Are these little desktop units all so bad that you need to completely rebuild them and replace the drives?

Congratulations on getting your machine running so well.

Are these little desktop units all so bad that you need to completely rebuild them and replace the drives?
Thank you,
Yes, it is....... but this machine is so cheap that even with the rebuild it remains cheap and you get a nice small machine .

I bought a laser machine in jinan Ruijie, with the option, laser pointer, servo-motor driven with a card MPC leetro by 6575...


Are you sure it's "6575" ?

Couldn't find that part number on Leetro's site.
It could be the 6515 - which is used for laser engravers.
Bob

Are you sure it's "6575" ?

Couldn't find that part number on Leetro's site.
It could be the 6515 - which is used for laser engravers.
Bob


Hi,
I am sure it's MPC 6575,
the card is used with servo motor, look at the site of leetro in (stand alone.....)

ddgman2001, I disagree with oneeye - but not entirely.

I've been pleased with my cheap Chinese laser from Jinan Artsign. It is sold as an engraver, and for that it does an excellent job. It will cut certain materials but not as well as it could. It is here the software and electronics let it down, the software in my case is NewlyDraw.

The lowest speed is not slow enough for thicker materials, requiring 2-pass or higher power than other similar rated machines.

Depending on your application it may work just fine.

Having said that, changing the controller board out for a Xylotex or something similar and replacing the software with Mach3 would improve the tool - no doubt.

It's machanical construction is 'poor' but adequate, and makes a good project for improvements. If you want an out of the box solution without support issues then it's probably not the machine for you.

Zax.



Thank you,
Yes, it is....... but this machine is so cheap that even with the rebuild it remains cheap and you get a nice small machine .

Hi,
I am sure it's MPC 6575,
the card is used with servo motor, look at the site of leetro in (stand alone.....)



Ah... found it.
In that case, I can't help, sorry!

Do the rectangles you describe getting, seem to be the perimeter of the design you have sent to the laser?

I ask this because there is a function (in LC5.0, anyway - which I use) to 'cut around the outside' of the design - maybe that's what you are getting?

You might want to have a look at Solustan's LinkMotion, which I've now managed to get running on an MPC 6515 - with some help from their engineers!

Bob

hi,
can you give me a picture of the ( cut around the outside)
solustan I contacted to ask if I can use the software linkmotion with my card, waiting for news.
lolo

hi,

who knows the sofware lasermate and easycut 6.0
Thank you for your answer
lolo

ddgman2001, I disagree with oneeye - but not entirely.

I've been pleased with my cheap Chinese laser from Jinan Artsign. It is sold as an engraver, and for that it does an excellent job. It will cut certain materials but not as well as it could. It is here the software and electronics let it down, the software in my case is NewlyDraw.

The lowest speed is not slow enough for thicker materials, requiring 2-pass or higher power than other similar rated machines.

Depending on your application it may work just fine.

Having said that, changing the controller board out for a Xylotex or something similar and replacing the software with Mach3 would improve the tool - no doubt.

It's machanical construction is 'poor' but adequate, and makes a good project for improvements. If you want an out of the box solution without support issues then it's probably not the machine for you.

Zax.

Hi Zax,
u are right! this machine is sold as engraving, i only did that upgrades cause i need a small cutting / engraving machine, so , cause i increase speed the machine start to disasemble, so i had to do some changes in mechanic . The gas assist nozle is absolutly necessary in any laser machines to protect the lenses and help to cut.
But this machine is lovely, even original, in fact I can't understand how this machine such as a cheap cost.

Here is the link for here on the zone http://www.cnczone.com/gallery/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/4456

Aksess, I was reading the posts for the laser - and your art showed up.
You do incredible work!
Do you have a build log for your machine? Plans?
I have been debating building a CNC for some time, and yours looks just like what I have envisioned.

Thanks, and hope that your laser keeps working.
-Doug

Hi everybody ! nice thread !

I can't afford a laser yet but i'm gathering some info to see at what diy level a laser can be made & how to manage to DIY the most expensive parts like the CO2 tube or mirrors.

For the mirors, i think but i ain't sure that the disk plates from the hard drives can be used, are the mirrors you're using flat or concave ?

Can we use the big lens from photocopiers for a focus lens ?

On the mule i've found the ebook "Electronic gadgets for the evil genius" it has the plans for a 20W CO2 laser power supply and assembly here's the list for the parts look for Chapter 8 (http://www.amazing1.com/evil_genius.htm)

After reading the thread i guess 20w isn't that much but, it might be ok for a starter...What would it take to upgrade it to 60W would it require upgrading the tube for a longer one ?


Thanks !
cnc2.

I guess the general consensus would be to save money to purchase a 20w laser instead of going for a DIY flow CO2 laser. And yes the power is linearly dependent on the discharge length and the discharge length is dependent on HV PSU, the lower the HV voltage - the shorter the discharge length is, 60w tubes are about 1.2 meters long IIRC.

I have a set of plans for a 55 watt flow laser, one thing (among many others) about it I didn't like is that in the pics the laser spot looks like a quarter while firing at a brick from like 1 feet away.

Just looking for OC and HR on ebay you are getting prices like 100+ USD and there are a lot more parts, vacuum pump, gas tank/cylinder regulators, glass tubes, mixture gas to name a few.

I don't have a laser yet, just gathering motion components right now, and the laser tube will be the last thing I purchase, because chinese tubes cannot sit around waiting, gas mixture degenerates.

I guess the general consensus would be to save money to purchase a 20w laser instead of going for a DIY flow CO2 laser. And yes the power is linearly dependent on the discharge length and the discharge length is dependent on HV PSU, the lower the HV voltage - the shorter the discharge length is, 60w tubes are about 1.2 meters long IIRC.

I have a set of plans for a 55 watt flow laser, one thing (among many others) about it I didn't like is that in the pics the laser spot looks like a quarter while firing at a brick from like 1 feet away.

Just looking for OC and HR on ebay you are getting prices like 100+ USD and there are a lot more parts, vacuum pump, gas tank/cylinder regulators, glass tubes, mixture gas to name a few.

I don't have a laser yet, just gathering motion components right now, and the laser tube will be the last thing I purchase, because chinese tubes cannot sit around waiting, gas mixture degenerates.
Thanks for you help Konstantin ! can we see that picture ?

One thing i don't understand yet: is the laser gas mixture trapped in the plasma discharge tube or is it recirculating ???

This guy (http://www.altair.org/CO2laser.html) states it's possible to DIY the laser tube, what do you think ?


For the flat mirrors the disk plate from a hard disk drive can be used, they are ~perfect mirrors, i heared they are coated with platinium. EDIT: but not concave !

Thanks !

cnc2.

all of you in this forum own a laser and work with it.. after a research i made (in greece mostly) i found onw l ls5 cam tech but it iw too expensive for starting a buisines with that.. if i buy a smaler one as it iw sei poseidon or eureka.. is possible to work on granite making photos with theese laser? theese cost half money and less rom the cam tech!

To minesweeper: laser is not suitable for engraving on stone. We are selling special equipment with which you can engrave up to 1,5 mm depth on stone. The working tool is diamond needle. If you need more information - let me know. Price is about 8500 Euro for working area 40x60 cm, and 11 500 Euro for 90x120 cm

hi,

who knows the sofware lasermate and easycut 6.0
Thank you for your answer
lolo

lasermate and easycut6.0 can be any names,they can be named by the company who sell you the laser machine. Our (JQ laser machine)software is Lasercut5.3.

It is easy to engrave granite with a laser machine. Advantages are high speed than other granite engraving machines, disadvantage is maybe the engraving thickness is very few.

jinqianglaser - we are speaking about absolutely different things. Greece and Lithuania are Orthodox countries and I can expect which jobs "minesweeper" want engrave on stone. Laser can not make this types of jobs - no doubt's.

If you want change 20w to 60w, laser tube, laser power, and maybe cooling system should be changed. And what is the machine sizes you want to diy? 60w is a very good power for both engraving and cutting.

look at this video,which is engraved on marble, laser is suitable when doing surface engraving .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lIVEJ0iHaY&feature=related

I am not a one month old engraver :) I am in this business since 1994. And I am sure that maximum depth of engraving with glass tube even 100 Wt will be not more than 0,1 mm in best case. If you want engrave on monument, you need AT LEAST 0,5 mm depth, otherwise during rain image will dissapear.
What I don't like in chinese sales - it's your desire ALWAYS said - My laser can do this:nono: nothing personal - just business

thanks very much! you are older than me in laser. When in 1994, i am just in primary school. hehehe

you may try http://www.rabbitlaser.com , i bought a small desktop one, good price and best customer service, they provide tech support from Dallas

you may try http://www.rabbitlaser.com , i bought a small desktop one, good price and best customer service, they provide tech support from Dallas

That sounds like a sales pitch if I ever heard one. I got the same system they sell, but for only $980 new on ebay with $200 shipping from California. I love it when I find an auction that no one has bid on!

Zre any of the EBay lasers worth buying?

Depends on your skills and budget. The cheap 40W CO2 is quite capable, but the unit will need some serious modifications structurally to accomodate your work piece if you are doing anything thicker than 1/4". (need to add your own Z depth adjustment and possibly cut the entire bottom out of the unit for large work pieces.)

I also found the MoshiDraw software to be crap, so I have started a conversion to Mach3.

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regards
Miss jin

Website:www.lcjf.com.cn
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Dear Miss Jin,
Thank's for your information but you have choose not right topic :(

Zre any of the EBay lasers worth buying?

There are some good deals for sure, is there a listing you are looking at and want advice on?

Zax.

there is a small company in holland that imports laser engravers and cnc routers from china.
he make's good prices for me with real good quality unit
as that guy said he is the new partner for europe

if it is aloud to place a email adres you can contact him
info@morntech-europe.com

I ordered for 5 weeks ago a 900x600 cm with 100 watt laser 30% off of adv.price and a real decent water chiller free to
600mm/sec max. moving da*n it is fast !!
already cutting and engraving things for a week or so
my two cents on this huge threat

atmel

Believe it or not this is not an ad. I haven't met this guy before or since but if you are in the UK and want to buy a CO2 laser it is well worth giving him a call. I contacted Chris at HPC Laser a few months ago as one of my Chinese machines needed a new tube (I broke it) and I wanted to learn how to fit it and line it up properly. Even though I didn't buy my machines from him he suggested taking the machine up to him which I did. The guy is a genious ! He fitted a new tube and got it working better than it ever has. I think I'll buy my next machine from him as some of the machines he has, from desktops to huge, look superb and the backup service he offers is second to none. Tel 01274 870772 http://hpclaser.co.uk/index.php?main...&products_id=8
To add my penneth to the Chinese Laser debate I had demos on several UK and USA lasers then went mad, took a risk and imported a 60 watt -600mm x 900mm Chinese laser cutter over 2 years ago for about one fifth of the price. It worked perfectly so I bought another one over a year ago and they are both working perfectly. I know a bit about electronics and did not find it too difficult to work out much of how they work. I don't suggest anyone with no knowledge of these machines opens the back as a belt from one of these or a laser beam in the eye could seriously spoil your day. I take safety extremely seriously but when you get instructions with a plug on how to wire it up you do sometimes wonder if you should get up in the morning ot tackle anything. All in all my attempt to buy one get one (or more like 4) free has been a great success. At Chris's prices you don't need to go through the hassle of importing machines and providing your own backup like I did. It really is as easy as his website says it is.

They have a new website that should be fully activated after 18:00 CET today at http://www.morntech-europe.com/
Best wishes
der Fisherman

We are laser engraving cutting machine manufacture in China.
www.wklaser.com

My MSN:gweikelaser@hotmail.com
e-mail:song@wklaser.com

Cici

Hi cnczone fellows, our mold making, injection molding services might interested you, please refer to http://www.artetooling.com

You site does not have any prices. That makes me very suspicious of how serious a company you really are.....
regards
Der Fisherman

der Fisherman - which site?

Sorry, the site I meant was www.wklaser.com. No price infos....

This is China :) Price is result of HEAVY negotiation:) First Chinese company who will employ western-style marketing/sales managers will kick out all competitors from market. But for last 5-10 years situation is still same :(

I already use a USB2serial (PL2303) with my PC because it doen't have serial port.

(gizmo was having trouble with lost characters in data stream sent to RS-232 laser engraver).

USB to serial converters have lousy flow control. The standard is deficient. The PC cannot instruct the converter to implement XON/XOFF and instead the PC has to do it. You might have better luck with RTS/CTS but with XON/XOFF it takes a while (around 1ms) for the XOFF character to get back to the PC, in the mean time the USB to serial dumps its buffer to the connected device which can overflow the device on the other side. Many embedded systems have small buffers and some also send XOFF to signal "I am distracted doing important stuff, don't bother me" and expect the data flow to stop when they send XOFF.

i think http://www.yorklaser.com can help you

i think http://www.yorklaser.com can help you


Klatoo barada nicto, Gort?

Klatoo barada nicto, Gort?

Hey Skip, did you you mean "Klaatu barada nikto" :bat:

Bob

Hey Skip, did you you mean "Klaatu barada nikto" :bat:

Bob

Yes, thank you for the correction Bob! :)

Hey, could you translate this into human language :) is it from Star Wars? Looks like something BAD :(

Hey, could you translate this into human language :) is it from Star Wars? Looks like something BAD :(

No, it's not anything bad.... lol It's actually a quote from the 1951 sci-fi movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" . It's a cult classic here in the US. My avatar is Gort, Klaatu's companion robot, who is one badass machine.

Sorry for the confusion.... you should watch the movie if you can find it somewhere. It's classic Sci-fi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaatu_%28The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaatu_%28The_Day_the_Earth_Stood_Still%29)

Sorry for the off topic post. My bad.

Check to see where the laser origin setting is. If it is not set to start at 0,0 then you may have to make manual changes to the start position. You may also have to modify where you want 0,0 to be. The machine will allow itself to run to the end of the track and could possibly damage the motors.


I also purchased a machine from Ink Express. The after sales service is next to non existant. Intimidation and threats (not profanity) worked well for me.
I have a cd that has setup files for the dog. I can send you these if they will help you. I am using DSP 4.0 and the dog is required.

I also have a question:
My wife uses Corel X3 and autocad to generate her graphics. When imported by Easycut DSP 4.0, it opens the drawing outside the worktable and halfway up on the left, never at 0,0 (lower left corner) as saved.
Does anyone know a solution to this? What are we doing wrong?
We are both new to this laser engraving.

Email me directly if you want to try the dog software I have?

Albert

Hi, everybody
We bought a laser from China - rabbit 6090se 60w. It arrived few days ago, but there is no cooling machine inside ? Does any body had that problem ? And how about water pomp ? It is so weak, that firstly you have to pull water with your mouth to start pomping. Also it makes bubbles, so what to do ? Please help
:confused:

I have advice you :)

Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue with Chinese machines and the quality of the air or water pumps. The best thing to do is to buy some of the rack at your local stores. They don't typically require specific makes and models. I'm not sure what you mean by cooling machine. My 60 watt laser from Ink Express is water cooled and has air for keeping smoke and debris away from the focusing lens. On my machine I had to change the plug on the main power cord to an american 120V plug w/ ground, it came with a European style plug for 220V. Also had to get a quieter air pump, I use an air pump from my old 50 gallon aquarium. The water pump works fine but the fittings broke and I had to make my own that seem to work better. All these are bumps in the road and I suspect that for years to come that will be the norm with Chinese machines until their quality control reaches the same level as the American made machines. But for the price you can't beat the established Chinese machines. Just be ready to have limited customer support and software limitations. I would definitely like to find a group of Ink Express machine owners and see if we could come up with some software solutions to run straight from Corel or Adobe and other CAD programs. That is my main issue is the software limits of the Chinese machines. If they ever overcome that issue, look out American makers. We are all patriots but we have to do what is best for the bottom line. :rainfro:


Hi, everybody
We bought a laser from China - rabbit 6090se 60w. It arrived few days ago, but there is no cooling machine inside ? Does any body had that problem ? And how about water pomp ? It is so weak, that firstly you have to pull water with your mouth to start pomping. Also it makes bubbles, so what to do ? Please help
:confused:

Maybe the water supply needs to be above the laser, so that gravity helps to prime the pump.
If its blowing bubbles continuosly, then you probably have an air leak between the suppy of water and the pump.....putting the water supply above the pump may show you exactly where this leak is with water drops forming at the leak, once the line is primed, but the pump is off.
This makes me think that the quality of what you have bought is very suspect, please publish full details and pictures here as you progress, so that others may be forewarned.
Many thanks in advance from us all.
(We are a really "Nosey" bunch!!)
Best regards

I made some change to work with my rabit laser 6090.

Picture 01 and 02, chiller made in Uruguay
Picture 03 - container with air pump to give constant air flow
Picture 04 - switches to on - off (air punp, exaust fan and water pump)

I've just acquired a Rabbit Hx40A and, with the distilled water flowing, I can fire the laser into and through a 1/8" piece of plywood. Hooking up a computer with a CorelDRAW graphic output results in nothing. I gather I need some sort of software and/or driver to make the machine function. The guy i bought it from didn't know if it works. Any thoughts, references to downloadable drivers or setup instructions would be most welcome.
Thanks and have a good weekend,
John

The machine comes with a program which already has the settings for this machine. Also has a watchdog that is connected to the USB port. This program when you install adds some icons in corel making it work with the program. The software have a problem, if the file have a lot off text it´s necesary convert the file to AI and import whith the program directly

Eduardo
Montevideo - Uruguay
(si alguien habla español y quiere comunicarse escribame a edecar@hotmail.com)

Thanks, Eduardo. I bought the machine from a young fellow whose father was in the business and had 4 that were/are used and, possibly, defective. There was no software or dongle with them. Guess I bought a problem. Live and learn.
John

Thanks, Eduardo. I bought the machine from a young fellow whose father was in the business and had 4 that were/are used and, possibly, defective. There was no software or dongle with them. Guess I bought a problem. Live and learn.
John

Hi John. Ask to zax15uk ( a member here ) for a help. I think he will help you with this problem.
Norberto

Hello Norberto,
Thanks for the suggestion; I've had some helpful conversation with zax on this forum. Yesterday I spoke with the Rabbit brand company representative located in Dallas, Frank Fang, and I arranged to buy a copy of the software from China. After it arrives I'll be looking at getting connected through a USB port on my laptop and maybe then i'll be operational.

Hi John,
As HX40A is not DSP control system, so software is Newlydraw only, it can not compatible CorelDraw, Photoshop, AutoCAD and other software.

You can connect the HX company, let them give you a Newlydraw software.

Only DSP control system can compatible Coreldraw, Photoshop, autoCAD and other system, this DSP control system values about $500-600, so common single machine do not have this system.

Cici
www.wklaser.com



"I've just acquired a Rabbit Hx40A and, with the distilled water flowing, I can fire the laser into and through a 1/8" piece of plywood. Hooking up a computer with results in a CorelDRAW graphic output nothing. I gather I need some sort of software and/or driver to make the machine function. The guy i bought it from didn't know if it works. Any thoughts, references to downloadable drivers or setup instructions would be most welcome.
Thanks and have a good weekend,"
John

Hello Cici,
Thank you for that valuable information! Please contact me directly as I have some questions about an LG500 machine.
John.Lea@asu.edu
Thank you,
John

I'm not trying to knock your work, but don't you think that radiator and pump are a bit of overkill? I have a 40W laser and about 1 gallon of water in the bucket and I never feel the water get warm. I do want to clean it up and eliminate the bucket of water, so I'm tempted to replace it with a closed loop CPU water chiller. Geeks.com has a nice Aquagate cooler with heat exchanger, tubing, pump and flow alarm for under $30. A CPU can easily generate 200Watts of heat to be removed, so it should work.

Hi Roberto,
Your machine RS3040 , it has only a potentiometer for manual laser power adjustment and there is no Power controller with PWM to control the machine power from the software.

hi have a leetro 6515 and has the capabilities to control the laser output power using pwm or analog signal..
i have a small laser engraver, wich im changing the controller (moved from the one that uses MOSHIDRAW, to leetros 6515 controller)
i dont know how to hook up that part. THE MANUAL for the 6515 board is not soo good. it has the pinout, but im afraid to burn the board out..anyone tried this? any advice?

hi have a leetro 6515 and has the capabilities to control the laser output power using pwm or analog signal..
i have a small laser engraver, wich im changing the controller (moved from the one that uses MOSHIDRAW, to leetros 6515 controller)
i dont know how to hook up that part. THE MANUAL for the 6515 board is not soo good. it has the pinout, but im afraid to burn the board out..anyone tried this? any advice?

Can you take a photo of the leentros 6515 controllers to me,especially the pinout,I will show it to our technician to see how to help you. We are a maufacture in producig laser engraving machine.My email is kevinliutrade@gmail.com

Can you take a photo of the leentros 6515 controllers to me,especially the pinout,I will show it to our technician to see how to help you. We are a maufacture in producig laser engraving machine.My email is kevinliutrade@gmail.com

hi, i just sended you an email. thanks again.