Finally update on :devious:
This is what is in now OS XP PRO

1. Thermaltake XASER, Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
2. Intel BOXD955XBKLKR Socket T (LGA 775) Intel 955X ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
3. Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 840 Smithfield 800MHz FSB 2 x 1MB L2 Cache LGA 775 Dual Core, EM64T Processor - Retail
4. Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
5. Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74.7GB 10,000 RPM 8MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
6. BFG Tech BFGR78256GTXOC Geforce 7800GTX 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
7. CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
8. LG Black 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model GDR-8163B - OEM
9. Thermaltake HARDCANO 13 8-color LCD multifunction display with Card Reader - Retail
10. Thermaltake W0057 PurePower ATX 12V 2.0 500W Power Supply 115/230 V CB, CE, FCC, UL, CUL, TUV - Retail


What is going to be put in when the parts come out.

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS

CORSAIR XMS2 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Unbuffered DDR2 675 (PC2 5400) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail

LG Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 4X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 5X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner - with light scribe

Zalman CNPS9500 LED: the Power of Air, the Efficiency of Water

What you think ?
;)

Go with 2 gigs of RAM, since you're spending a ton everywhere else. :)

Go with 2 gigs of RAM, since you're spending a ton everywhere else. :)

I am going to get another gig in the next buying of parts. :devious:

I probably should pay attention while reading. :)

I probably should pay attention while reading. :)

No problem moster system huh? (nuts) paying alot for this system.
been six mounths in the resarch and planing.

No problem moster system huh? (nuts) paying alot for this system.
been six mounths in the resarch and planing.

Nice, if you like Intel...and their "I can't beleive anyone will buy one!" Extreme Editions.

I prefer the better cost and performance with the AMD processors.

Don't mean to be too harsh. What do you plan on using this machine for?

EDIT: Judging by the video card, gaming? Sure you want Intel?

Nice, if you like Intel...and their "I can't beleive anyone will buy one!" Extreme Editions.

I prefer the better cost and performance with the AMD processors.

Don't mean to be too harsh. What do you plan on using this machine for?

EDIT: Judging by the video card, gaming? Sure you want Intel?


I think he will use it for playing games, and emails. :) Not even NASA uses such a robust system. What funny is that we have computers that are fast and no software that is developed yet that can benefit from it and tomorrow what we bought today is obsolete.

What funny is that we have computers that are fast and no software that is developed yet that can benefit from it

Try doing some photo realistic 3D rendering, or moving million + polygon models around on the screen. You can always use a faster computer for these types of applications.

Nice, if you like Intel...and their "I can't beleive anyone will buy one!" Extreme Editions.

I prefer the better cost and performance with the AMD processors.

Don't mean to be too harsh. What do you plan on using this machine for?

EDIT: Judging by the video card, gaming? Sure you want Intel?

Intel yes
I never used AMD not saying i would not but never had the chance to play with it, I might build a system for the Mrs using AMD in the future.

The Extreme Editions Duel Core is for testing of what?
Gaming :devious:
Graphics :wave:
Video editing (wedge)
Medical software tests that only certifies Intel chip sets not AMD. :eek:
Apps like this.

Intel yes
I never used AMD not saying i would not but never had the chance to play with it, I might build a system for the Mrs using AMD in the future.

The Extreme Editions Duel Core is for testing of what?
Gaming :devious:
Graphics :wave:
Video editing (wedge)
Medical software tests that only certifies Intel chip sets not AMD. :eek:
Apps like this.

The Extreme Edition is Intel's "numbers" chip. It was made to win a numbers war with AMD. They priced them so high because their yield is extremely low on them and they really don't want people to buy these chips in heavy numbers.

Basically, the AMD 64bit Dual-Cores out perform the higher-priced Intel chips in every benchmark, Video Editing used to be one section where AMD won out - but even that is no more. I won't even get into the fact that the Intel chips are disgusting when it comes to power usage and heat output compared to the AMDs...

The AMD 64bit Dual-Core Opterons win again (http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentium-xe-840/index.x?pg=5) , and again (http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentium-xe-840/index.x?pg=6) , and again (http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentium-xe-840/index.x?pg=7) , and again (http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentium-xe-840/index.x?pg=8) , and again (http://www.techreport.com/reviews/2005q2/pentium-xe-840/index.x?pg=9)

At the end of the day though, it is your money and your system - will be blazing fast no matter what.

Intel yes
I never used AMD not saying i would not but never had the chance to play with it, I might build a system for the Mrs using AMD in the future.

The Extreme Editions Duel Core is for testing of what?
Gaming :devious:
Graphics :wave:
Video editing (wedge)
Medical software tests that only certifies Intel chip sets not AMD. :eek:
Apps like this.
Why so much power.

I have some of my clients who want to have theses EPC systems.
Allot more people are getting into home video editing.
The software they are buying needs power from what I am reading off the boxes there are buying. And home entertainment systems they want as well. People have money to burn I will help them with that.

I think Apple is better for video editing but people are scared of the unknown with apple how to use so on.

So they are looking to have a power house like this, at the same time have a system that cane be upgrade to Longhorn or XP64 in time.

The system is going to be used for this kind of testing.
the will be 2 drives for 2 different OS one XP 32 bit One for XP64/longhorn.
Which I have the 64 bit software coming to me in my action pack.

So yes NASA does have theses kind of system in place all ready.

Except for the EE, the other Intel dual cores are priced much lower than AMD's, aren't they? Under $300. Not sure what the AMD's are.

The Extreme Edition is Intel's "numbers" chip. It was made to win a numbers war with AMD. They priced them so high because their yield is extremely low on them and they really don't want people to buy these chips in heavy numbers.

Basically, the AMD 64bit Dual-Cores out perform the higher-priced Intel chips in every benchmark, Video Editing used to be one section where AMD won out - but even that is no more. I won't even get into the fact that the Intel chips are disgusting when it comes to power usage and heat output compared to the AMDs...

At the end of the day though, it is your money and your system - will be blazing fast no matter what.
Yes the Duel core AMD is a better chip, I have done the resarch.
Plus the AMD rep has been a great help.
Like I said above, I can not use it in the Medicail feild I work in.

Except for the EE, the other Intel dual cores are priced much lower than AMD's, aren't they? Under $300. Not sure what the AMD's are.
You will get good pricing at New Egg
:D

Like I said above, I can not use it in the Medicail feild I work in.

Yeah, in my own dealings with them - the medical field tends to be way behind when it comes to computing. Which is strange, given how high-tech they can be in everything else...

Yeah, in my own dealings with them - the medical field tends to be way behind when it comes to computing. Which is strange, given how high-tech they can be in everything else...

I agree.
Intel and Dell give the stuff away for the programers to use there parts and not AMD.

And I really do not see anytime soon AMD breaking into the feild as INTEL has. :wave:

You will get good pricing at New Egg
:D

I've been looking there. I'm thinking about building a P4 820 or 830 with a 6800GT OC and a raptor. Pretty decent speed on a budget. :) Probably be my Christmas present.

Try doing some photo realistic 3D rendering, or moving million + polygon models around on the screen. You can always use a faster computer for these types of applications.


I do, and don't seam to have any problems using a 2.4 HT pent4 overclocked 10%. What is funny is that at work we have the "lastest" computers and for what I do on it, it's no fast than the one I have at home. People get so taken by the "speed" it's like buy a race car for going back and forth to work, yes it will do 200+ but you'll never get it past 80 on the highway and if you did you could handle the speed. If you're into playing games than yes you need the fast comp you can afford.

Try http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp as well, I most my stuff from them.

What software are you using, Paul?

What software are you using, Paul?

OS is windows XP
Alibra, pinnacle, Onecnc, Bobcad, foamworks, sheetcam, photoshop, golive, frontpage, meshcam, Rams and many more

I was talking high end rendering, with radiosity and caustics. Serious rendering time involved there. I use Lightwave, but also Max, Maya, etc. With those, like I said before, you can't have too much power.

With those, like I said before, you can't have too much power.

Yep I agree on that for those applications.

And I really do not see anytime soon AMD breaking into the feild as INTEL has. :wave:

Oh, now you're just trying to start a fight. (nuts)

AMD is firmly entrenched with gamers, and they are rapidly gaining the server market. I deal with HPQ, IBM and others on a daily basis - and they see demand from customers for Opteron based server increasing very quickly. Not everyone is blind to the price v. performance that the AMDs offer, and in the server market - power usage and heat characteristics are also very important - and AMD has the win in that arena.

When I do upgrade my machine, I'm going over to AMD, I have several friends running those chips and are finding the performance above Intel in many respects.

Oh, now you're just trying to start a fight. (nuts)

AMD is firmly entrenched with gamers, and they are rapidly gaining the server market. I deal with HPQ, IBM and others on a daily basis - and they see demand from customers for Opteron based server increasing very quickly. Not everyone is blind to the price v. performance that the AMDs offer, and in the server market - power usage and heat characteristics are also very important - and AMD has the win in that arena.


LOL :argue: :violin: LOL
Sorry had to take a shot. LOL :eek:

I do, and don't seam to have any problems using a 2.4 HT pent4 overclocked 10%.

hehe, I have a AMD XP2500 pre multiplier lock which is by default an 11X166 processor (1826 Mhz) running @ 12X220 (2640Mhz) water cooled. Been running like that for about 12 months. Ya gotta love AMD! That processor only cost me $65 from Newegg.com. Some of the old durons would fly like the wind, t-bred core and could have the cache enabled with a little surgery. They were in the $25-30 range. (nuts) to Intel. I have a P4 3.0 HT and it gets hot enough to step back in speed if pushed just a little bit.

I've been running a computer business for over 9 years now and I sell far more AMD cpu's than Intel ones. The AMD's have much better performance without having to overclock than Intel's. AMD's are also cheaper, since Intel prices for the Dell's and HP's of this world and doesn't really want to deal with the smaller "white box" builders like me.

I run a MaxNC 15CL with a 233mhz laptop and it does a great job. My MaxNC runs under DOS, so not having to fight all the Windows overhead gains me gobs of performance. If you are stuck with something that only runs under Windows, you are going to have to boost your computer horsepower because of all the O/S overhead. The next machine I'm setting up will have a 500mhz single board computer that I picked up as surplus that's in a very small (10" X 9" X 5") box with 3 extra ISA slots. Computer hardware is so cheap I don't recommend doing everything on one machine. Have your screamer for your gaming and video stuff, have something reasonable, cheap and reliable for your CNC. Watch the Classifieds, I'll be posting a lot of SBC's, ISA backplanes and other hardware in the next week or so.

Dave