View Full Version : Long hair: Cut, or proceed with caution?


SagaciousKJB
10-15-2005, 12:35 AM
Well, I'm currently enrolled in a machine tech course at a local trade school. My instructors have told me that wearing a cap and putting my hair in a pony-tail should be enough, but I just saw a very chilling video on Discovery channle where a woman working around machines had her hair pulled into a machine, ven while she was wearing a pony-tail.

I was just wondering what advice you people could offere me to as to whether or not I should cut my hair short.

Thanks.

Klox
10-15-2005, 02:28 AM
It's the safest, to wear your hair short. I have seen a couple of photos where a guy scalped himself due to the fact that his hair got caught by the spindle of a drill press.......
According to law (in South Africa) you must wear a hair net if you have long hair and are working in an evironment where there's a lot of moving machine parts.

CNCRob
10-15-2005, 06:56 AM
Well, I'm currently enrolled in a machine tech course at a local trade school. My instructors have told me that wearing a cap and putting my hair in a pony-tail should be enough, but I just saw a very chilling video on Discovery channle where a woman working around machines had her hair pulled into a machine, ven while she was wearing a pony-tail.

I was just wondering what advice you people could offere me to as to whether or not I should cut my hair short.

Thanks.


Was that the video where they had to put her scap back on. I think I might have seen that too.

Chris D
10-15-2005, 07:45 AM
Well, I'm currently enrolled in a machine tech course at a local trade school. My instructors have told me that wearing a cap and putting my hair in a pony-tail should be enough, but I just saw a very chilling video on Discovery channle where a woman working around machines had her hair pulled into a machine, ven while she was wearing a pony-tail.

I was just wondering what advice you people could offere me to as to whether or not I should cut my hair short.

Thanks.


There is nothing wrong with having long hair in a machine shop if you don't mind losing your scalp at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a neck-tie in a machine shop if you don't mind losing your head at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a necklace in the machine shop if you don't mind being chocked or having your head popped off

There is nothing wrong with wearing rings in a machine shop if you don't mind losing a finger at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a wrist watch in a machine shop if you don't mind losing a hand at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing long sleeve shirts in a machine shop if you don't mind losing and arm at some point

There is nothing wrong with day-dreaming in a machine shop if you don't mind being the subject of an emergency room operation at some point

In other words...

In the machine shop, short hair is required, no neck ties, arms are naked from the elbows down, and you will pay attention to what you are doing no matter how boring it gets! If there is the slightest chance it is dangerous, then it probably is - the machine shop provides plenty of "Slightest chances"!

Chris

psychomill
10-15-2005, 09:07 AM
Those are good ones Chris.... and it pretty much describes me with exception to the necktie and I do try to avoid 'daydreaming' while I'm at a machine.... :p

I myself have long hair. I've had it since I was just a little kid. It's just about down to my a$$. I wear rings, necklace, long sleeve shirts when its cold (even worse, rolled up on my forearm when it begins to get a bit warm), no watch but I do wear a copper bracelet for the joints.... :rolleyes:

OSHA sees me like this ... (chair) ......... :D

Anyway, I've been lucky enough to never have had an incident for 25 yrs and going..... In the early days, I'd have it back in a cap, or just in a pony tail. Then I'd tuck it in the back of my shirt. I haven't been doing that since the '80s though. Nowadays, I'll either have it in a ponytail or, for the most part, wear a cap with the hair pulled through the "opening" (where the adjusting band is), but loose, not tied through.

Back in the '80s, I watched a guy running a NC lathe get caught in one. He was an older guy with hair just as long as mine. He was a seasoned machinist, been doing it (at that point ) for 30 yrs or something. Anyway, he leaned over a part to get a close look while turning a real fine detail. His hair (pony tail) came around his shoulder and got caught in the part. He immediately grabbed his tail and hung on for dear life. A co-worker nearby got there and hit the e-stop. Unfortunately, the side of his face hit the part before (luckily) his tail literally tore apart. It didn't scalp him but this definately could have been a lot worse.

I'm not advocating that you should or could wear your hair long as I do.... Just understand that with it, you play certain amount risk with it. Pay attention for sure....

:cheers:

By the way, I work with mills, engine lathes, chuckers, punch press, brake, centerless grinders, HMC, VMC, VTL, welding equipment, lathes and more..... all with long hair...


:cheers:

JFettig
10-15-2005, 09:46 AM
wear it up in a bun and youll be ok;)

I have had long hair a few times, always felt quite the relief after cutting it really short :D


Jon

CNCRob
10-15-2005, 10:04 AM
There is nothing wrong with having long hair in a machine shop if you don't mind losing your scalp at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a neck-tie in a machine shop if you don't mind losing your head at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a necklace in the machine shop if you don't mind being chocked or having your head popped off

There is nothing wrong with wearing rings in a machine shop if you don't mind losing a finger at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing a wrist watch in a machine shop if you don't mind losing a hand at some point

There is nothing wrong with wearing long sleeve shirts in a machine shop if you don't mind losing and arm at some point

There is nothing wrong with day-dreaming in a machine shop if you don't mind being the subject of an emergency room operation at some point

In other words...

In the machine shop, short hair is required, no neck ties, arms are naked from the elbows down, and you will pay attention to what you are doing no matter how boring it gets! If there is the slightest chance it is dangerous, then it probably is - the machine shop provides plenty of "Slightest chances"!

Chris

Well done Chris

keithorr
10-15-2005, 01:47 PM
That's why god invented mullets. Business (and safety) in the front, party in the back.

SagaciousKJB
10-15-2005, 01:50 PM
Heh, wow. Hearing some of your stories certainly makes a good case for cutting it. I think I will cut it, at least while I'm still in training. I guess there's no sense endangering myself further around these machines when I'm still inexperienced with them. I just wish my long hair wasn't so important to me; but I guess my career choice, and the ability to even grow hair is more important.


And yes, CNCRob, that's the one I was talking about. Seeing that made me cringe.

psychomill
10-15-2005, 03:29 PM
All in all, that may be the wisest choice, even though that wasn't (or ever) the choice I made. You can always grow your hair back later (unless you lose it all before then... but then there is Rogain.... or a wig!! :D )

It's a little tougher to grow your head back! :rolleyes:

:cheers:

PaulH
10-16-2005, 06:01 PM
It's a little tougher to grow your head back!

Viagra? :idea: :D

Jay Kyle
10-16-2005, 06:25 PM
Well having had my sleeve caught on a part on a lathe, luckily no broken bones; and having my coat hanging out when leaning over the winch on the back of a CAT D4 and getting caught in it winding up, again lucky no broken bones; and other logging, chain saw and motorcycle close calls, I've had the fear put into me enough that shop safety starts to haunt me. Long hair is an accident waiting to happen. (oh yea, the ring thing, my dad knows a guy with a missing finger)... and they do happen, I'm sure everyone here know someone who has been hurt somehow in the workplace.

Jay

miljnor
10-16-2005, 06:35 PM
almost had the finger pulled off the other day with my wedding ring.. I usually take them off when working but been at a desk so long that I forgot because the fear had left me!

Dont let the fear leave you and you should be ok (should) its the fear that keeps you thinking! LONG LIVE THE FEAR!

bad video are good.

You don't want to be risking you life at work anyhow... Its better risking it at home! :D like skydiving and scuba and motorcycles, bmx, rock climbing ect...

:cheers:

doug6949
11-01-2005, 02:19 PM
The problem with pony tails is that the rubber band eventually breaks at the wrong moment. I saw a student get his head pulled into the feedscrew of a lathe in 1973. They got it stopped just as the hair started coming out.

Well, stupid is as stupid does. I forgot the incident and in 1975 had a rubber band break. My hair wrapped around the chuck of a cast zinc body drill motor which promptly slapped me upside the head. I cut my hair and keep it short to this day.

We had a girl with a big Farah Faucet hairdo lose half her scalp to a shop fan about twenty years ago.

FiXeL
12-28-2005, 08:51 AM
This is a older topic, but i should mention overalls witch have worn down cuffs... the loose treads can and will eventually be gripped by something. I was slapped arond a press drill spindle once because the shavings gripped the cuff of my overall. Lucky for me i only got a few bruses and a damn right good reality check... and a new overall.

arie kabaalstra
01-18-2007, 04:32 PM
i have my hair at shoulder length, on the shop floor i have some basic rules:
Pony-tail, this way, my hair can't fall further than next to my cheek, to put it in other words, if i ever do get caught, i'll already have lost my theeth..

first thing i do ( even before getting myself a cup of coffee ) is putting on my "Panzer-sneakers" safety shoes, and my safety glasses, when working with fully enclosed machines it's so easy to forget your glasses, when you deburr parts with a belt sander, of a pencilgrinder.

loose sleeves?.. not me!!.. i never ever wear my overall, just don't feel comfortable.. sweatshirts?.. No Way!.. always T-shirts,

as for my pants, i bought a pile of "Combat-trousers" at an army surplus Store, more pockets than jeans, and there's a cord in the bottom of the legs, so i can blouse my pants on top of my shoes, this way, i won't get stuck and trip, when stepping over parts or wooden pallets, seen that happen too much..

as far as breaking the rubberband in my hair is concerned, i always carry a "spare", and i change it when it's becoming frayed..

Oh.. and there's the wrist watch, on the shopfloor i wear a cheapo watch, with bracelet that will easily break IF i ever get caugt.. don't put hands in moving machines... just don't.. in the event that i have to (polishing parts in a Lathe, just take off my watch, there's a clock on the wall..

dertsap
01-19-2007, 03:41 AM
crap , if i had the hair i had in the 80 s ,somebody would have had to unravel me from a spindle by now ,
anything hanging from a guys body is a hazzard ,
i hate to were shop coats or coveralls because they are baggy or hanging ,
crap happens ,ive seen enough scars or missing fingers to be cautious of my safety as well as others

ajl6549
02-10-2007, 09:10 AM
All in all, that may be the wisest choice, even though that wasn't (or ever) the choice I made. You can always grow your hair back later (unless you lose it all before then... but then there is Rogain.... or a wig!! :D )

It's a little tougher to grow your head back! :rolleyes:

:cheers:

Or you can...shave it right to the skin! thats what I do. It does take some getting used to though, I used to bump my head on stuff a lot at first. It's suprising how much you can feel with the hair on your head. Another thing was the rain, ever look straight up at a cold steady rain? It feels the same on a bald head as it dose on a bald face.:rainfro: (not)

jackson
02-10-2007, 09:38 AM
I saw a guy running a manual lathe get his hair caught and completely rap him up in the spindal not pretty

ajl6549
02-10-2007, 09:45 AM
I saw a guy, running a large floor type boring mill, step in btwn the work and the spindle, large distance btwn them, while the spindle was rotating at about 50 rpm then back up into it, he was wareing bib overalls. It caught him, spun him around, and spat out on the floor with just scrapes etc. He was lucky.

jackson
02-10-2007, 10:00 AM
Yeah the guy i saw had a broke arm and lots of scrapes the parametics had to remove him from the lathe and all he was worried about was the pipe in his pocket that i am assuming was of the illegal sort (dip sh*t) never was him again

ajl6549
02-10-2007, 10:19 AM
On the very first CNC I ever ran the guy who ran it on 3rd shift got his head caught in the ATC and was trapped that way for 4 hours. Changing parts while the machine was in auto cycle.

jackson
02-12-2007, 08:07 AM
On the very first CNC I ever ran the guy who ran it on 3rd shift got his head caught in the ATC and was trapped that way for 4 hours. Changing parts while the machine was in auto cycle.

Now that would suck!!!

youngjim
06-01-2008, 07:51 PM
At the risk of resuscitating a cold thread, if you want to know how to put your hair up well & truly out of the way, ask any woman who has been in a uniformed service (military, police etc.) They've got that figured out six ways to Sunday. Better to take a little flak from the guys for having your hair up than getting sucked into a spindle or something.

martinw
06-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Dear SagaciousKJB,

Try an experiment. Chop your hair off and see how you like it. After all, if you don't, it will grow back fast enough and you will have lost nothing. I did that, ehem, a while ago, and with it came a massive sense of liberation. Short hair is low, low maintenance, and you can spend the time you save tending the shorter version doing something more interesting.

Give it a try..

Best wishes,

Martin

dertsap
06-01-2008, 09:30 PM
want to know how to put your hair up well & truly out of the way, ask any woman who has been in a uniformed service
.

where i come from guys wouldn t dare put their hair up in a bun , the punishment would by far out weigh the benefits:D

martinw
06-01-2008, 09:43 PM
where i come from guys wouldn t dare put their hair up in a bun , the punishment would by far out weigh the benefits:D

LOL,

Thanks,
Best wishes,

Martin