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WayneHill
10-11-2005, 01:17 PM
Are there any EdgeCAM users out there?

helix77
10-29-2005, 03:56 AM
I Have Been Useng Edgecam For About 5 Years
Do You Have Any Questions

WayneHill
10-29-2005, 11:51 AM
Hi,

Our company has been using EC for about five years. I just started learning within the last six months. Looking for another user within this group to share ideas with. I am a member of the Yahoo EC group also. Not much chatter about EC anywhere on the Net.

We have V9.75. I am on an upward learning curve with the software. There is not much time for learning what the software can do verses getting programs out to the floor in time.

Looking to get a rotary post output smoothed out. Do you have any pointers?

Thanks you,

Wayne

helix77
10-31-2005, 12:12 AM
actually i am also in the process of creating a 4th axis post processor. it sounds like you are further along thn i am.
i am totaly self taught. i have had to figure out alot of things the real hard way... but now i know my way around the program (2.5-d mill)so well that my distributer was trying to get me to help with sales-- but i like makin chips to much!!!
what do you use for drawing(cad)?

WayneHill
10-31-2005, 12:35 AM
We are using the design portion of EdgeCAM.

helix77
11-02-2005, 12:19 AM
What Machine/4th Axis Are You Useing --im On A Haas And My Post Processor(work In Process)is For A Rotary Table

WayneHill
11-02-2005, 02:29 AM
4th axis HAAS, Cincinnati, and two Mazak mills with a 5th axis.

Scott_bob
11-02-2005, 03:22 PM
Anyone using the tool library? Do you like it?

R u using Strategy Manager?

Any other PCI (automation routines)?

(EC user of 8 years)

onecutwoody
11-02-2005, 04:08 PM
Hi I have also been working on a post processor for Haas vf`s all working well
Used everyday in producing part for Formula 1

precengineer
11-19-2005, 03:32 PM
Hi, just joined group, finding my way around. Based in UK using edgecam and solidworks with cincinatti acramatic 2100 control systems, working on 4th axis postprocessor looking for any tips

helix77
11-20-2005, 11:14 PM
i am trying to figure out stratagy manager ---is it beter than pci or vice versa.. does anyone have any pcis they might share!!!
any pointers on the stratagy manager or pci would be very very appreciated as i am self taught (we cant afford to go to a training deal)

admv4
01-19-2006, 11:52 AM
Happy to join.

admv4
01-19-2006, 12:07 PM
I have a question concerning EdgeCAM. I produce a file in Catia V4 and send to our toolroom to have an aluminum template made of a piece of glass. When I receive the template back it is always larger thatn the original file I sent, but nor consistantly large it varies. I send the same file to our CMM to have the template CMM'ed and the results show the same deviations. Does anyone have any thoughts on what the problem could be? I send the same file out to an outside toolmaker and the template I receive back is well within the limits I am expecting to see. We have had out Mill checked and calibrated but still I get the same results. I am thinking maybe some setup parameter in EdgeCAM.
Any and all help will be appreciated.
admv4

helix77
01-19-2006, 09:47 PM
What Type Of Deviation Are We Talking About .0001 Or .1....... In Any Case It Would Be Prudent To Dimension The Model Before Laying Down Toolpaths
And For That Matter Have Everyone Who Uses The Model Do The Same.
Edgecam (or Any Other Cam Software) Machines Whatever You Tell It To, Regardless Of Size, Or Deviations From Design Intent. If Your Post Produces Uniformly Diffrent Parts Then Check Your Model Or Anything Else Relevant To Its Scale ...but If You Are Having Deviations In Certain Areas There Is A Multitude Of Reasons Why Anything From Dull Tools To Running The Feedrates On Your Machine Too Fast.

admv4
01-20-2006, 11:20 AM
helix77
I am talking about the template being cut large anywhere from .1 to .6mm. This has not always been the case. We had an upgrade to V10 and had the mill cailbrated, it was cutting bad. Before the calibration the templates were cut small but now I am told it is good. Before the upgrade I used to send a Catia V4 file to the tool room, since the upgrade EdgeCAM drops some geometry from the Catia V4 file. Since this has started happening I now send a DXF file. I send the same file in IGES format to an outside vendor and the template I receive back is within .1mm all the way around. This template I have made here is made out of 1/8" aluminum, The vendor uses 1/4" to 1/2" aluminum and a better grade. The template is a profile of a piece of automotive glass such as a front door window flat. I was wondering if there is some sort of setup parameter that would cause this such as maybe tool diameter or maybe something to do with the units, mm verses inch. Or maybe the tool path itself not being setup right. I have taken the class for programming about 5 or so years ago but don't remember everything about it. I am not the person who programs or operates the mill, but because the file comes from me it appears to be my problem.
Thanks
admv4

helix77
01-20-2006, 09:31 PM
there are a whole host of things that could be wrong.. i doubt very much that edgecam would be giveing the wrong toolpath being that its so easy...and there is no one parameter that is going to help in edgecam (exept scaleing).
since you have recently changed the machine calibration you might start their.
-are you useing any type of cutter compensation on the machine?
-being that the material is so thin are you getting any type of chatter
-how fast are you feeding (the machines control might not be calculating fast enough if it is older)
- are you taking finish passes
-is your tool dull
-how are you programing (automated or manually calling tools and picing geometry)
-(once again) is your deviation uniform all the way around the part , or just in certain areas.
-if you run the exact same part with the exact same program is the part still the same
-i would have you email me your ppf but i dont have v10 yet
if you still have questions email me and ill give you my phone number(i talk alot faster than i type) pookerler@aol.com

smoregrava
01-27-2006, 02:26 AM
I think If the templates deviation vary within the part it's very strange. But If you have say 0.2 to large all the way around you template. I belive that the edgecam opperator is the man to blame. Maybe forgotten something like deleting the offset. Last offset used is default value here. (se picture) Or not updated diameter on tool. I have imported many IGES files and never had problems that the edgecam part deviate compared to the original IGES part. ( But I have exired that the result after machining deviate and unfortunately 99% of time I have my self to blame)

Have used edgecam last two years. Think it's a great program. Use Proengineer as CAD. And Use IGES from Proengineer to Edgecam. Have made post for Fagor 8055 and Emco F1P

Paul Goddard
02-13-2006, 11:11 AM
Hi can anyone tell me how to stop edgecam from ramping when using a rough surface operation? Also I don't seem to be able to edit the cutter paths inititial plung point.

Scott_bob
02-13-2006, 04:53 PM
Paul,

I don't know why you would want to but:

Paul Goddard
02-14-2006, 03:15 AM
Thanks for that.

I wanted to start the cutter outside the stock area, high feed down to depth and then start cutting.

CAMFUN
03-02-2006, 08:00 AM
Is there anyone here using Edge Cam in 5 axis machining. Is it good for that? What about the strategies? Does anyone here has programming Deckel MAho machines with it?

Thanks in advance.

Camfun

Paul Goddard
03-03-2006, 09:18 AM
Does anyone have an Edgecam post for a Heidenhain TNC360??

wisp
03-03-2006, 10:55 AM
Is there anyone here using Edge Cam in 5 axis machining. Is it good for that? What about the strategies? Does anyone here has programming Deckel MAho machines with it?

Thanks in advance.

Camfun


I use edgecam for 5 axis machining. Its great for indexing to a compound angle, and then machining a feature, but for 5 axis simultaneous machining, forget it. I have been complaining about the lack of 5 axis simultaneous support for 8 years. Finally, the next version is supposed to have some nice looking support for 5 axis simultaneous cycles.

Edgecams real power comes from programming simular features on other parts. I have many PCI's, [a macro file for edgecam] that program all the common features in the parts we run automatically. If i need a thread mill hole for example, i just click a pci, and then click where i want the hole, it gets the correct c-drill, drill, c-sink, threadmill, and programs it.

Paul Goddard
03-16-2006, 03:21 AM
Does anyone have an edgecam post, or post for a similar configured control, for a Centroid M400?

Scott_bob
03-22-2006, 05:21 PM
Post processer question:
I need to output a pallet load command before each tool start up (see below)
Depending on wether G54 is used or G55
(G54 is always Pallet-A and G55 is for Pallet-B)

Example that does NOT work:
;CODE:%IF WORKGCODE=54 %THEN %GOTO @LOAD-A
;CODE:%IF WORKGCODE=55 %THEN %GOTO @LOAD-B
;CODE:@LOAD-A
[BLKNUM]M32 (LOAD PALLET-A)
;CODE:%GOTO @DONE
;CODE:@LOAD-B
[BLKNUM]M33 (LOAD PALLET-B)
;CODE:@DONE
[BLKNUM][RAPIDGCODE]G17G40G80G90[<C>WORKGCODE][<C>XMOVE][<C>YMOVE][<C>SPEED][SPINDIR]
[BLKNUM]G43[ZINITIAL][LENGTHOFFSET][NEXTTOOL][COOLANT ON]

Anybody have EdgeCAM "Post processer" experience that can help me out?

Mike Mattera
03-31-2006, 11:56 PM
Glad to see another source for EdgeCAM chatter. I've also been on the Yahoo forum and there's not a lot of interaction. I'm selling Edgecam In Wisconsin (USA). I have extensive experience with Mastercam, but I'm fairly new to EdgeCAM. Started producing tome training videos for Edgecam. That helps me to learn the product better and document the program for others. Part of my business is producing training CD's. You might see some of my banner adds for "Tips For Manufacturing".

Looking forward to chatting with you all.

Mike Mattera

Paul Goddard
04-03-2006, 03:22 AM
Hi Mike,

I teach CAD/CAM using Edgecam to young (and not so young) engineers at college. My background has been with Mastercam so we're on similar paths.

All the best with your training.

Paul.
Herts. UK

smoregrava
04-03-2006, 03:49 AM
Hi folks. I use Edgecam on a 3 axis mil. I want to use a (90) anglehead with drills in bouth directions. How do I set up edgecam to deal with this. I will do horisontal drilling with this head. And I want to do a simulation that is correct. Anyone here used angleheads?

Mike Mattera
04-03-2006, 07:42 AM
Hello all there is a new forum just for Edgecam now.
http://www.cnczone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=309

Mike Mattera

Iowan
05-08-2006, 08:53 AM
I also have extensive knowledge of Mastercam but I am switching to Edgecam in a couple weeks. Did you find the transition easy or would it be wise to take a training course?

WayneHill
05-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Iowan,

My experience was from SmartCAM and GeoCAM. I took a training class on EdgeCAM. It helped a lot. EdgeCAM is a different style of CAM programming.

Davyboy
05-11-2006, 08:12 PM
Hi i live in Pewaukee WI & have been using edgecam since 1998........i am using version 10.5 now.......David

Davyboy
05-11-2006, 08:14 PM
david from Pewaukee used edgecam now since 1998

swarfmaker
05-12-2006, 09:07 PM
Good Evening to all,
Been using edgecam since the days of pams with 2 screens (probably about early 90's) things have come along way since then, but sometimes you do get the feeling the software boys actually need an 'hands on' cnc engineer to sit by them.

ericboy
10-22-2006, 03:56 PM
yes hello i work with edgecam

slimon88
11-07-2007, 06:21 AM
Hi there,
I am having problems generating a tool path that will mill out a bowl shape. Once the concentric milling cycles get towards the middle it throws up an extra ridge which isnt on the model. I have run these tool paths over and over in the past and havent had any problems, but recently i have reinstalled Edgecam on a newer PC. Im wondering if I have in fact failed to set the program up correctly.
If anyone has any ideas i would be very greatful.

regards Simon

helix77
11-10-2007, 01:22 AM
post a screen shot.... what cycle are you useing

MIKE JEFFERS
11-14-2007, 07:18 AM
in my experience it "just" does that
how ever a paralell lace as a finish will help

mike

smoregrava
11-14-2007, 08:55 AM
Hi there,
I am having problems generating a tool path that will mill out a bowl shape. Once the concentric milling cycles get towards the middle it throws up an extra ridge which isnt on the model. I have run these tool paths over and over in the past and havent had any problems, but recently i have reinstalled Edgecam on a newer PC. Im wondering if I have in fact failed to set the program up correctly.
If anyone has any ideas i would be very greatful.

regards Simon

Maybe your depth are set to high. Together with a lead out with a radius it could create something like what you describe.

Ztiggi
02-05-2008, 08:56 AM
Been using edgecam for 5 years, and just started using it on a M-spindle lathe at my new workplace where I'm partial owner,

just bought a Haas VF3 Y/T-50 with rotary table wich i am also planning to use edgecam on.

if anybody wants to share their VF postprocessor with me it would be nice!